BAdler Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Update by Josh Sawyer, Project Director For our third class update, we will be covering chanters and priests. Along with paladins (covered in Update 56), these classes provide parties with their core support bonuses and healing effects. Different games refer to these types of characters using different terms -- usually "leader" or "support" -- but at their core, they excel when they are providing assistance to their teammates. The benefits they provide to the group often outstrip the contributions of individual party members in the final tally, but their abilities must be used carefully to maximize their impact. Our next update will be from Adam Brennecke. He has some great graphical enhancements to share that we hope you'll enjoy. After that, our final class update will be on The Front Line: fighters and barbarians. All three of the leader classes have a balanced suite of offensive abilities and though there is overlap in the effects of their various support abilities, they differ significantly in how they are used. Paladins utilize persistent auras to provide strong bonuses to allies in their immediate vicinity and limited-use single-target commands to grant powerful buffs to individual teammates. Chanters' phrases create a rotating cycle of bonuses that shift over the course of combat, building up energy until they can utter powerful invocations. Priests are traditional casters, relying on large area of effect bonuses mixed with small area offensive spells to direct combat from afar. Kana Rua, a chanter. Chanters are storytellers and repositories of ancient lore from myriad cultural traditions. They use these stories and legends to stir the memories of the dreaming lost souls and soul fragments that surround them. The spirits respond by creating magical effects, essentially playing their part in the recreation of the legends. In this way, chanters act as directors of supernatural actors playing out momentary plays for the chanter's benefit. Due to their heavy focus on folktales and storytelling, they have an inherent bonus to Lore. As explorers of many lost and forgotten vaults dating back to Eora's antiquity, chanters also have a bonus to Mechanics, helping them bypass tricky locks and traps. To use their special kind of magic, chanters link together individual short phrases from different legends to create longer chants. The phrases have distinctive, thematically-appropriate effects that are of low power but can be applied while the chanter is engaged in other combat activities. As one phrase ends and another begins, the effects of the first phrase will linger, allowing multiple phrases to overlap with each other. Through the clever overlapping of phrases, chanters can grant their allies a sizable stack of minor bonuses. But chanters aren't entirely about their passive phrases and chants. With each phrase that passes, chanters gain greater control over the spirits assisting them. When enough control is gained, chanters can direct them to perform a single powerful spell called an invocation. Invocations are often support-oriented, but some contain powerful offensive effects. Invocations are so powerful that they disrupt a chanter's chants, disabling their effects for several seconds until the chanter can recover. While Eora's wizards are known for their "colorful" spell names, chanters' phrases are far more loquacious, often incorporating the entire spoken text of the phrase. Sample chants: Blessed Was Wengridh, Quickest of His Tribe - Movement rate and Reflexes increased for allies in the area of effect. Thick Grew Their Tongues, Stumbling O'er Words - Enemy Concentration is reduced. (Will) The Fox from the Farmer Did Run and Leap - Enemy Disengagement Attacks have reduced Accuracy. The Silver Knights' Shields Broke Both Arrow and Blade - Increases the Deflection of allies in the area of effect. At the Sight of their Comrades, their Hearts Grew Bold - Increases the Fortitude and Will of allies in the area of effect. Sample invocations: Not Felled by Axe, Nor Broken by Storm - Increases allied Slash and Shock Damage Threshold. If their Bones Sleep Still Under that Hill, None Can Say - Summons three skeletons. The Thunder Rolled like Waves on Black Seas - Stuns and pushes enemies in the area of effect. (Fortitude) The Lover Cried out to the Beloved, "I am Yours!" - Charm effect on all enemies in the area of effect. (Will) Rise Again, Rise Again, Scions of Adon! - Revives unconscious allies and heals a small amount of Stamina in a large area. This has no effect on characters who have already been Maimed or Killed in combat. The Brideman Slew Thirty 'Fore they Crossed Half the Hall - Increases the Might, Constitution, and Resolve of allies in the area of effect. In addition to their chants and invocations, chanters' close association with the Lost gives them one final, passive power: Ancient Memory. This ability activates whenever the chanter is in combat and grants low-level Stamina regeneration to all nearby allies. It is not as strong as a fighter's Constant Recovery or a priest's Holy Radiance, but can affect even faraway allies at all times. Cadegund, a priest. Priests are devoted followers of one or more deities, though almost all have a primary dedication to a single god above all others. They are well-versed in philosophy, myths, and legends, giving them an inherent bonus to the Lore skill. Additionally, the requirements of their faith often involve traveling long distances in difficult circumstances, giving them an inherent bonus to Athletics. In the world of Eora, priests do not gain power directly from their deity, but from their belief in the deity and the tenets of their religion. Paladins share a similar source of power, but differ from priests in the intensity and nuance of their beliefs. Paladins' faith is single-minded, extremely passionate, and held above all other concerns. The faith of priests is more philosophical, open to criticism (both their own and from others), and malleable from individual to individual. While paladins are ever-burning wellsprings of spiritual energy, priests gather energy into their own souls and release it through the use of specific prayers. These