Amentep Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 The first one had a relatively modest big budget ($60 million) and did ~$230 million worldwide. Over 60% of that was in foreign territories, but it was worth it for the producers involved to make a second one. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted August 11, 2016 Author Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if the general shift in Hollywood from very American-centric (where even Earth would generally always be shown with the North American continent facing outwards) to a more world centric view, has been due to the success of some brands abroad that had abysmal reception in the home market? Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if the general shift in Hollywood from very American-centric (where even Earth would generally always be shown with the North American continent facing outwards) to a more world centric view, has been due to the success of some brands abroad that had abysmal reception in the home market? I think its partly due to the realisation of how many people watch films in China, and the money Hollywood can get by being more inclusive. As to the Jack Reacher one, I'm not too surprised. The books are apparently quite popular (I've read a handful), and part of the idea was always to set it up as a potential franchise. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 One thing I was thinking about Suicide Squad today...how do they justify a PG-13 rating for this movie? I mean, it's a disturbing film, filled with torture and some pretty messed up deaths. Diablo's story alone is enough to traumatize. I guess it is less the PG-13 rating that bothers me, but rather how this compares to a film like the Avengers. You give these films the same ratings despite being completely different in tone. I don't know, it just seems like the MPAA is more concerned with boobs, swear words, and blood than actual content. I feel like we've gotten to this weird place where every movie is PG-13 nowadays without any real emphasis on themes and content. Why the heck is The Martian PG-13? Because of some salty language and Matt Damon's butt? It's a film that glorifies science and overcoming tremendous odds, it should be watched by everyone. Growing up, we had some pretty scary stuff on the PG scale. Temple of Doom, Gremlins, even Jaws. It means nothing nowadays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Not movie related but your post reminded me...they can now say the word "sh*t" on the SyFy channel. I hear it frequently in Dark Matter and Killjoys "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 One thing I was thinking about Suicide Squad today...how do they justify a PG-13 rating for this movie? I mean, it's a disturbing film, filled with torture and some pretty messed up deaths. Diablo's story alone is enough to traumatize. I guess it is less the PG-13 rating that bothers me, but rather how this compares to a film like the Avengers. You give these films the same ratings despite being completely different in tone. I don't know, it just seems like the MPAA is more concerned with boobs, swear words, and blood than actual content. I feel like we've gotten to this weird place where every movie is PG-13 nowadays without any real emphasis on themes and content. Why the heck is The Martian PG-13? Because of some salty language and Matt Damon's butt? It's a film that glorifies science and overcoming tremendous odds, it should be watched by everyone. Growing up, we had some pretty scary stuff on the PG scale. Temple of Doom, Gremlins, even Jaws. It means nothing nowadays. Oh you are so naive, it always meant nothing, its just stupid protection against law court - because you know, some people are able to put their own cat in microwave and then sue makers that there is no sticker on it - 'Don't be idiot' I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 You must be fun at parties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if the general shift in Hollywood from very American-centric (where even Earth would generally always be shown with the North American continent facing outwards) to a more world centric view, has been due to the success of some brands abroad that had abysmal reception in the home market? There are some films that do so well outside of the US that the US film-makers make sequels regardless of stateside performance. Conan, for example, has a sequel because of how well it did in Europe which doubled the films profitability. Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief mad 60% of its $230 million internationally, thus the sequel. I think though the international box-office is becoming more important - particularly with Chinese funding companies investing in some of these big-budget spectacle films (Alibaba Picture Group put money towards Star Trek Beyond and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Out of the Shadows, for example) One thing I was thinking about Suicide Squad today...how do they justify a PG-13 rating for this movie? I mean, it's a disturbing film, filled with torture and some pretty messed up deaths. Diablo's story alone is enough to traumatize. I guess it is less the PG-13 rating that bothers me, but rather how this compares to a film like the Avengers. You give these films the same ratings despite being completely different in tone. I don't know, it just seems like the MPAA is more concerned with boobs, swear words, and blood than actual content. I feel like we've gotten to this weird place where every movie is PG-13 nowadays without any real emphasis on themes and content. Why the heck is The Martian PG-13? Because of some salty language and Matt Damon's butt? It's a film that glorifies science and overcoming tremendous odds, it should be watched by everyone. Growing up, we had some pretty scary stuff on the PG scale. Temple of Doom, Gremlins, even Jaws. It means nothing nowadays. As I recall have one "****" and a bunch of other cursewords or two "****s" is an automatic PG-13. Its the reason why an otherwise innocuous film will have a character bust a couple of "****s" out. The reason why PG-13 is the sought after rating is because post-Temple of Doom the PG rating was seen as a secondary "kiddie" rating with G (in fact most animated films are PG instead of G now). Gone from PG was intense scary sequences (like in Temple of Doom), violence and brief non-sexual nudity. Despite years of proof otherwise (pretty much all of the drive-in fare and cheap slasher films of the 70s and 80s), the general thought is that R rated films are considered "limited in audience" (partially because of various lawsuit that led to cracking down on underage and unescorted youngsters buying tickets). Until recently (Deadpool for example) an R rating was considered a box-office deathknell. Even horror films, long the purveyor of cheap R-rated thrills of the grindhouse era have mostly moved into PG-13 scares (a point often derrided by horror & gore fans). 