The US Election 2016, Part VII

[Malcador]

So how is Western Civilization dying?

 

For some it's too many uppity coloured people, but I assume there's a proper reason.

[Guard Dog]

Interesting assessment. I seriously doubt it will happen but... http://www.smobserved.com/story/2016/09/10/politics/donald-trump-will-not-debate-hillary-if-gary-johnson-not-allowed-to-participate/1894.html

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/

 

Guys this link highlights again reasons I am always amazed people people would want to support Trump

 

Trump has for the last 5 years questioned if Obama was born in the USA, he constantly has supported a view that Obama isnt an American citizen. It was a disgraceful and malicious campaign and had a racist undertone to delegitimize Obama as the first African American president

 

He has now admitted Obama was born in the USA No candidate has flip-flopped as much on policy and comments as Trump. He is inconsistent on so many topics like his economic policy and the fact he wont release his tax returns

 

And some people still think he is best candidate to be the next US president

Interesting that you omitted that the media was taken for a ruse to show how incompetent they are and how they now have to admit the following instead:

 

Please do a little research before saying " Hilary started the Birther Obama controversy "

 

Its has been debunked many times now, Hilary Clinton did not start this malicious rumour

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/16/no-hillary-clinton-did-not-start-birther-movement/90500762/

Bill Clinton, is that you?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYnl6GMOBIA

Kate Bolduan is a very astute political commentator, she has the daily show on CNN " State of the Race " and yes the various CNN commentators are right. Trump not only wasted peoples time but he horribly flip flopped on this issue

 

This is something we should all be condemning as it shows how Trump uses the media when it suits him but then whines about " the media is biased and has horrible people working for it " when the " media " doesn't comment on what he likes

Why should we be condemning him for using something that is against him and benefiting from it doing what it thinks it should be doing? Normally we praise people for that.

 

So what is it then as I am confused? Is the media as many people on this forum suggest biased against  Trump

 

Or is the media not biased when Trump decides to use them? Because as I keep saying the media is not fundamentally biased, the media reports on what candidates do and what they say 

[Volourn]

"Is there an echo in here?"

 

You were clearly implying I was some anti left nutbar who only attack left wingers. I don't attack any 'wingers'. I attack those who try to tell me what to do no matter wat 'side' they are on.

 

 

 "Volo, GD is 100 % correct, you should ask yourself some  questions " what is a place like these forums? Why do we frequent these forums and what do we want or expect form these forums " 

 

Don't pout. I never claimed I didn't learn anything or see others perspectvies here. I even pointed out someone who did show me a different perspective. Don't be mad that it wasn't you.

 

 

 

"He has now admitted Obama was born in the USA     No candidate has flip-flopped as much on policy and comments as Trump. He is inconsistent on so many topics like his economic policy and the fact he wont release his tax returns "

 

Wait. he gives you what you want and admits he was mistaken and you stiull feel the need to attack him for it. Admitting when you are wrong about something is the mature, reaosnable thing to do.

 

 

"Also we're not gonna be overly diverse with ideas given this forum seemingly scares off anyone with two X chromosomes. Kinda difficult to hit diverse ideas when 50% of the population is immediately off the table."

 

Why would I scare women off when I treat everyone equally? Are you sos exist you think women are weak and need to be babvy and cna't handle disagreements oin the net? COME ON. Unlike you, I see women as strong, independent adults who can take care of themselves. Alkso, here's a nerwsflash, not all women and men think alike. Stop living in stereotypes, sexism, and prejudice.

 

 

"For some it's too many uppity coloured people, but I assume there's a proper reason"

 

White people. White people are the issue. And, Im seriously about that. Wgite people like Hiullary Clinton and Bruce are the issue. Whitye people like Donald Trump are an issue. White people like Gary Johnson is an issue.

Edited September 17, 2016 by Volourn

[Hurlshort]

"Is there an echo in here?"

 

You were clearly implying I was some anti left nutbar who only attack left wingers. I don't attack any 'wingers'. I attack those who try to tell me what to do no matter wat 'side' they are on.

 

 

Don't lie.  I just said you like to throw the nazi label on people you think are sjw's.

[Volourn]

Donhj't stetch the truth. Youw ere clearly claiming that it was only left wingers/SJWs that I attack and call nazis. Agaian, I call anyone who wants to enslave and control me nazis.  I'm not part of some anti LW conspiracy like you try to imply. L0L

Edited September 17, 2016 by Volourn

[Bokishi]

"And what exactly happens if we stop crying about it?"

 

What happens when we don't stop? BLM patrolling the streets, threatening to "beat up whites", after a black cop shoots a black suspect, is going to end racial tensions? I had a few friends fearing for their lives that day.

