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[Azdeus]

1 hour ago, kanisatha said:

I had not heard this. Interesting.

Yes, but in that interview we're told Owlcat would prefer Pf 2e if they ever return to making Pathfinder games.

It could be that Paizo doesn't want to do buisiness with Ruzzians.

https://en.ain.ua/2023/12/07/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader-developers-are-calling-ukrainians-ethnic-slurs/

[Mamoulian War]

3 hours ago, Azdeus said:

It could be that Paizo doesn't want to do buisiness with Ruzzians.

https://en.ain.ua/2023/12/07/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader-developers-are-calling-ukrainians-ethnic-slurs/

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Scratching their games off my wishlist. For now…

[Azdeus]

28 minutes ago, Mamoulian War said:

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Scratching their games off my wishlist. For now…

I had a similar link for Space Marine 2, but it seems dead now ._.

[kanisatha]

19 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

Thank you for bringing this to my attention. Scratching their games off my wishlist. For now…

Yes, thank you, @Azdeus. And @Mamoulian War, I'm with you. I was already pretty angry with Owlcat over their throwing us RTwP fans under the bus, and how they've treated their KS backers who had paid for physical goods. But this is over the top.

[melkathi]

 

On 10/26/2024 at 6:08 PM, Azdeus said:

It could be that Paizo doesn't want to do buisiness with Ruzzians.

https://en.ain.ua/2023/12/07/warhammer-40000-rogue-trader-developers-are-calling-ukrainians-ethnic-slurs/

 

That article is quite badly written.

The publisher running that site also writes articles attacking Amnesty International. Ef him.

*roll eyes*

 

Mind, there are plenty of reasons to boycott most countries, including Russia. I scan all non-local products with a boycott app myself.

(and my cat eats Ukrainian cat food)

Edited October 27 by melkathi

[Azdeus]

2 hours ago, melkathi said:

 

 

That article is quite badly written.

The publisher running that site also writes articles attacking Amnesty International. Ef him.

*roll eyes*

 

Mind, there are plenty of reasons to boycott most countries, including Russia. I scan all non-local products with a boycott app myself.

(and my cat eats Ukrainian cat food)

It is, but I'm lazy and would rather not go posting individual tweets and so on themselves.

[Mamoulian War]

2 hours ago, melkathi said:

 

 

That article is quite badly written.

The publisher running that site also writes articles attacking Amnesty International. Ef him.

*roll eyes*

 

Mind, there are plenty of reasons to boycott most countries, including Russia. I scan all non-local products with a boycott app myself.

(and my cat eats Ukrainian cat food)

I do not want to turn this into political debate, but since 2022, there is really not much nice, that Ukrainian can say about Amnesty International, due to some of their reports about the war, which were really “sloppy” there has been a lot of debate about these reports in Way Off-Topic threads during that time as well.

[melkathi]

2 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

I do not want to turn this into political debate, but since 2022, there is really not much nice, that Ukrainian can say about Amnesty International, due to some of their reports about the war, which were really “sloppy” there has been a lot of debate about these reports in Way Off-Topic threads during that time as well.

I'll keep it short then. Since 2014 Ukraine has been obstructing NGO work. Basically they forbade Amnesty to investigate anything they didn't want them to. That is why every report out of Ukraine on any human rights matter since then is "sloppy". After the 2019 elections the new government had originally promised to fix that - part of an attempt to show their European allies that they had cleaned out far right nationalist elements from the government. They didn't fix it, realizing Europeans didn't actually care.

So spending 7 years sabotaging the work of NGOs to then come out and cry about "sloppy" reports?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

6 hours ago, melkathi said:

That article is quite badly written.

Given the rest of the site, it probably used ai.

On Owlcat, I've spent loads of time on both of their Pathfinder games but they definitely tend towards being played as a spreadsheet more than tactically. No idea if the 40k game showed any growth on that front, but based on their track record I think an Owlcat PF 2e game would be pretty much unplayable as that system is very sensitive to numerical bonuses and there just isn't a way to stack the ever loving **** out of your stats.

[Sarex]

The only issue I am having with OW games is that they hold no repeatability for me. I thought the different legends would keep things fresh but it really didn't hold me. Although maybe I was better off just going through the main story instead of doing all the side stuff again.

The 40k game is even worse on that front, or at least it was when it came out, but I still had fund running over the final boss.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

35 minutes ago, Sarex said:

The only issue I am having with OW games is that they hold no repeatability for me. I thought the different legends would keep things fresh but it really didn't hold me. Although maybe I was better off just going through the main story instead of doing all the side stuff again.

The 40k game is even worse on that front, or at least it was when it came out, but I still had fund running over the final boss.

I think that my two playthroughs, Azata and Trickster, were pretty much the same. I've heard that those two paths are some of the lightest on unique content but still there just wasn't too much to them beyond managing a new suite of abilities and the ending slides. Guess I'll see if Lich feels different when I finally get the time to play it.

[melkathi]

8 hours ago, PK htiw klaw eriF said:

Given the rest of the site, it probably used ai.

On Owlcat, I've spent loads of time on both of their Pathfinder games but they definitely tend towards being played as a spreadsheet more than tactically. No idea if the 40k game showed any growth on that front, but based on their track record I think an Owlcat PF 2e game would be pretty much unplayable as that system is very sensitive to numerical bonuses and there just isn't a way to stack the ever loving **** out of your stats.