1 I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 You must be fun at parties. not much, if you don't like grumpy people, than I am your man I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 One thing I was thinking about Suicide Squad today...how do they justify a PG-13 rating for this movie? I mean, it's a disturbing film, filled with torture and some pretty messed up deaths. Diablo's story alone is enough to traumatize. I guess it is less the PG-13 rating that bothers me, but rather how this compares to a film like the Avengers. You give these films the same ratings despite being completely different in tone. I don't know, it just seems like the MPAA is more concerned with boobs, swear words, and blood than actual content. I feel like we've gotten to this weird place where every movie is PG-13 nowadays without any real emphasis on themes and content. Why the heck is The Martian PG-13? Because of some salty language and Matt Damon's butt? It's a film that glorifies science and overcoming tremendous odds, it should be watched by everyone. Growing up, we had some pretty scary stuff on the PG scale. Temple of Doom, Gremlins, even Jaws. It means nothing nowadays. Insidious is PG-13. Air Force One is rated R. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 One thing I was thinking about Suicide Squad today...how do they justify a PG-13 rating for this movie? I mean, it's a disturbing film, filled with torture and some pretty messed up deaths. Diablo's story alone is enough to traumatize. I guess it is less the PG-13 rating that bothers me, but rather how this compares to a film like the Avengers. You give these films the same ratings despite being completely different in tone. I don't know, it just seems like the MPAA is more concerned with boobs, swear words, and blood than actual content. I feel like we've gotten to this weird place where every movie is PG-13 nowadays without any real emphasis on themes and content. Why the heck is The Martian PG-13? Because of some salty language and Matt Damon's butt? It's a film that glorifies science and overcoming tremendous odds, it should be watched by everyone. Growing up, we had some pretty scary stuff on the PG scale. Temple of Doom, Gremlins, even Jaws. It means nothing nowadays. The day I noticed Ocarina of Time had an E rating is when I realized parental ratings are complete baloney. As a wiser man than me put it, "Is this game rated E for horrific imagery and gore?". Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 Not movie related but your post reminded me...they can now say the word "sh*t" on the SyFy channel. I hear it frequently in Dark Matter and Killjoys In my understanding they are allowed to use profanities as much they want, but they have opted out from using them because they want as big audience as possible. Also Dark Matter and Killjoys are Canadian shows, so they may get special privileges. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted August 11, 2016 Share Posted August 11, 2016 I wonder if the general shift in Hollywood from very American-centric (where even Earth would generally always be shown with the North American continent facing outwards) to a more world centric view, has been due to the success of some brands abroad that had abysmal reception in the home market? Maybe Not really knowing anything about the business I was surprised to hear that a movie making 60% abroad was a big deal. Given the entirety of the world I just assumed that would be normal Boy was I wrong Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amentep Posted August 12, 2016 Share Posted August 12, 2016 I wonder if the general shift in Hollywood from very American-centric (where even Earth would generally always be shown with the North American continent facing outwards) to a more world centric view, has been due to the success of some brands abroad that had abysmal reception in the home market?Maybe Not really knowing anything about the business I was surprised to hear that a movie making 60% abroad was a big deal. Given the entirety of the world I just assumed that would be normal Boy was I wrong Iirc, the usual split is 60/40 in favor of domestic. Some movies do well, but a lot don't. Some movies don't get fully released abroad (like Ghostbusters not making it to China). Othertimes movies are produced by one entity and distributed domestically by them but by a different company overseas meaning only the domestic gross goes to cover the expense. I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarex Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Most anticipated movie of 2016/2017 1 "because they filled mommy with enough mythic power to become a demi-god" - KP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDeranged Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Most anticipated movie of 2016/2017 I have to respect how they keep churning out this schlock after so many years. Also Milla Jovovich is maturing nicely Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted August 14, 2016 Author Share Posted August 14, 2016 You know it's gonna be a sucky action movie with shaky cam- when they cut the trailer up so bad that you can only tell the bare minimum of what's happening on any individual shot. Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Hey, it is still the best video game to movie adaptation around. Milla Jovovich is amazing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Hey, it is still the best video game to movie adaptation around. ... that is so very sad. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 "Hey, it is still the best video game to movie adaptation around. Milla Jovovich is amazing." No, but it is one of the most successful. Part 1 was solid, and I haven't bothered with them after part 2. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Bad Moms - As a sexist pigboy who hates women led movies byd efault I went to this film and enjoyed myself. It was a fun little movie that was funny. However, you can tell the SJWs just had to intervere with it. There were two male characters - one was absolute perfection for women and the other was a douchebag loser. Oh, there was a 3rd male (the principle) but he was just there). Mila Kunis and the other leads were pretty much on point and hilariously funny. 7.5/10 P.S.Hey GB 2016. This is how you make a good movie. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I was surprised how bad these Resident Evil movies became and *still* they were able to make more of them. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 They're not all that expensive to make. It's why you get so many Nightmares or Halloweens or Saws. Just look at Bad Moms and Ghostbusters. GB is a failure yet it has made just udner 200mil. Bad Moms has made about 60mil. Bad Moms is a success while Ghostbusters is a failure... DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 Hey, it is still the best video game to movie adaptation around. Milla Jovovich is amazing. Off the top of my head, I feel Silent Hill, WarCraft, Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider, Need For Speed, Doom and Mortal Kombat are better video game adaptations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted August 14, 2016 Share Posted August 14, 2016 I have to say, I did think for its faults, the Hitman adaption with Timothy Olyphant was a fairly good attempt. 1 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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