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  1. It all depends on how the sign is adopted and interpreted by the population at large. If it's one guy with a sign, one time, it doesn't mean a whole lot, if neonazis start using a previously innocuous sign in a more systematic fashion then you have a problem.
  2. I know it's a problem because of these sorts of situations. I assume it's also a common symbol in sign language. But then there are these guys:
  3. It's more than understandable not to like it, and there's a bunch of contexts where the OK sign was(is?) widely and helpfully used. However, this is how language works. Meanings are defined and are changed by everyday usage. If you have a bunch of white supremacists actively using a previously innocuous symbol in order to "troll the libs", the meaning of that symbol may become indelibly associated with white supremacism. It should be interpreted as such if it is intended as such.
  4. The meaning of hand gestures changing is just a thing that happens. Just look at the Bellamy salute for an obvious example. The case of the OK hand sign turning into a white supremacist symbol is terrible. While it started out as a stupid 4chan joke, it eventually started being used by actual white supremacists unironically. It was used by some Trump supporters at the Capitol, for example, and by the Christchurch mosque shooter.
  5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_adoption_in_Europe While the situation is a lot better than some years ago, there is still a long way to go. As examples your own country doesn't permit adoption, and Hungary explicitly banned LGBT adoption just last month.
  6. Secular: "not connected with religious or spiritual matters." "of or relating to the worldly or temporal" "of or relating to worldly things or to things that are not regarded as religious, spiritual, or sacred" "not pertaining to or connected with religion" "concerned with nonreligious subjects." "not having any connection with religion"
  7. Trump was anything but an every man.
  8. Uh, that didn't answer my question and that's not what secular means.
  9. Care to specify which specific beliefs and opinions you might be referring to, religious or secular?
  10. https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/ Norway and Denmark have rather low numbers of cases per capita, compared to other European countries. Norway in particular has been doing exceptionally. Sweden is rather average, not good but not terrible, and this is compared to other countries who went all in on masks and lockdowns.
  11. No one really knows if it is a failure. It didn't "went". It's still ongoing and it's way too early to draw any encompassing conclusions. Europe is hitting a new spike right now due to the holidays and things will get worse before they get better. I guess there's one thing that can be said was a failure. Namely protecting the elderly in care homes at the start of the pandemic. It was terrible, and the Swedish authorities have admitted as much. Sweden right now is in process of setting up more restrictions, after passing a temporary law giving some emergency powers to the government.
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