Gromnir Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 err whats there to bomb in Afghanistan poppy fields? HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Malcador Posted March 22, 2018 Posted March 22, 2018 err whats there to bomb in AfghanistanRocks, into little rocks. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
injurai Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21. The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines. Thoughts? Seems weird to be coming down from a bank, on the other hand some banks give you a gun when opening an account. Policy-wise, I think it's fine. I'm all for tighter gun restrictions.
Guard Dog Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21. The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines. Thoughts? I'm fine with it. Citibank is free to operate as it pleases. If you don't like the restrictions Citibank places on you then you are free not to do business with them. There are other card providers that will write your store cards. I have not problem whatsoever with this kind of thing. If I owned a gun store and chose not to sell bump stocks that is all me. You don't like it? There are other gun stores. If You-Know-Who Sporting Goods chain decides not to sell AR-15s then good for them. If you want to buy and AR-15 go somewhere else. Kroger does not sell them either but I still shop there. You can choose what you sell, what you buy and who from. And that is how it should be. But once the goddamned government gets into it all the choice is gone, now it's force and compulsion and kicking down doors. 2 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Valsuelm Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21. The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines. Thoughts? My thought is the emperor took his clothes off and is mockingly flashing the world, laughing as most don't even know he's the emperor. "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist" It's increasingly looking like there may come a point that the devil can openly dance over the masses and they don't even realize who's dancing on them. When he doesn't even need to pretend anymore, the darkness that will fall will last centuries if not longer.
Guard Dog Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. injurai thinks its great. I'm indifferent, and Val thinks this moves us one step closer to the tyranny of moral busybodies. Or the subjugation of the word under the reign of Satan , depending on who literally you want to read his response. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Valsuelm Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 OK, I watched the video Val linked. That was actually pretty interesting stuff. Although I think the outrage was a little misdirected. In the example they discussed a "wealthy foreign investor" offers a candidate a deal too good to be true. A major campaign cash infusion for a sweetheart land deal after they are elected. The candidate agrees and the whole thing is on video because it was a set up. The implication that a set up such as this is unethical. Perhaps it is. But what definitely is unethical is a candidate being willing to take a bribe for a sweetheart land deal. A lot of angst was raised over the DNC e-mail leaks during the 2016 election here. But what a lot of people seemed to miss is that the only reason this was a thing is the people in the DNC behaved like a band of arrogant, self-righteous little s---s who insulted everyone not them. Even people who where mostly on their team. Had they conducted their business with even a modicum of the professionalism expected in the real business world there would have been nothing juicy to find. The problem with the collusion between CNN & the DNC to undermine Sanders isn't that it was exposed. The outrage should have been that it WAS happening to BE exposed. The problem isn't diffing up dirt and dirty secrets on political candidates. It's that there is dirt and dirty secrets to be dug up. If the politicians are unethical then how can you expect your government to be ethical. They (Cambridge Analytical) are not talking about making things up. Just exposing what is already there and targeting who gets exposed to what. The only difference between what is being done now as opposed to the past is the scale and sheer number of people you can reach. But in the end all of this depends on the target of the message believing the message. When they walk into a voting booth there is one one else in there but them. No Russians trolls, no Wikileaks, and no Cambridge Analytical). People will get the government they deserve. And the "the people" are a band of gullible fools that believe everything they are told or see on the internet then they don't deserve and ethical government. And they surely won't have one. As Abraham Lincoln once said "The problem with quotes found on the internet is that they are often not true". And I know he said that because I saw a picture of him with that quote on the internet. One last thought. The real root cause of this whole sorry mess is the dependence people have on their governments. They have become dependent on them for social welfare, health care, damn near everything required to live. That makes those governments big and powerful and that attracts the unethical types who abuse that power and the people under it. If you (as a people) resolve to take care of your own selves and families and not depend of the benefice of people in government who don't give a f--k about you anyway then you won't need the "all powerful state" f------g you over and getting filthy rich on your taxes. If you have a government so small you could drown in like a rat in a bucket of water you really don't need to ly awake worrying about who is running it. Just my $.02 I must say... that's a hell of an interesting interpretation of or was it another video I linked? I am far from tiring linking or watching this video. Germans, Mongols, Soviets, Disco, whatever you call those things they're wearing.... the dancing.... wooooooooo!! My deepest thanks to whoever posted this in the music thread a year or two back. I forget who you are.... but thank you!!
Guard Dog Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Sorry Val, I meant the one HD linked 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. injurai thinks its great. I'm indifferent, and Val thinks this moves us one step closer to the tyranny of moral busybodies. Or the subjugation of the word under the reign of Satan , depending on who literally you want to read his response. ... from a practical standpoint, the citicorp decision is akin to dunkin donuts announcing they will no longer allow bump stocks and expanded magazines to be sold at any o' their franchise locations. this is a whole lotta nothing. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
smjjames Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 How exactly would they enforce it anyway? Banks aren't usually in the business of telling their customers what they can or can't sell.
