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32 minutes ago, Gfted1 said:

Well, at least it'll come out. Bloody cult at this point

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9 minutes ago, Malcador said:

Well, at least it'll come out. Bloody cult at this point

I hope not, I've got a bet running that we'll see fusion before Star Citizen.

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Last year it was feature complete. Now they want to do more polishing for 2 years?? Bruh.

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19 minutes ago, Lexx said:

Last year it was feature complete. Now they want to do more polishing for 2 years?? Bruh.

Unfortunately it will be outdated by 2026 and they will need to rework the whole thing.

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4 hours ago, Wormerine said:

Hey, they added Henry Cavill to advertise their game in-game.

 

 

wonder what kind of paycheck celebrity are getting for these kind of work

heard the people making these game really want to make movie and get back into hollywood

seem more credible with each year

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At this point I find it kinda cringe if celebs show up in video games, tbh. 😄 Especially Star Citizen, which seems to want to collect them the same way Hideo Kojima does. 😄

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2 hours ago, Lexx said:

At this point I find it kinda cringe if celebs show up in video games, tbh. 😄 Especially Star Citizen, which seems to want to collect them the same way Hideo Kojima does. 😄

Yeah, I wonder how much money they get for their spots, and how that would develop into actual game development time. I find it ironic in how the Fallout games have Ron Pearlmans famous lines read out by him, but the TV show doesn't.

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4 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

work out pretty well for cyberpunk and death stranding

I am not sure if I would agree. Death Stranding maybe, as celebrity cameos kinda seem like that game's identity. In Cyberpunk I found both Keanu and Idris (as well as other minor youtubers I recognised) to be distracting. Idris less so as I thought he worked really well, but Keanu was just off - I don't know if it's him or how Johny was written/structured in the game.

Theoretically, I see nothing wrong - models have been used for quite some time, why not use recognisable models. Coming out from Alan Wake 2, while not exactly dealing with celebrities, they do use actors and recognisable faces in very interesting ways.

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15 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

work out pretty well for cyberpunk and death stranding

this trend not disappearing for a while

Difference is that not every character in Cyberpunk is some celeb.

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Problem with most celeb's in games (that I've seen) is that often their chr. in the game is transitory/not vital. It's just spot the star for 3 minutes. They  have a few appearances and speak a few lines each time. That isn't going to "sell" me a purchase.

If you're going to use a celeb in a game to try and sell the game, for me I want to see them playing a character long enough that I'm going to see them as that character. eg, the player character (Death Stranding) or other main/integral supporting plot character. Where I have an actual character to judge/play as/get attached to or something, just like in a movie/tv series. Not just a talking-head role.  I have a lot of fave actors/actresses, and am of the "movie star" generation where fondness for a specific star may influence my desire to see something,  but if I learn their role in a film is a glorified cameo of 2-5 minutes, I'm not going to bother watching the entire movie for only that alone, unless I'm really interested in the movie by itself. Same thing with games.

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Burt Reynolds worked well in saints row 3. But only because the game was so silly, throwing in a random celeb at a random moment fit the who ridiculous ride you were on playing the game.

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Hm? Celebrity casting in Star Citizen hardly seems out of place given the precedent set by Wing Commander 3/4 and Privateer 2.  In fact if only one game in the entire world did celebrity casting, it would be that game.

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2 minutes ago, kanisatha said:

I was rather surprised to hear here that (a) Owlcat is working on several (possibly as many as four) new cRPGs, and (b) none of them are Pathfinder games.

Wasn't it widely reported that their deal with the Pathfinder people fell through?

I remember reading that working with them (Paizo or whatever) was hard, but can't remember if that part was credible info.

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3 hours ago, kanisatha said:

I was rather surprised to hear here that (a) Owlcat is working on several (possibly as many as four) new cRPGs, and (b) none of them are Pathfinder games.

 

 

not really surprising

paizo is going full 2e

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2 hours ago, Bartimaeus said:

 

Tim Curry, the man, the myth, the Rocky Horror legend, can't avoid corpsing because their lines are so silly. 😄

Such a good game, RIP.

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On 10/22/2024 at 7:46 PM, Lexx said:

Last year it was feature complete. Now they want to do more polishing for 2 years?? Bruh.

Yeah, so they changed the whole flight system after that announcement and are still massively tweaking/balancing it. I do not for a moment believe Squadron 42 was actually feature complete last year.

In fact it almost seems CIG is turning quite desperate as they seem to have thrown out most of their ambitious plans for Star Citizen and appear to be settling for "first person EVE" (no "sov" though) with a slowed down "mode switching" flight system instead of the rather fluid system they had before, just so they can get something out of the door before we all die of old age (or, more likely, before they get into major trouble with their investors)

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14 hours ago, kanisatha said:

I was rather surprised to hear here that (a) Owlcat is working on several (possibly as many as four) new cRPGs, and (b) none of them are Pathfinder games.

 

If I understand it correctly, for most of these games, they are acting as publisher. Not all of them are made in-house.

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4 hours ago, Humanoid said:

Gah, you gave me a right old fright there in the context of Tim Curry. 😬

That's how I initially read it and I was like "he's not dead, why does everyone always think he's dead?", but then I realized Azdeus meant the C&C series.

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20 hours ago, MrBrown said:

Wasn't it widely reported that their deal with the Pathfinder people fell through?

I remember reading that working with them (Paizo or whatever) was hard, but can't remember if that part was credible info.

I had not heard this. Interesting.

16 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

not really surprising

paizo is going full 2e

Yes, but in that interview we're told Owlcat would prefer Pf 2e if they ever return to making Pathfinder games.

5 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

If I understand it correctly, for most of these games, they are acting as publisher. Not all of them are made in-house.

No, these are games they're making themselves. They even talk about how they're using (continuing to use) Unity for one game, but have switched to Unreal for the other games. There is one historical RPG that has already been revealed for which they're the publisher. But these games they're talking about here are all games that have yet to be revealed (though I suspect that the Unity game is the one the furthest along, and likely a sequel to Rogue Trader).

Also interesting was that they seem to confirm that none of these games are their own IP (even though they say they'd like to create their own IP). So these are all cRPGs using existing IPs. Maybe one of them is a D&D game?

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