prayers form the common spells priests use in battle, ranging from healing magic and divine attacks to a variety of blessings and curses. Compared to wizards, priests have access to a smaller number of spells overall but do not need to prepare those spells in a grimoire. And while priests do have offensive spells, they are smaller in area and generally weaker in power than similar effects available to wizards and druids. Here are a few: Restore Minor Stamina - Part of a series of progressively powerful Stamina-healing spells. Restores Stamina to all allies in the area. Armor of Faith - All allies in the area gain bonus Damage Threshold. Withdraw - Caster or ally is momentarily phased out (cannot act, cannot be targeted) and regenerates Stamina. Divine Terror - All enemies in the area are Frightened for the duration (Will). Consecrated Ground - Creates a long-lasting circle of Stamina regeneration on the ground for allies. Divine Mark - Blasts the target with Burn damage and reduces their Deflection for a short duration (Will). Holy Power - Allies' Might and Resolve are increased. Pillar of Faith - Does Crush damage to the target (Reflex) and knocks enemies Prone (Fortitude) in a small area (Foe Only). Prayer Against Restraint - Part of a series of spells that ward against afflictions. Grants a bonus to resist any attack containing the Hobbled or Stuck afflictions. If those afflictions are already on the target, their durations are reduced by 10 seconds (Hobbled) or 5 seconds (Stuck) respectively. Watchful Presence - All affected allies gain an effect on them that will last until the end of combat or until triggered. When any affected character drops below 20% Stamina, Watchful Presence will heal a significant amount of Stamina on the character. Triumph of the Crusaders - Allies gain a bonus that restores Stamina every time they defeat an opponent. The ally must strike the "finishing" blow to gain the benefit. Revive the Fallen - Revives and restores a modest amount of Stamina to unconscious allies in a small area. This has no effect on characters who have already been Maimed or Killed in combat. Salvation of Time - Extends the duration of all beneficial effects on allies. Crowns for the Faithful - Increases the Perception, Intellect, and Resolve of all allies in the area. Cleansing Flame - Hurls a ball of holy fire at an enemy. It does continuous Burn damage to the target and reduces the duration of beneficial effects (Reflex). After a few seconds, the Cleansing Flame leaps to another enemy within 3m and repeats the process again, ultimately affecting up to three targets. If no valid targets are in range when a leap occurs, the spell expires. In addition to their spells, all priests have two inherent abilities: Interdiction and Holy Radiance. Interdiction is a fast-acting Dazed effect that the priest can apply to a group of enemies. It does not have a long duration, but can be valuable in gaining a quick advantage. Holy Radiance regenerates Stamina for all allies in close proximity to the priest. Additionally, any vessels (spirits bound into unliving matter like dead flesh, copper, or bronze) hit by the effect take Burn damage and are Frightened if the radiance overcomes their Will. The power of both Holy Radiance and the paladin's Faith and Conviction abilities can be modified by their behavior and the reputations they develop from the choices they make. When players make a paladin or priest character, they select an order or deity, respectively. Each choice highlights two types of behavior that are celebrated and two types of behavior that are condemned. For priests and paladins played as the main character, their Holy Radiance and Faith and Conviction power will shift based on their behavior. Reinforcing their deity's or order's preferred behavior will gradually increase their power, while playing against type will cause a small diminishment in their power. These changes are not dramatic, but reflect a measure of dissonance between the character's stated faith and how they choose to conduct themselves. A few paladin orders: The Shieldbearers of St. Elcga - An order of Aedyran holy warriors who emphasize kindness and diplomacy over cruelty and aggression. The Shieldbearers were founded in honor of an elven noble who helped unite the Aedyr and Kulklin kingdoms after a long war. Kind Wayfarers - Knights-errant who assist troubled travelers and celebrate love, condemning deception and malice even when dealing with their enemies. The Kind Wayfarers are a diverse group of people and can be found all over the known world. Bleak Walkers - Soldiers dedicated to conducting warfare mercilessly and with extreme brutality in order to bring a swift end to conflicts. Known for their unyielding, terrible nature, most nobles will only call on them as a last resort. Some of the deities priests can select: Eothas - Presumed dead by many, Eothas is (or was) the god of renewal and light. His followers exemplify honesty and benevolence in their interactions with others. In the Dyrwood, Eothasians are often victims of prejudice due to the aftermath of The Saint's War, in which the Eothasian peasant known as St. Waidwen led a holy war into Norwaech. Magran - A goddess of fire and warfare, Magran is celebrated by many Dyrwoodans for her priests' assistance in The Saint's War. Already known for their use of firearms, the priests collaborated to develop the "Godhammer" bomb that destroyed St. Waidwen at Evon Dewr Bridge. Statues of Magran can be found all over the Dyrwood and Magranites are popularly known for their boldness and quick wits. Berath - The god (or goddess) of the dead takes many forms in different cultures, but their names are widely invoked by most people at one time or another. Theologians see Berath as the guardian of all gateways, including the gates of life, death, and rebirth that all mortals must pass through. Common folk fear the priesthood of Berath but respect them for their level-headedness and unflinching resolve in the face of endless death and suffering. The Leaders of the Band are a powerful trio of classes for players who choose to focus on bolstering their allies. Each class has its own style of providing benefits and we hope you enjoy experimenting with their varied mechanics. That's all for this week. Let us know what you think of the chanter and priest in the forum. As always, thanks for reading. 