Ganrich Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Gendry have same status as Jon now soo.. he is still posibility All who would confirm are dead though, those who can and are alive won't. He doesnt have to be confirmed as King on Iron Throne, but he still is last Baratheon, so he can be used as ally Another interesting fact is House Baratheon was started with Orys Baratheon. He was rumored to be the bastard brother of Aegon the Conqueror. He married the daughter of the last Durrandon who were also called the Storm Kings (who were the Lord's of Storm's End prior). It is possible that Gendry could reset House Baratheon by the story's end and have some symmetry. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I also thought that the North might well be permanently removed from southern Westeros by the Children (or Bran) completing their ancient ritual, and the Freys thus having a measure of revenge enacted against them when they died amid their crumbling towers. Shows how far from the authors imaginings I usually am. Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 I always thought from the way that the books were handling the character that Cersei would live a long life, broken, miserable, probably mad and a pariah to every individual in Westeros. I may be mistaken however. The books contain a clear prophecy (part of which made it to the show) of her having three children and all of them dying before she does, with a younger and more beautiful queen coming to cast her down - which now really seems to be Danaerys rather than Sansa or Margery, at least in the show - and her little brother eventually choking the life from her. No, wait, the little brother part is a bit murky because it states the little brother. So it could be anyone's little brother, but assuming it is going to be Jaime isn't really that far of a stretch, seeing how in the books he already abandoned her and he teleported back to King's Landing just in time to witness how much she resembles someone he already stabbed in the back. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 3 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 D&D apparently confirmed 15 episodes "at max" remaining.Honestly that seems a bit low. With that many remaining I wonder if the White Walkers won't win. "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Meh, the show is still good if you turn your brain off now and don't look for consistency, but outstripping the books has crippled the consistency. It isn't just the fast travel either, things like the Frey Pies, how does that entire sequence even work (see below)? To be frank, most of this season has felt like the showrunners trying to burn through pare down the cast list pretty arbitrarily and top the Red Wedding while shovelling people around with no thought to logic. We had the Martell Purge, the Bolton Purge*, the Frey Purge and the King's Landing Purge in a single season. Could add the Dothraki Purge as well, though they were at least wholly, er, disposable characters. If we do include them though then that's one purge every second episode. Without book comparison it's difficult to tell but I again suspect it's that non existent 5 year gap partly to blame, to be fair. The consistency problem is also best epitomised by the extended Frey Pies sequence. Arya is stabbed in the gut, recovers via will to life and penicillin tea (no wait, that's Arrow jumping the shark) does parkour, escapes and gets to the Freys probably via fast travel again, kills off Walder's offspring (presumably not all of them since there are like 32 or something, and at least one is a baby in the books) then butchers them and bakes the pies without anybody noticing plus uses a superpower that so far as we knew she didn't actually have and never learnt then serves pies to Walder at the one time we ever (?) see him alone in the entire series. The whole thing is done primarily to be 'cool' and 'edgy' fanservice, to be brutally frank I'd expect that from a rebellious14 year old's fanfiction or worse, a _chan parody. *least offensive, least 'lazy' and least purgey for the sake of it, though Ramsay was... not entirely credible as a character and the political situation in the north was grossly simplified. I hope Roose feeds Ramsay to his dogs in the books, he's a far more believable bad guy. I am now interested if Jamie finally realise his sister is mad b*tch and turn back on her, maybe join Jon He's the favourite to kill Cersei. But he's not going to join Jon- or Dany for that matter- and if he does the shark has not just been jumped, it's been hopped and skipped too. Leaving aside that he's a Lannister, had his demon spawn on the throne and had been boffing his sister he attacked Ned, killed lots of northmen and chucked Bran out a window, and murdered (ok, 'murdered') Dany's father. Fan favouritism seems to bestow magical powers in TV land, but not that magical. Jaime's endgame is either death or (my favoured bet) Nightswatch, possibly as LC. Latter would certainly have the required Dramatic Irony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 D&D apparently confirmed 15 episodes "at max" remaining. Honestly that seems a bit low. With that many remaining I wonder if the White Walkers won't win. They won't wrap anything up and in the last episode we'll find out it was a dream all along Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeliorin Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 (edited) Nah, in the last episode Dunc will somehow inexplicably end up king. (I'm kidding, of course. I've never seen the show, and only got about halfway through the first book before it made me start grabbing people by the collar, envisioning them as Martin, and shaking them while screaming "Pick a point of view and stick with it for more than 5 pages, goddammit!" I do like the Dunc and Egg stories, though.) Edited June 28, 2016 by Vaeliorin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I don't even know who that is ...as someone who has only seen the show and not read the books Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaeliorin Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I don't even know who that is ...as someone who has only seen the show and not read the books Martin wrote several short stories starring a knight named Duncan and Aegon Targaryen, but I don't know how exactly they relate time-wise to the main books/show. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ganrich Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 (edited) I don't even know who that is ...as someone who has only seen the show and not read the books Martin wrote several short stories starring a knight named Duncan and Aegon Targaryen, but I don't know how exactly they relate time-wise to the main books/show.It's about 70 years prior to Robert's rebellion. Dunc escorts Master Aemon and Brynden Rivers (the guy in the tree that was teaching Bran) to the wall in one iirc. Edit: Just looked it up to be sure, and it is around 90 years before the War of the Five Kings in the books/show. Robert's Rebellion was 15ish years prior which means Dunk and Egg's stories occurred a little more than 70 years prior. Edited June 29, 2016 by Ganrich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 I am now interested if Jamie finally realise his sister is mad b*tch and turn back on her, maybe join Jon He's the favourite to kill Cersei. But he's not going to join Jon- or Dany for that matter- and if he does the shark has not just been jumped, it's been hopped and skipped too. Leaving aside that he's a Lannister, had his demon spawn on the throne and had been boffing his sister he attacked Ned, killed lots of northmen and chucked Bran out a window, and murdered (ok, 'murdered') Dany's father. Fan favouritism seems to bestow magical powers in TV land, but not that magical. Jaime's endgame is either death or (my favoured bet) Nightswatch, possibly as LC. Latter would certainly have the required Dramatic Irony. Yeah Jamie in Nightwatch is what I meant by joining Jon. At this point everyone killed someone in someones family. What bothers me more is that noone told Jon or Sansa that it was Little Finger who actually 'killed' old Stark. If I recall it was not that secret I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 The consistency problem is also best epitomised by the extended Frey Pies sequence. Arya is stabbed in the gut, recovers via will to life and penicillin tea (no wait, that's Arrow jumping the shark) does parkour, escapes and gets to the Freys probably via fast travel again, kills off Walder's offspring (presumably not all of them since there are like 32 or something, and at least one is a baby in the books) then butchers them and bakes the pies without anybody noticing plus uses a superpower that so far as we knew she didn't actually have and never learnt then serves pies to Walder at the one time we ever (?) see him alone in the entire series. The whole thing is done primarily to be 'cool' and 'edgy' fanservice, to be brutally frank I'd expect that from a rebellious14 year old's fanfiction or worse, a _chan parody. I felt bad for poor Maisie, she's making the psycho face to convey some character every time she makes a kill, but people only notice how zomg badass Arya is. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Egg and Dunk would make for a great HBO miniseries after Game of Thrones is over. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Oh my hat the final episode was brilliant Cersei Lannister takes the cake as one of the most diabolical villians IMO, I cannot believe she massacred everyone in that Alchemists Wildfire attack !!! And the fate of that one women being left to the cruel sexual deprivations of the Mountain ( that must be a fate worse than death ) But Daenerys Stormborn ( my favorite female character ) is coming to reclaim her throne ....there will be a reckoning "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 The Dunk and Egg stories were recently collected into a really nice illustrated hardcover edition last year. Definitely recommend picking it up. https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Seven-Kingdoms-Song-Fire/dp/0345533488/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467293729&sr=1-1&keywords=knight+of+the+seven+kingdoms 2 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something? "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something? didnt get that as well I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 The Dunk and Egg stories were recently collected into a really nice illustrated hardcover edition last year. Definitely recommend picking it up. https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Seven-Kingdoms-Song-Fire/dp/0345533488/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467293729&sr=1-1&keywords=knight+of+the+seven+kingdoms Thanks for the info... I didn't know this existed. And in two days it will be waiting for me at the Covington Post Office. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 The Dunk and Egg stories were recently collected into a really nice illustrated hardcover edition last year. Definitely recommend picking it up. https://www.amazon.com/Knight-Seven-Kingdoms-Song-Fire/dp/0345533488/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1467293729&sr=1-1&keywords=knight+of+the+seven+kingdoms Thanks for the info... I didn't know this existed. And in two days it will be waiting for me at the Covington Post Office. Nice! Gary Gianni is a fantastic artist. His Conan work was really impressive, and he did a great job depicting Westeros. Now, if only Martin and his publishers can commission Justin Sweet to do the same for ASOIAF... "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something? Supposedly that's the implication but well.. he just kind of grabbed her hand or something and started squeezing really hard I guess? He's a zombie, what's he gonna do? Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 If he's a traditional zombie then eating her brains would be appropriate, I guess? But he's Zombie Gregor and it's GoT; you're pretty clearly meant to think he's going to do what Gregor's known for. At least it isn't as cheap a shock as many this season due to Gregor's history and nature being well established. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Yeah I totally got a rapey vibe during that scene, here's to zombie rape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVC Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Yeah I totally got a rapey vibe during that scene, here's to zombie rape! What exactly was the Mountain scene hinting at? Did he raped her or something? Yes he did rape her....and the rape would have lasted days But his character seems different to the books, in the TV series he seems to have more sentience after he is resurrected So he would be capable of an erection in the series making this punishment by Cersei particularly vile and repugnant "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longknife Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 WTF why are people thinking it was rape?He doesn't speak, he doesn't seem to feel, he doesn't seem to think much. He's some sort of zombie abomination now, Cersei just got done basically torturing her, and then Cersei walks out of the room, we IMMEDIATELY hear screams, and you guys discern the guy in big heavy armor with (seemingly) no brain to his name must be raping her rather than torturing her? wat "The Courier was the worst of all of them. The worst by far. When he died the first time, he must have met the devil, and then killed him." Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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