Arkan Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Huh? Last one I played was NWN2. "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Gorth Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I thought D&D was dead? “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
alanschu Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Speaking purely speculatively, but I'd probably put it up with licensing issues (i.e. it's hard to get, or has restrictions a game dev may not care for).
Arkan Posted February 4, 2014 Author Posted February 4, 2014 I thought D&D was dead? Is it? "Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger." - Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials "I have also been slowly coming to the realisation that knowledge and happiness are not necessarily coincident, and quite often mutually exclusive" - meta
Gorth Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I thought D&D was dead? Is it? Maybe it's just in a medically induced coma? On a more serious note, it does seem to have faded from general awareness. Either they are keeping very low profile or it has just been forgotten by the "masses". Not sure who their target audience is these days, but other than the Neverwinter Online MMO, I haven't noticed anything video game related for a long while. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
babaganoosh13 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I would assume that the bigger companies don't think it will be worth it anymore, considering the short period of time that they would get to sell their multi-million dollar game for before the contract would run out and revert back to Hasboro. I could be wrong. You see, ever since the whole Doritos Locos Tacos thing, Taco Bell thinks they can do whatever they want.
Humanoid Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Ironically at a time the PnP is said to be more videogamey than ever. Can't say I miss it because it's just a set of behind-the-scene numbers - I imagine the various settings would be somewhat hard to recognise given the changes in the meantime anyway. What would be modern FR game look like? Probably half the cities destroyed, a majority of the gods dead, stuff like that? L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G
Keyrock Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Maybe because developers and publishers have caught on to the fact that the D&D name isn't as glamorous as it used to be and that establishing their own IP is a potentially far more lucrative endeavor. 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Zoraptor Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Likely issues: 1) The big publishers have more control over their own IP and don't have to pay royalties for their own IP, so they're more likely to do their own IP or a safe/ lucrative licensed one (Star Wars) 2) The mid range publisher of the type that has traditionally published D&D games are an endangered species 3) Hasbro has been litigious with its previous two rights holders. They also managed to grant two exclusive licenses that weren't exclusive. 3a) There were issues with content control too 4) 4e was, it's fair to say, not received to universal acclaim 5) It's questionable whether the D&D name would be a net benefit at this point 6) Scale. AAA/ Console? Smaller scale? 6a) Who would fund it, would Hasbro accept a kickstarter? 7) Who would make it? In terms of established CRPG makers there aren't exactly a surfeit. I doubt there's a huge queue of people waiting at Hasbro's door. When it comes right down to it they haven't managed D&D well at either the computer game or P&P level the last few years. Edited February 4, 2014 by Zoraptor
Darkpriest Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I'd say it all comes down to mismanagement of the D&D trademark/franchise in the last couple of years. Then some larger publishers decided to try out new own IPs in RPG department and they worked out well, bringing more money to the IP owners. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a D&D based game because there is so many opportunities given the lore of that setting, but then again, who would try to touch it now?
Mamoulian War Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I was always thinking, it was more fault of how Atari was handling the license, than Hasbro being sue-happy. 1 Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Bester Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 NO. The reason no d&d games come out is because gamedev industry is about watching what others do and doing it yourself. Nobody does d&d? MUST BE UNPROFITABLE, LET'S NOT DO IT. IE Mod for Pillars of Eternity: link
Guard Dog Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Honestly I'd rather play a fantasy RPG that is an original IP rather than something that has been forced to conform to a specific (and old and stale) canon. Unless of course the Planescape setting could be revived. I'd sell body parts for a well done, modern Planescape game on the scale of the Elder Scrolls games. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Orogun01 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 They been trying to make a DnD game since 2013 but they decided to roll for it. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
babaganoosh13 Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 As I've said here a few times; Dark Sun is my favorite setting and I would love another one of those games done in the style of Shattered Lands/Wake of the Ravager. Planescape too (but at least in that regards, we have the next Torment game.) You see, ever since the whole Doritos Locos Tacos thing, Taco Bell thinks they can do whatever they want.
mkreku Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I'm so happy it's gone. Maybe now we'll be seeing more innovative game mechanics and interesting settings in our RPG's. Swedes, go to: Spel2, for the latest game reviews in swedish!
Enoch Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 (edited) Zor pretty much covered it. To the extent that the big publishers want to do a non-MMO RPG, they want a "rules-light" RPG like Skyrim or Mass Effect that plays well on consoles and has some potential to tap the CoD-Madden-FIFA audience. Ages ago, it made sense for a game like this to license the D&D nameplate (Dark Alliance), but the market for vidyagames has changed-- most of the people they want to be buying the game might not view a D&D logo as a selling point. Edited February 4, 2014 by Enoch 1
HoonDing Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 TDE is the new DnD. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Keyrock Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 TDE is the new DnD. It really kind of is. Just in the last 5 years or so: Drakensang, Drakensang: River of Time, Drakensang Online (Browser MMO), Chains of Satinav (PnC), Memoria (PnC), Demonicon, and Blackguards. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
HoonDing Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Drakensang Online has nothing to do with TDE, they just bought the name. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Keyrock Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 Oops. Shows how much I know about Drakensang Online, which is to say, almost nothing. RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Raithe Posted February 4, 2014 Posted February 4, 2014 I thought D&D was dead? Is it? Maybe it's just in a medically induced coma? On a more serious note, it does seem to have faded from general awareness. Either they are keeping very low profile or it has just been forgotten by the "masses". Not sure who their target audience is these days, but other than the Neverwinter Online MMO, I haven't noticed anything video game related for a long while. Well as I threw out on the Weird News thread, DnD just had it's 40th Anniversary. The trouble is they did the big push with 4th Edition a couple of years ago, and kind of turned it into Tabletop WoW. Pathfinder swept in and pretty much gathered up the hordes of fans who disliked that, and now the new "DnD Next" edition is about to come out to see if they can get the fans back. So I'm guessing while they're struggling with that, they aren't going to get too hooked into computer licensing. 1 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
AGX-17 Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 On a more serious note, it does seem to have faded from general awareness. Either they are keeping very low profile or it has just been forgotten by the "masses". No, you've got it backwards. You're vastly overestimating the reach and popularity of D&D and tabletop RPGs in general. D&D is the only one known to "the masses," and it's only known to "the masses" as a bar by which nerdiness is measured or as a verbal prop in a joke about nerds. The vast majority of the so-called masses to which you are referring have never played D&D in their lives, and almost certainly do not know anyone who has. 1
alanschu Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I'm not sure I can get any sort of accurate bearing on what Gorth's estimate is of the reach and popularity of D&D, especially given that the word "masses" was in quotes.
ShadySands Posted February 6, 2014 Posted February 6, 2014 I thought some of the changes they made when they went to 4th edition were to make it more vidya game friendly I don't have any reference for that though Free games updated 3/4/21
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