*sigh*
statement is manifest untrue. is more than a little evidence o' collusion. oh, and collusion and conspiracy ain't synonymous, so don't go there. if this were a corporate collusion case, then maybe you bring up synonymous, but ain't.
as we have noted multiple times, the folks who understandably parrot barr summary 'o no collusion and no obstruction are making a terrible mistake.
Fed Judge: ‘Difficult to Reconcile’ Mueller Report with AG Barr’s Statements
knowing meeting with and encouraging a foreign power to provide dirt on a political rival is behaviours consistent with collusion, but mueller found insufficient for criminal conspiracy charge. find where in mueller report trump were cleared o' "collusion." we will wait.
too many people with a lewandowski understanding o' the mueller report, a problem which we actual sympathize with as report is ponderous and dense and legal technical.
no recommendation o' criminal conspiracy charges is different... and is the nightmare expressed by more than a few commentators after release o' mueller report. if trump, who mueller found to be unreliable and deceptive, were not subject to any kinda prosecution for his dealing with russia, then what happens in the future? with bar set so high for criminalization o' conspiracy, what stops a candidate from dealing with foreign powers to gain advantage over political rivals... other than conscience? as long as a candidate didn't active and repeated plan and coordinate with the foreign power, they is able to meet with and collude with russia or ukraine or whomever? is ok to let foreign power know you will meet with 'em to get dirt. is ok to meet and accept what you believe or hope is such dirt.
IF accusations 'bout trump and ukraine is true, which is not the immediate relevant issue btw, then is kinda bizarre, but believable. the stuff russians got prosecuted for and mueller kept trying to warn Congress 'bout to no avail is what trump did. day after end o' mueller investigation, trump active leverages US taxpayer monies appropriated by Congress in an effort to get a foreign power to investigate a political rival?
what?
and same day news breaks suggesting the subject o' whistleblower is trump and relates to using money to encourage a foreign leader to pursue an investigation o' a political rival, the doj makes a bizarre claim in fed court: the President, and by necessity anybody tangential related to the President or his business and/personal activities, is not subject to criminal process for as long as the President remains in office.
what?
btw, not prosecute is hardly same as prove a defendant didn't do that which he/she is accused. we mentioned the ben roethlisberger situation recent in the nfl thread. da in announcing no prosecution made as clear as possible his belief ben were a bad guy who did a terrible thing... which is what mueller tried to do in his report and even during his evasive testimony. one thing mueller did make clear, which nobody wanted to listen to or focus 'pon, not even democrats, were that the trump campaign were deceptive and irresponsible in their dealings with russians, and that mueller were much concerned 'bout how candidates would deal with foreign powers in future elections.
sadly, what trump no doubt learned from mueller situation is that he is functionally untouchable save by impeachment, which dem leadership has been reluctant to pursue.
oh, and 'cause am getting figurative hoarse from repeating, the biden stuff and ukraine calls and all the other guesses and demands for transcripts and whatnot is all freaking side issues. there is a credible and urgent whistleblower complaint which is being withheld by the dni 'cause o' urging from somebody not in dni chain of command. how is this fact quickly becoming tangential?
have heard people suggest the reason nixon left office were smoking gun evidence. that ain't history. after tapes were successful subpoenaed and made public, 'cause a President can't avoid all criminal process (duh,) only 1/3 o' americans were in favor o' continuing impeachment. reason nixon actual ended Presidency is his efforts to obstruct Congress. republicans final came to realization that nixon efforts to impede investigation and to undermine Congress were a breaking point beyond which they could not tolerate. Americans were angered by stonewalling more than they were bothered by the break-in.
nixon were a far better President than trump, and more successful, but his efforts to trample the Constitution were a bridge too far for Congress. thank goodness enough republicans shook off partisan politics to do what were right for the country.
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