Guard Dog Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) Never mind. It's entirely too nice a day for political discussions. Edited May 9, 2018 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Hurlshort Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 There is no extremist Islam, there is just Islam. That's just your bigotry talking. Plenty of people say the same thing about Christianity.
Gfted1 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 In Iran, hardliners are burning the deal and the American flag. Convening in Iran's parliament -- the Majlis -- conservative MPs literally set a copy of the landmark agreement on fire. They also burned the United States flag amid chants of "Death to America." Bwahahaha, that's more like it! Could you imagine the full body convulsion that would take place worldwide if the US government did that? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Pidesco Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 That's the hardliners celebrating the huge political victory Trump dropped on their laps. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
Hurlshort Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) There is no extremist Islam, there is just Islam. That's just your bigotry talking. Plenty of people say the same thing about Christianity. Can you make a discussion without resorting to insulting your opponent, Mr. Teacher? Try making an argument, go on, this will only hurt for a while. If I hurt your feelings, I apologize. Edited May 9, 2018 by Hurlshot
Gfted1 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 That's the hardliners celebrating the huge political victory Trump dropped on their laps. I see. And what was "won"? 1 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Maedhros Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 There is no extremist Islam, there is just Islam. Didn't know this was the Breitbart comments section.
Gfted1 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I cant read Arabic, whats it say? "Death to America" followed by a fistfight breaking out in parliament? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
213374U Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 USA: Iran, you can't have teh nukes, you're too much of a global security threat Russia: dafuk u doing m8?? USA: OMG we aren't technically building more nukes, that's just to make them "safer"! 1 - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
ShadySands Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 That's the hardliners celebrating the huge political victory Trump dropped on their laps. I see. And what was "won"? Us breaking our word reinforcing them saying we can't be trusted and whatever else 2 Free games updated 3/4/21
Pidesco Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 That's the hardliners celebrating the huge political victory Trump dropped on their laps. I see. And what was "won"? The treaty was the result of a lot of negotiating between western governments and the Iranian moderates. The more extremist Iranians were always against the agreement, so the US going back on the treaty is a clear sign that the West cannot be trusted and that the moderates were fools to fight against significant internal opposition to it. Trump has essentially given the extremists a huge leg up in the next elections. Of course, you might say that the moderates are only that in name only, so who cares, but the fact of the matter is that the difference between the two factions is huge, especially when considering Iran's foreign policy. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
Gfted1 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Not to worry, Europe will save the day! EDIT: Damn, that was a good article on warheads. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Pidesco Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Well, yeah, European governments can go ahead and say they'll keep their side of the deal, and that will help somewhat in Iran. What it won't help is NATO and trade relations between the EU and the US. The Trump admin has already potentially given away control of trade relations in the Pacific by scuppering TPP, so this could certainly be a way to fast track the US towards isolationism. In any case, I personally think that America has already surrendered the driver's seat of international relations to China. It just doesn't know it yet. I dunno, maybe climate change will make all these changes moot. Or maybe China will succumb to its own really serious internal problems. What I do know is that, one way or another, things are going south, and an incompetent idiot narcissist is gleefully helping everything along. MAGA. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian touristI am Dan Quayle of the Romans.I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands.Heja Sverige!!Everyone should cuffawkle more.The wrench is your friend.
Lexx Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) In Iran, hardliners are burning the deal and the American flag. Convening in Iran's parliament -- the Majlis -- conservative MPs literally set a copy of the landmark agreement on fire. They also burned the United States flag amid chants of "Death to America." Bwahahaha, that's more like it! Could you imagine the full body convulsion that would take place worldwide if the US government did that? That's 15 or what idiots out of 290. Somehow every news article forgets to mention that. But yes, surely they must all be the same, yadda yadda. Edited May 9, 2018 by Lexx "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Gfted1 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I agree that China is in the drivers seat. Those guys just have their s**t together and dgaf what anyone else thinks. I wish we were more like them. Wrt Iran, if they perform that kind of circus while in a parlimentary meeting then I don't have much hope for any "real" agreements anyway. A decade of negotiation got us this deal? Pass. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Lexx Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) It's a beginning. You can't have changes over night-- america tried that multiple times and it made things worse, every single time. PS: Saudi Arabia is not an inch better than Iran, yet they are our "friends" .. lel. /edit: Trumps circus isn't much better, by the way. Edited May 9, 2018 by Lexx "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Bartimaeus Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 ...isn't Saudi Arabia arguably worse by many measures? Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
Hurlshort Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 I doubt it would be impossible to find 16 congressmen willing to burn the Q'ran if they thought it would help them win an election.
HoonDing Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Trump is a wahhabi zionist. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 ...isn't Saudi Arabia arguably worse by many measures? Yes, and the US didn't even have to sponsor a coup. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Gfted1 Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 It's a beginning. You can't have changes over night-- america tried that multiple times and it made things worse, every single time. PS: Saudi Arabia is not an inch better than Iran, yet they are our "friends" .. lel. /edit: Trumps circus isn't much better, by the way. Different strokes for different cultures. We would be FAR better off if we stopped judging everyone through the prism of our "Western" cultures. Aside, are we really going to delude ourselves into believing that NK can make multiple nukes but poor ole Iran just cant scrape together enough fissile material to build one? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Zoraptor Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 Yes, and the US didn't even have to sponsor a coup. Yeah, that's yet another thing the Brits can be blamed for. ...isn't Saudi Arabia arguably worse by many measures? Arguably it's worse by any measure. Except for using the dollar and buying lots of expensive US made military toys for the shoeless Houthis to blow up while videoing themselves. Albeit some bloke in a bathrobe with two teeth and flip flops blowing up an Abrams with a 60s era malyutka isn't exactly a great sales pitch when trying to convince anyone else to buy. /edit: Trumps circus isn't much better, by the way. I guess at least Trump metaphorically set it on fire rather than figuratively, but then he's also the President and Rouhani/ Khamenei weren't doing it, just the Iranian equivalent of deep south Republicans. Certainly a guy with orange spray on tan, day glo hairpiece and a speech impediment theatrically signing a piece of paper while a rapt crowd of his followers applaud after threatening his friends for sticking to the deal is not exactly in the course outline from either diplomacy101 or subtlety101.
Malcador Posted May 9, 2018 Posted May 9, 2018 There is no extremist Islam, there is just Islam. That's just your bigotry talking. Plenty of people say the same thing about Christianity. Can you make a discussion without resorting to insulting your opponent, Mr. Teacher? Try making an argument, go on, this will only hurt for a while. This is rich. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
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