Orogun01 Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Yeah, to be fair, Anders was whiny in DA:A, just a slightly different kind of whiny. I didn't really feel the possession didn't explain thing - we don't know how different it made Anders in the ensuing months. So I just took it on face value. Still hated the guy in DA2 though. I guess that in DA:A he came off as more of a man-child, substituting for Alistair (they even look alike) whereas in DA2 he became....er, I'm looking for a softer word for hysteric. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Amentep Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I dunno, Alister struck me as a character who just didn't want responsibility. Anders struck me as a guy who was against authority even in DA:A. He wasn't against responsibility so long as there wasn't an authority breathing down his neck; he only accepted the authority of the Grey Wardens because they weren't the Mage's Tower, IMO. And he soon blew them off too (which again, was in keeping with the character). I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Tale Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 I enjoy Gaider's characters. He has a flair for making them humorous and likeable. Alistair and Awakening Anders both had a sense of humor, they were sarcastic, and it was their endearing trait without which I wouldn't have remembered their names. But Gaider instead wrote Varric for wit in DA2, leaving Anders with someone who wasn't able to get the same humor and charm into the character, or perhaps didn't even want to. 2 "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Maria Caliban Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Varric was Mary Kirby. Gaider wrote Fenris in DA II. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
Bryy Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Fenris was a great character with a horrible arc. He had so much potential and they just didn't do anything with it. 1
entrerix Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 varric was the only character i liked in DA2. Anders was just awful. not as bad as the spanish kid from DA1, that character was an embarassment to humankind (i think he was an elf, but i'm going out on a limb and assuming that a human wrote the character) Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
Bryy Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Varric is my persuade option. And I loved Zevran. On every speed-run, though, I'd kill him. My record through Origins is 7 hours.
Noviere Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 Varric was definitely the high point of DA2 for me, followed by Aveline. Funnily enough, neither were romance options. I am disappointed that Gaider isn't writing the next DA novel... I liked both of the ones he wrote. I've tried to read videogame novels in the past -- a Mass Effect one, an Elder Scrolls one, a SWTOR one, and a Guild Wars one -- and they were all pretty awful.
Bos_hybrid Posted March 24, 2014 Posted March 24, 2014 -The Qunari Iron Bull. David Gaider describes with this words: He fears nothing only the past. Voiced by Raphael Sbarge. 1
Zoraptor Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Nah, he's already down for voicing the protagonist.
Volourn Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Varric is probably the best dwarf ever to be featured in video games. Just sayin'. 5 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Bryy Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Varric is probably the best dwarf ever to be featured in video games. Just sayin'. Oghren, you fool.
Volourn Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! You serious or trolling? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
lordgizka Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Bioware games have this thing where it's in the customer's best interest to wait at least a year after release to atually play them. When the last DLC is released and the bugs are (mostly) gone, I mean.
Bryy Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA! You serious or trolling? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Oghren is best in life.
Woldan Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Varric is probably the best dwarf ever to be featured in video games. Just sayin'. Oghren, you fool. Three words. Korgan motherf*cking Bloodaxe. 5 I gazed at the dead, and for one dark moment I saw a banquet.
Volourn Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Varric >>>> Korgan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oghren Hell, I'll take that dwarven child killer from BG before Oghren. L0L DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Bryy Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Varric >>>> Korgan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oghren Hell, I'll take that dwarven child killer from BG before Oghren. L0L Clearly you must love alcohol as much as Oghren does.
GhostofAnakin Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 Varric was an overall cooler character, but Oghren was a funnier character. Especially if you brought him along in your party. He had some of the funnier (cruder) party banter lines. "Console exclusive is such a harsh word." - Darque"Console exclusive is two words Darque." - Nartwak (in response to Darque's observation)
ManifestedISO Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 it's in the customer's best interest to wait at least a year after release to atually play them. If you're in to common sense. Me, I like the purest form of indignation only available with early adoption. Sweet, sweet complaining is best when fresh and deserved. All Stop. On Screen.
Nepenthe Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 varric was the only character i liked in DA2. Anders was just awful. not as bad as the spanish kid from DA1, that character was an embarassment to humankind (i think he was an elf, but i'm going out on a limb and assuming that a human wrote the character) I dug Aveline and Isabela, too. Both the siblings are ok too, but I'm not sure if their limited screen time is an advantage or disadvantage. Mechanically, to represent the "other side" of the mage/templar conflict, I think they are interesting. Fenris, Merrill, Anders and Sebastian... I am, at best, indifferent to. Every time I replay this game I find myself just using a combination of Aveline, Isabela, Varric and Bethany (as much as I can), subbing Anders is for his gameplay advantages when I have to. :/ 1 You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Noviere Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) I dug Aveline and Isabela, too. Both the siblings are ok too, but I'm not sure if their limited screen time is an advantage or disadvantage. Mechanically, to represent the "other side" of the mage/templar conflict, I think they are interesting. Fenris, Merrill, Anders and Sebastian... I am, at best, indifferent to. Every time I replay this game I find myself just using a combination of Aveline, Isabela, Varric and Bethany (as much as I can), subbing Anders is for his gameplay advantages when I have to. :/ That's who I tend to use/leave behind as well. I think the only time I've ever used Sebastian was when I did the quests specifically about him. I don't mind Merrill, but I usually only bring one mage, and her abilities never felt all that useful. I hardly ever used Fenris. Anders was brought along solely for his healing abilities. That is one thing I really hope DAI changes -- giving us flexibility with the companion abilities/roles in the party. DA2 was so restrictive. Edited March 25, 2014 by Noviere 1
Maria Caliban Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 it's in the customer's best interest to wait at least a year after release to atually play them. If you're in to common sense. Me, I like the purest form of indignation only available with early adoption. Sweet, sweet complaining is best when fresh and deserved. See my signature. I'm pre-order the CE as soon as it's available. "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
Maria Caliban Posted March 25, 2014 Posted March 25, 2014 (edited) More images. Eurogamer has the entire batch, including the ones I posted earlier. Edited March 25, 2014 by Maria Caliban 1 "When is this out. I can't wait to play it so I can talk at length about how bad it is." - Gorgon.
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