Elerond Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21. The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines. Thoughts? Seems weird to be coming down from a bank, on the other hand some banks give you a gun when opening an account. Policy-wise, I think it's fine. I'm all for tighter gun restrictions. Banks have put similar restrictions for example for porn and legal gambling quite lot. And sometimes they are just jerks and close accounts, without giving any reason or warning, for businesses involved in mentioned industries. Usually banks target industries that aren't seen favorably by society.
Elerond Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 How exactly would they enforce it anyway? Banks aren't usually in the business of telling their customers what they can or can't sell. They will most likely just close company's accounts and cancel all the store credit cards that they have issued to company's customers, which will cause quite lot problems for the company
Gromnir Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) How exactly would they enforce it anyway? Banks aren't usually in the business of telling their customers what they can or can't sell. is not restricting purchasers from buying bumpstocks and expanded magazines. "Citigroup, the largest issuer of credit cards in the world, said its policy won’t stop cardholders in its consumer business from shopping at merchants of their choice." is restricting retailers from using their lending services. "The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday." this is a non story as citibank doesn't have any such entanglements with sellers o' bumpstocks and expanded magazines. HA! Good Fun! Edited March 23, 2018 by Gromnir "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
smjjames Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Citigroup Becomes First Major Bank to Restrict Some Gun Sales Citigroup Inc. plans to prohibit retailers that are customers of the bank from offering bump stocks or selling guns to people who haven’t passed a background check or are younger than 21. The bank is imposing the restrictions on companies that use it to issue store credit-cards or for lending and other services, according to a memo Thursday. The lender also barred the sale of high-capacity magazines. Thoughts? Seems weird to be coming down from a bank, on the other hand some banks give you a gun when opening an account. Policy-wise, I think it's fine. I'm all for tighter gun restrictions. Banks have put similar restrictions for example for porn and legal gambling quite lot. And sometimes they are just jerks and close accounts, without giving any reason or warning, for businesses involved in mentioned industries. Usually banks target industries that aren't seen favorably by society. Well yeah, theres legal concerns with porn and it'd be understandable why they wouldn't want to touch gambling. Outside of stuff seen as unfavorable by society, banks don't generally tell their customers what to sell or not sell. Speaking of industries not seen favorably by society, does that mean the gun industry is now not seen favorably by society? There could arguably be a bandwagoning effect here or they're jumping in ahead of a big trend they see coming,
Guard Dog Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. injurai thinks its great. I'm indifferent, and Val thinks this moves us one step closer to the tyranny of moral busybodies. Or the subjugation of the word under the reign of Satan , depending on who literally you want to read his response. ... from a practical standpoint, the citicorp decision is akin to dunkin donuts announcing they will no longer allow bump stocks and expanded magazines to be sold at any o' their franchise locations. this is a whole lotta nothing. HA! Good Fun! I was trying to say the same thing subtly with the Kroger comment. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. injurai thinks its great. I'm indifferent, and Val thinks this moves us one step closer to the tyranny of moral busybodies. Or the subjugation of the word under the reign of Satan , depending on who literally you want to read his response. ... from a practical standpoint, the citicorp decision is akin to dunkin donuts announcing they will no longer allow bump stocks and expanded magazines to be sold at any o' their franchise locations. this is a whole lotta nothing. HA! Good Fun! I was trying to say the same thing subtly with the Kroger comment. yeah, am thinking folks is getting distracted by the headline. am not certain how many smaller retailers this change will impact, but it can't be many. do same thing with dolphin-safe fishing practices and people would laugh at the inanity o' such a move. as o' march 22, 2018, citibank won't make its lending services available to retailers who provide massive trawling nets... 'cause citibank weeps for the dolphins? whatever. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
ShadySands Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, three responses with three very different opinions. That's why I love this place Echo chambers are boring Free games updated 3/4/21
Hurlshort Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Wow, three responses with three very different opinions.That's why I love this place Echo chambers are boring I agree. Wait. :/ 4
Katphood Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Guys, any chance we will have a World War 3 on our hands soon? I'm really getting bored here. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Lexx Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Would sadden me a lot to see Teheran getting bombed to rubble. It'd be such a waste and stupid act. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Katphood Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 It would Saddam me, too. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
HoonDing Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 at this rate Cheney and Wolfowitz will return The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Bartimaeus Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 didn't Wolfowitz say he was voting for Hillary Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
BruceVC Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 (edited) https://www.delmarvanow.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/23/trump-exempts-some-allies-steel-aluminum-tariffs/451936002/ Chinese steel tariffs and now counter tariffs from China of about 3 billion, minor impact to USA but we should be concerned about a trade war between USA and China https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2018/mar/22/john-bolton-replacing-hr-mcmaster-trump-national-s/ And now Mcmaster is fired and Bolton is hired in his place ...I wonder what outcome Trump is expecting? Edited March 23, 2018 by BruceVC "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Malcador Posted March 23, 2018 Posted March 23, 2018 Would sadden me a lot to see Teheran getting bombed to rubble. It'd be such a waste and stupid act. Not entirely sure the US could do that. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
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