C2B Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Mike Laidlaw: "Jade Empire could have a comeback" (German) English version (linking to GameBanshee instead of the original article because I spotted it there and because Buck's comment is fairly interesting). Colour me uninterested if Laidlaw is Lead Designer.
Morgoth Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 JE is 6 years ago, and BIO talked big about a sequel but 1.5-2mil copies wasn't worthy of a sequel at that time. *shrug* You have to see this in proportion. Back then this was a lot of profit. Today a sequel would easily sell at least the double, with Bio's growing popularity. Rain makes everything better.
Volourn Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 "Jade Empire broke BioWare's mould of pseudo turn-based combat, preferring instead a button-bashing action system similar in many regards to Dragon Age II." Sorry, dude, quality aside, the combat of these two games couldn't be any more different. JE is the true definition of an Action RPG while DA2 is a full fledge RPG. Amount of combat (JE actually has BIO's elast amount, imo) notwithstanding. "You have to see this in proportion. Back then this was a lot of profit. Today a sequel would easily sell at least the double, with Bio's growing popularity." I am. JE sold 1.5-2mil. their game ebfore that,a nd their game after that (S:RPG not counting) sold 3milish. Now we have DA1 and ME2 both selling over 3mil copies and those two are way more popualr franchises than JE. So, that either emans JE gets a smaller budget to deal with the fact it won't sell as much or they'll expect too much from it and it won't meet their projections. If 1.5-2mil is not enough to satisfy BIO then JE2 is likely doomed before being released sales wise. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
kirottu Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 JE had shallow combat against stupid AI in a shallow setting while following a mediocre story. This post is not to be enjoyed, discussed, or referenced on company time.
Volourn Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 No. But, you did describe KOTOR, SOZ, TOEE, and AP. R00fles! DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Nightshape Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 I hope so. JE is their most underrated game 9as opposed to KOTOR (which is their most overrated game). English translation for an english forum? I won't hold my breath though.. JE is 6 years ago, and BIO talked big about a sequel but 1.5-2mil copies wasn't worthy of a sequel at that time. *shrug* I so wish i could comment. I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM!
Morgoth Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 I hope so. JE is their most underrated game 9as opposed to KOTOR (which is their most overrated game). English translation for an english forum? I won't hold my breath though.. JE is 6 years ago, and BIO talked big about a sequel but 1.5-2mil copies wasn't worthy of a sequel at that time. *shrug* I so wish i could comment. You working for Bio/EA or why is it you can't comment? Rain makes everything better.
Tale Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Is it a different comment than when you mentioned that JE2 was Bioware's only cancelled project and you called Laidlaw a tool? "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Nightshape Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 Probably shouldn't have said that... I came up with Crate 3.0 technology. Crate 4.0 - we shall just have to wait and see.Down and out on the Solomani RimNow the Spinward Marches don't look so GRIM!
Mera Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 I am. JE sold 1.5-2mil. Do you have a source on that? IIRC Xbox version bombed hard and I doubt PC version sold that well.
Mamoulian War Posted March 15, 2011 Posted March 15, 2011 I am. JE sold 1.5-2mil. Do you have a source on that? IIRC Xbox version bombed hard and I doubt PC version sold that well. Afaik it was published on the old Bioware homepage, before they were consumed by EA.. Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Azure79 Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I liked JE for what it was, but I was dissapointed in the setting. I was expecting more of a traditional wuxia fantasy setting with a lot rival schools battling for power, a few reclusive and powerful masters, a mysterious martial arts manual that everyone covets, but only the hero discovers through a series of strange and lucky events. I loved the music though.
Calax Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 http://www.kotaku.com.au/2011/03/oconnor-a...his-matter-end/ the Feds in Aussie land are getting ready to pull rank about a 18+ bracket for games to be sold there. Victor of the 5 year fan fic competition! Kevin Butler will awesome your face off.
Zoraptor Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 I am. JE sold 1.5-2mil. Do you have a source on that? IIRC Xbox version bombed hard and I doubt PC version sold that well. Afaik it was published on the old Bioware homepage, before they were consumed by EA.. Nope, which spoke volumes. 5 million selling Baldur's Gate Series!! 3 million selling NWN!!! 3 million selling Kotor!!!! Jade Empire, a game we also made at some point... (Sold around the 800k to 1M mark, by best estimates. Cost MS a great deal as it was late in the xbox's life and a lot of people bought its loss leading console for JE and never bought another game, probably made Bioware money as MS was publisher and supposedly paid a very large exclusivity bonus.)
Pop Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Is it a different comment than when you mentioned that JE2 was Bioware's only cancelled project and you called Laidlaw a tool? Wasn't DA:O's lead working on a game that was eventually canceled prior to his resignation from Bioware? Maybe it never actually entered production and thus couldn't have been canceled. Join me, and we shall make Production Beards a reality!
Volourn Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 "Sold around the 800k to 1M mark, by best estimates." No. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
GreasyDogMeat Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 So Zenimax acquired Human Head Studios as well? I never heard anything about this. They didn't. They only publish Prey 2. Prey 2 will not use idTech5. I was hoping it would use the Rage engine, but I'm not worried. Brink is also using idTech4 and it looks great.
Malcador Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Operation Flashpoint Red River dev doesn't like military sims Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Monte Carlo Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Operation Flashpoint Red River dev doesn't like military sims Hey, Bioware devs don't seem to like RPGs but they're selling games like hot cakes Every genre is getting dumbed down for the Playstation Generation.
Volourn Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 BIO loves RPgs but they don't make RPgs just for Monte Carolo (oer Volourn). In essence, youa re mad, because you aren't #1 on their list of 'who to please'. They have to make RPGs for lots of people not just a loud handful. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Malcador Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Dude sure pounces on any mention of Bioware it seems. Still, have to laugh at Lenton saying that, and making a Flashpoint game. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Volourn Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 "Dude sure pounces on any mention of Bioware it seems." Just as others are sure to pounce on any chance to bash BIO. L0L DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Tale Posted March 16, 2011 Posted March 16, 2011 Every genre is getting dumbed down for the Playstation Generation. If anything, it would be Xbox generation. Since so much of the modern following seems to originate with KOTOR. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
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