[Meshugger]

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/

 

Guys this link highlights again reasons I am always amazed people people would want to support Trump

 

Trump has for the last 5 years questioned if Obama was born in the USA, he constantly has supported a view that Obama isnt an American citizen. It was a disgraceful and malicious campaign and had a racist undertone to delegitimize Obama as the first African American president

 

He has now admitted Obama was born in the USA No candidate has flip-flopped as much on policy and comments as Trump. He is inconsistent on so many topics like his economic policy and the fact he wont release his tax returns

 

And some people still think he is best candidate to be the next US president

Interesting that you omitted that the media was taken for a ruse to show how incompetent they are and how they now have to admit the following instead:

 

Please do a little research before saying " Hilary started the Birther Obama controversy "

 

Its has been debunked many times now, Hilary Clinton did not start this malicious rumour

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/16/no-hillary-clinton-did-not-start-birther-movement/90500762/

Bill Clinton, is that you?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYnl6GMOBIA

Kate Bolduan is a very astute political commentator, she has the daily show on CNN " State of the Race " and yes the various CNN commentators are right. Trump not only wasted peoples time but he horribly flip flopped on this issue

 

This is something we should all be condemning as it shows how Trump uses the media when it suits him but then whines about " the media is biased and has horrible people working for it " when the " media " doesn't comment on what he likes

Why should we be condemning him for using something that is against him and benefiting from it doing what it thinks it should be doing? Normally we praise people for that.

 

So what is it then as I am confused? Is the media as many people on this forum suggest biased against  Trump

 

Or is the media not biased when Trump decides to use them? Because as I keep saying the media is not fundamentally biased, the media reports on what candidates do and what they say 

 

 

Let me throw you an analogy on what is going on here. 

 

There's an old man of the greatest generation watching Jimi Hendrix playing the national anthem at Woodstock on the TV. The man is wondering what the hell that black guy is doing with the guitar? Why is he playing with his teeth? Why is he making such horrible noices while playing the anthem, and most of all: why is he making such a mockery of it? And what are the kids liking it even talking about?

 

The old man is you and Hendrix is Trump. 

Edited September 17, 2016 by Meshugger

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Let me throw you an analogy on what is going on here. 

 

There's an old man of the greatest generation watching Jimi Hendrix playing the national anthem at Woodstock on the TV. The man is wondering what the hell that black guy is doing with the guitar? Why is he playing with his teeth? Why is he making such horrible noices while playing the anthem, and most of all: why is he making such a mockery of it? And what are the kids liking it even talking about?

 

The old man is you and Hendrix is Trump. 

 

Your capacity for self-delusion never fails to amaze me.

[Pidesco]

Seems to me Meshugger is saying Trump is a prelude to Idiocracy or something.

[Wrath of Dagon]

The idea that Obola was born in Kenya was promulgated in 2008 by Hilzilla's hatchet man, Sid Blumenthal: http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/election/article102354777.html

 

Her campaign also circulated a photo of Obola in African garb, trying to spread the idea that he was a Muslim and un-American.

 

Edit: Dilbert's view: http://blog.dilbert.com/post/150449295541/when-reality-turned-inside-out

Edited September 17, 2016 by Wrath of Dagon

[Longknife]

Meshugger is obviously saying Trump's skills on the guitar are akin to a rockstar and when Trump gives his inaugaration speech it won't be a speech, but rather something like this:

 

 

Hillary on the other hand would only manage Mary Had a Little Lamb, which would immediately embarass us in front of our allies and tank our trade deals.

[Bokishi]

Hillary on the other hand would only manage Mary Had a Little Lamb, which would immediately embarass us in front of our allies and tank our trade deals.

 

And then she'll fall over 

[Longknife]

 

Hillary on the other hand would only manage Mary Had a Little Lamb, which would immediately embarass us in front of our allies and tank our trade deals.

 

And then she'll fall over 

 

 

Don't worry, it's just a mild case of dysentery!

[HoonDing]

de ploribus unum

[Zoraptor]

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

 

Hillary: "I am a banana"-- we at politifact rate this mostly true.

 

(Birther movement wasn't just started by some random democrats in Hillary's campaign, it was actively promoted by Sidney Blumenthal, perhaps Clinton's closest political confidante apart from Bill. That was the reason Obama vetoed Blumenthal having any official position while Hillary was SoS. He also promoted the 'closet muslim' theory which was promoted by Hillary in exactly the same way the birther movement was promoted by Trump- 'just asking questions' etc. It's another one of those technical answers from politifact, like Hillary being mostly banana, that is just utter crap from any practical standpoint. Hillary herself may not have started the birther movement, her campaign on the other hand definitely did and it was promoted by her closest confidants)

[Meshugger]

 

Let me throw you an analogy on what is going on here. 

 

There's an old man of the greatest generation watching Jimi Hendrix playing the national anthem at Woodstock on the TV. The man is wondering what the hell that black guy is doing with the guitar? Why is he playing with his teeth? Why is he making such horrible noices while playing the anthem, and most of all: why is he making such a mockery of it? And what are the kids liking it even talking about?