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sesobebo Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 awwwww yisssss. it's "Praeses, Alia, Fero" all over again. {: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbinThreadbare Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) Bleak Walkers - Soldiers dedicated to conducting warfare mercilessly and with extreme brutality in order to bring a swift end to conflicts. Known for their unyielding, terrible nature, most nobles will only call on them as a last resort. An order devoted to General Sherman? Cool. Edited May 14, 2014 by BobbinThreadbare 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kjaamor Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I like this. I've had an eye on making my main a priest, and the notion that "Reinforcing their deity's or order's preferred behavior will gradually increase their power" in any way sounds wonderful. 3 Other kickstarter projects to which I have no affiliation but you may be interested: Serpent in the Staglands: A rtwp gothic isometric crpg in the style of Darklands The Mandate: Strategy rpg as a starship commander with focus on crew management Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endrosz Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 "Eora" Did I miss something -- is this the planet's/world's name where Eterntiy takes place? Or is it just a continent? Don't recall reading it before. 3 The Seven Blunders/Roots of Violence: Wealth without work. Pleasure without conscience. Knowledge without character. Commerce without morality. Science without humanity. Worship without sacrifice. Politics without principle. (Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi) Let's Play the Pools Saga (SSI Gold Box Classics) Pillows of Enamored Warfare -- The Zen of Nodding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The chanter phrase "Darmok and Jalad at Tenagra" wards off questionable science fiction premises. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greensleeve Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I really like that your behaviour chances your priest abilities. That's really cool. I also love the Aumauran Chanter portrait. I am, however, disappointed that Barbarians and Fighters ended up being the last classes covered 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqueakyCat Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Great update, thank you. So, Bruce, are you going to go with a Paladin of the Kind Wayfarers order? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labadal Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Very happy to see updates this early. This update made me very interested in trying out one of the three classes but I must not stray from the way of the Monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aluminiumtrioxid Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 The Bleak Walkers sound awesome and optimal for my (anti?)paladin. 2 "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lepetitmac Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Both look very interesting! Also nice to have an update at this time of the day and not in the middle of the (local) night.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forgottenlor Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I'm really glad someone beside the rogue got mechanics. It makes the chanter a much more desireable class. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 "Eora" Did I miss something -- is this the planet's/world's name where Eterntiy takes place? Or is it just a continent? Don't recall reading it before. I think this is the first time we've used it in an update. People in this part of the world commonly call the world "Eora". This general region is called The Eastern Reach by colonists. 16 twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gumbercules Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 I like the aumaua chanter portrait. Is that an island or coastal aumaua, are they male or female, and are they one of the companions? So far we seem to have: Aloth - male wood elf wizard Cadegund - female meadow human priest Edér - male meadow human rogue Forton - male savannah human monk Pallegina - female godlike ocean human paladin Sagani - female boreal dwarf ranger ? - male hearth orlan cipher Kana Rua - ? ? aumaua chanter That would fill all eight companion slots and give representation to all of the available races. One of the UI screens from a while back also mentioned a party member called the Devil of Caroc. Is that a title for one of the existing companions or are there more than eight? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helz Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Fair enough, i suppose if that's what the people really want, up to them. I think they don't want that, but maybe they don't realise it. For me, it's a shame there seem to be no...well, how can i put it without being moaned at...? I can't, so i'll leave it there. Not allowed an opinion in this day and age. You've already been very clear about your preference for burly dudes in loincloths. The fact that you see "gay" everywhere you look says a lot about you. Great update! All of the overlapping class abilities should really lead to tons of viable parties. And they're all different enough to remain diverse from one another. The chanter is the first rendition of a bard class that actually sounds like fun to play. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiaryn Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 An exceptionally poor image of Cadegund ( Suspiciously big feet. Not the most flattering attire imo. Hoping for a better portrait, or poor old Cadegund will likely be killed as soon as i meet her ) Dare i say it - Bryyy for sure will be all over me again like a rat up a drainpipe - but thus far, the makeup of the party i still find a little surprising. It genuinely does resmble what i could only describe as a miscellaneous sample of an English gay pride march on new year's eve. Not quite my admittedly stereotypical idea of an adventuring party at all. I'm hoping the last character is going to be that Austrian fella who's just won the Eurovision song contest, then we'd have the complete set ) California, it has a lot to answer for at times imo. Fair enough, i suppose if that's what the people really want, up to them. I think they don't want that, but maybe they don't realise it. For me, it's a shame there seem to be no...well, how can i put it without being moaned at...? I can't, so i'll leave it there. Not allowed an opinion in this day and age. I think it's less that you're not allowed an opinion and more that saying things like "Women who are not attractive to me personally should be murdered" (which in turn suggests that you believe being attractive to you personally is the only function of a woman) is a really creepy and regressive thing to say! 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjshae Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Very nice. I like the level of detail, atmosphere, self-consistency, and culture you are integrating into each of the classes. Every class I've read thus far seems like one I would enjoy playing. I also like the amount of D&D heritage I'm recognizing in the spell descriptions. Good job. Thank you for the update. 3 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flow Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Spell effects in the videos are cool. I'm assuming the animations are probably work in progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFSOCC Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 (edited) From the short description those orders and deities sound rather two-dimensional (maybe not the god of death) and that is a BIG disappointment. I mean, PLEASE tell me there is more nuance than the short descriptions given in this post, otherwise, perhaps you can have a look at one or two of the gods posted in the Gods thread in my signature I like the chanter a lot, It makes me doubt between playing a rogue and chanter, which is obviously a good thing. As for the priest, well, it was never a class I had much interest in, so I don't really mind the choices one way or the other. I'm not a fan of the spellcasting as depicted in the videos, but it's very similar to the IE games so I can accept them. But the "arcane" sounding invocations have always seemed absurd to me. "Bladiebadus, arcanus, rattus magnificus! Booyashakala!" just sounds like a made up language. Caldos mithra vela!... nope. Maybe if you just made it English, or Aedyran (which you've worked out) I guess. Or maybe it is Aedyran and I haven't gotten that because I haven't heard the language spoken. But to me it sounds mega-lame. One of the things I thought of Baldurs Gate II as well, so... there's that. Imagine having to hear the same three word sentence spoken with epic significance every encounter... Edit: I do love those portraits, they keep surprising me with how well made they are! Edited May 14, 2014 by JFSOCC 3 Remember: Argue the point, not the person. Remain polite and constructive. Friendly forums have friendly debate. There's no shame in being wrong. If you don't have something to add, don't post for the sake of it. And don't be afraid to post thoughts you are uncertain about, that's what discussion is for.---Pet threads, everyone has them. I love imagining Gods, Monsters, Factions and Weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysen Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 So this is Cadegung casting spells? Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quadrone Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Aw yissss, listen to those spell chants! RPGotY incoming there can be no doubt. This update feels a little more indepth than the previous two, hopefully this will hold true for the Barbarian update as well. Can't wait. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valorian Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Kana Rua seems agreeable enough. Maybe I'll have a chanter in my party after all. Is Holy Radiance a passive or active ability? I can imagine 6 priests carbonizing and frightening undeads while simultaneously healing each other. Not fair. Unless it doesn't stack, of course. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiaryn Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 From the short description those orders and deities sound rather two-dimensional (maybe not the god of death) and that is a BIG disappointment. I mean, PLEASE tell me there is more nuance than the short descriptions given in this post, otherwise, perhaps you can have a look at one or two of the gods posted in the Gods thread in my signature Simple things tend to become more complicated in practice. The Kind Wayfarers as described are basically the real world Knights Templar, before they got loaded. As we see in real world history, one thing leads to another. Protecting pilgrims means protecting their valuables well how do we do that, and then we see the evolution of the Knights Templar into international warrior-bankers. Simple creeds are good. Nothing is ever simple. And the Bleak Walkers "peace by any means necessary" is pretty much exactly what Bobbin said. The Order of General William Tecumseh Sherman. I can dig it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Is Holy Radiance a passive or active ability? I can imagine 6 priests carbonizing and frightening undeads while simultaneously healing each other. Not fair. Unless it doesn't stack, of course. Holy Radiance is a limited-use active ability. 2 twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nonek Posted May 14, 2014 Share Posted May 14, 2014 Update by Josh Sawyer, Project Director Kind Wayfarers - Knights-errant who assist troubled travelers and celebrate love, condemning deception and malice even when dealing with their enemies. The Kind Wayfarers are a diverse group of people and can be found all over the known world. One now knows whom the main enemy of the game is, death to the Kind Wayfarer's! 5 Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin. Tea for the teapot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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