 

I never played enough of the PF games to have an opinion, but in the 40K game what annoyed me was that they simply made all tests harder so you had to increase and increase the same skills. If in chapter 1 you needed to roll over 40 for a skill check where your character might have a value of 10-50, in later chapters that skill check would be 140, just to ensure your party never actually simply got good at that thing.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

6 hours ago, melkathi said:

 

I never played enough of the PF games to have an opinion, but in the 40K game what annoyed me was that they simply made all tests harder so you had to increase and increase the same skills. If in chapter 1 you needed to roll over 40 for a skill check where your character might have a value of 10-50, in later chapters that skill check would be 140, just to ensure your party never actually simply got good at that thing.

I haven't played the 40k game to know, but that sounds about right. In the Owlfinder games they assumed players would cheese the system, so they inflated stats based around that assumption which makes stuff like heavy armor Paladin have a lot more trouble than it would in pnp. It's not impossible to solve the numbers game but it makes the game feel more like you're managing a spreadsheet than fighting tactical battles. Compared to BG3 it's not near as fun for me, as BG3 managed to make a simpler (and often very janky) system feel much more tactical than WotR, which my last run was prebuffing and steamrolling.

[MrBrown]

tl;dr says it's his personal GotY

[marelooke]

2 hours ago, MrBrown said:

tl;dr says it's his personal GotY

Man, must be nice to have such low standards, at least, based on other long reviews I've seen it's just further into "offline MMO" territory from DA:I. If he's into that sort of thing, more power to him, I guess...

Edited October 28 by marelooke

[LadyCrimson]

Once again I have zero personal interest in the game but YT likes to toss these things into my "algorithm" so I see them sometimes. >.>
The review controversy is that they were very very picky re: review codes. Reviews are always grain of salt+confirmation bias, but maybe even moreso this time, for the early ones.

And if you want a counter for "best game evah" type reviews, here's SkillUp.  Sounds like this one is going to very divisive.
His point re: the face artstyle vs. the Shrek's Prince Charming (around 5 minutes in) made a lightbulb go off in my head. I knew there was something I didn't like about the chr/face artstyle but I couldn't put my finger on it. I did like Shrek film but the animation style wasn't why for that, either. Personal tastes and all.

 

Edited October 28 by LadyCrimson

[majestic]

Did Bioware turn everyone into transsexuals again? I mean that clearly was what made Inquisition bad. Male skull shapes on female characters.

You know what's hilarious though? Angry orange haired pick-me girls and blue haired anime character channels complaining about Veilguard make me want to preorder the Deluxe Edition. On the EA app. *clicks*

And done!

Probably not even going to play it. *snort*

[bugarup]

So because of some youtuber you wasted money that would have bought you lots and lots of beer on something you don't need or want? 

[Bartimaeus]

I feel like there's untapped potential for reverse ragebaiting people into buying your game by getting everyone mad at how stupid the people talking about the game are. For Veilguard, you've already got one side effectively covered, so now you just need to manufacture some SJW ("social justice woker", of course) getting upset about how the game is in fact really anti-LGBT and made only for incels and white men, and I think you'll probably have manipulated just about everyone who cares into buying your game.

[Wormerine]

18 hours ago, marelooke said:

Man, must be nice to have such low standards, at least, based on other long reviews I've seen it's just further into "offline MMO" territory from DA:I. If he's into that sort of thing, more power to him, I guess...

I like Mort content a lot, and find it informative, but to be fair it takes a lot for him to dislike a game. He just tends to avoid playing games that he knows he might not enjoy, sticks to a niche and IPs he enjoys to behind with. I generally find that whenever reviewer liked or disliked the game is an irrelevant bit - why they enjoyed/not enjoyed the game is of more interest to me.

Reviews though, do seem to be quite varied when it comes to scores, but the criticism seems consistant. While Mort might have liked the game, his 40 minutes video only reinforced my suspicion that it is not a game I would enjoy playing.

Edited October 29 by Wormerine

[melkathi]

1 hour ago, bugarup said:

So because of some youtuber you wasted money that would have bought you lots and lots of beer on something you don't need or want? 

Find me some LGBTQ+ or feminist beer and I'll buy it even though I am teetotal. 

But me buying it has to annoy the right people. Then it is money well spend

[majestic]

1 hour ago, melkathi said:

Find me some LGBTQ+ or feminist beer and I'll buy it even though I am teetotal. 

But me buying it has to annoy the right people. Then it is money well spend

You could buy some Bud Light after the incel backlash against it (with a lot of them hate buying the stuff to destroy it on video, which is what I think @Bartimaeus was getting at ), but that is hard to recommend doing so even to make a point. Buying a Bioware game might still get you a product that is somewhat good, particularily if you're like me and neither hated Andromeda nor Inquisition, but there's not much that Bud Light has going for it.

Well, maybe for a teetotaler it could be interesting, as it can't be really called beer.

[Hurlshort]

You can use Bud Light to roast chicken, or something. 

 

[Hawke64]

The Veilguard is available on Steam with only one layer of DRM this time and EA App is a rather unpleasant piece of software, so, unless there is some gotcha, Steam might be the better option.

Edited October 30 by Hawke64

[MrBrown]

20 hours ago, Wormerine said:

I like Mort content a lot, and find it informative, but to be fair it takes a lot for him to dislike a game. He just tends to avoid playing games that he knows he might not enjoy, sticks to a niche and IPs he enjoys to behind with. I generally find that whenever reviewer liked or disliked the game is an irrelevant bit - why they enjoyed/not enjoyed the game is of more interest to me.

Youtube, or internet in general, is full of content where people trash games or developers because that generates easy clicks. Seems like the only options are love or hate, with nothing in between.

So I'm all up for reviews where there conclusion is "it's kinda ok". And that seems to be the case with Mort mostly, which is why I was surprised he praised Veilguard so much.

Edited October 30 by MrBrown