 

The old man is you and Hendrix is Trump. 

 

Your capacity for self-delusion never fails to amaze me.

 

 

 

Seems to me Meshugger is saying Trump is a prelude to Idiocracy or something.

 

I work outside the bounds of dialectical materialism.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

Seems to me Meshugger is saying Trump is a prelude to Idiocracy or something.

 

I work outside the bounds of dialectical materialism.

 

 

And rational thought.

 

(I kid, I kid.)

[quidproquo]

Ever wonder if you'd get on with The Donald okay one on one? Or HRC? Suspect that they're both much more personable, friendly, and entertaining in person than as candidates.

[redneckdevil]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/09/15/politics/donald-trump-obama-birther-united-states/

 

Guys this link highlights again reasons I am always amazed people people would want to support Trump

 

Trump has for the last 5 years questioned if Obama was born in the USA, he constantly has supported a view that Obama isnt an American citizen. It was a disgraceful and malicious campaign and had a racist undertone to delegitimize Obama as the first African American president

 

He has now admitted Obama was born in the USA No candidate has flip-flopped as much on policy and comments as Trump. He is inconsistent on so many topics like his economic policy and the fact he wont release his tax returns

 

And some people still think he is best candidate to be the next US president

Interesting that you omitted that the media was taken for a ruse to show how incompetent they are and how they now have to admit the following instead:

Please do a little research before saying " Hilary started the Birther Obama controversy "

 

Its has been debunked many times now, Hilary Clinton did not start this malicious rumour

 

 

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/23/donald-trump/hillary-clinton-obama-birther-fact-check/

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/onpolitics/2016/09/16/no-hillary-clinton-did-not-start-birther-movement/90500762/

Bill Clinton, is that you?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYnl6GMOBIA

Kate Bolduan is a very astute political commentator, she has the daily show on CNN " State of the Race " and yes the various CNN commentators are right. Trump not only wasted peoples time but he horribly flip flopped on this issue

 

This is something we should all be condemning as it shows how Trump uses the media when it suits him but then whines about " the media is biased and has horrible people working for it " when the " media " doesn't comment on what he likes

Why should we be condemning him for using something that is against him and benefiting from it doing what it thinks it should be doing? Normally we praise people for that.

So what is it then as I am confused? Is the media as many people on this forum suggest biased against Trump

 

Or is the media not biased when Trump decides to use them? Because as I keep saying the media is not fundamentally biased, the media reports on what candidates do and what they say

The media is very biased against Trump and so the media is doing what it believes is it job to dissuade voters from him and to Hillary, the only problem is is that with most things in this country it's no longer subtle about it and the way they are going on is outta touch with a lot of people. So trump is playing that angle and gaining a lot of voters from simply having the media against him being president.

Weither he make a good president or not aside, he's doing a good political move that makes it seem he has some what decent knowledge on how politics goes.

Tbh to me it seems most Americans know that to get to that spot, the person is not gonna be a saint and we know they are gonna be somewhat corrupted but it's gonna be kept under wraps. What we don't know won't hurt us type mentality as long as it's not hurting us financially or physically (mentally I believe we crave the abuse). With Trump it looks like he has problems but they are fixable problems and are visible but not really overbearing (we haven't really been pro immigration ever really so that doesn't bother as many citizens) whereas Hillary is been open and obvious because she's been doing a very piss poor job at covering it up and we are used to politicians who aren't good at keeping their dirty laundry out of the open tried and jailed and/or some sort of action that makes them lose some or all their political power/position and she's refusing that.

Edited September 18, 2016 by redneckdevil

[Barothmuk]

The media is very biased against Trump

Amusing how many people are saying this here because when you look to more liberal websites they will claim the opposite.

 

I.e. Complaints about how Clinton's health gets full coverage whereas Trump going to court for raping a child is barely touched on.

[Bokishi]

 

The media is very biased against Trump

Amusing how many people are saying this here because when you look to more liberal websites they will claim the opposite.

 

I.e. Complaints about how Clinton's health gets full coverage whereas Trump going to court for raping a child is barely touched on.

 

Well to be fair, the media dismissed Clinton's health issues as conspiracy, until she flat-out collapsed on camera. There is not yet a video of Trump raping a kid, but if there was...

[Volourn]

So.. Trump raped a child... Details please.

[licketysplit]

Explosion reported in NYC, possible IED. My guess is Islam.

[Bokishi]

Explosion reported in NYC, possible IED. My guess is Islam.

Another one here too http://www.nbc29.com/story/33121180/charlottesville-fd-investigating-explosion-on-downtown-mall

 

And a shooting in Minnesota http://kstp.com/news/st-cloud-police-crossroads-mall-report-shooting-stabbing/4267007/ 

Edited September 18, 2016 by Bokishi