Political Twelve Monkeys

[redneckdevil]

Let's believe the facts no one's seen from the very same people who said they didn't find anything on Clinton's private servers.....

 

You know the phrase "don't believe what u hear and half of what u see"...apply extra on extra if from the news OR ESPECIALLY our government.

[Elerond]

Let's believe the facts no one's seen from the very same people who said they didn't find anything on Clinton's private servers.....

 

You know the phrase "don't believe what u hear and half of what u see"...apply extra on extra if from the news OR ESPECIALLY our government.

 

They are also same people that determine what information is so valuable for country that it needs to be kept from public eye and therefore can't be stored on private server.

 

I mean if people don't believe them, then people should not prosecute other people for not believing them right?

[redneckdevil]

 

Let's believe the facts no one's seen from the very same people who said they didn't find anything on Clinton's private servers.....

 

You know the phrase "don't believe what u hear and half of what u see"...apply extra on extra if from the news OR ESPECIALLY our government.

They are also same people that determine what information is so valuable for country that it needs to be kept from public eye and therefore can't be stored on private server.

 

I mean if people don't believe them, then people should not prosecute other people for not believing them right?

Seeing how Hillary isn't in jail, no prosecution going on right?

I mean the FBI said they looked at the servers and didn't find anything wrong with them.....only to find out they DIDN'T look at them and instead had a 3rd party look at them instead. Also it's very funny that the people Hillary hired to bleak her servers before they got turned over are also related to the company who investigated the servers for the FBI...

[Elerond]

 

 

Let's believe the facts no one's seen from the very same people who said they didn't find anything on Clinton's private servers.....

 

You know the phrase "don't believe what u hear and half of what u see"...apply extra on extra if from the news OR ESPECIALLY our government.

They are also same people that determine what information is so valuable for country that it needs to be kept from public eye and therefore can't be stored on private server.

 

I mean if people don't believe them, then people should not prosecute other people for not believing them right?

Seeing how Hillary isn't in jail, no prosecution going on right?

 

 

I mean people who claim that sensitive information from security services is lie are same people who demand that Hilary should be jailed for treason because she potentially leaked said sensitive information. And they also claim that failure to prosecute Hilary is an example of government corruption.

[redneckdevil]

 

 

 

Let's believe the facts no one's seen from the very same people who said they didn't find anything on Clinton's private servers.....

 

You know the phrase "don't believe what u hear and half of what u see"...apply extra on extra if from the news OR ESPECIALLY our government.

They are also same people that determine what information is so valuable for country that it needs to be kept from public eye and therefore can't be stored on private server.

 

I mean if people don't believe them, then people should not prosecute other people for not believing them right?

Seeing how Hillary isn't in jail, no prosecution going on right?

 

I mean people who claim that sensitive information from security services is lie are same people who demand that Hilary should be jailed for treason because she potentially leaked said sensitive information. And they also claim that failure to prosecute Hilary is an example of government corruption.

So what ur saying is is someone catches u lying as long as ur part of the govt and/or media, it means ur trustworthy to believe the next thing told to ya...

 

I see what ur doing, the only flaw is is it started out with a lie (Hillary saying she didn't use a private server and then kept escalating) otherwise u would have a point.....

Nah, anyone who thinks the govt and/or media tells you the truth and nothing but the truth, sadly is a fool.

[Elerond]

 

 

 

 

Let's believe the facts no one's seen from the very same people who said they didn't find anything on Clinton's private servers.....

 

You know the phrase "don't believe what u hear and half of what u see"...apply extra on extra if from the news OR ESPECIALLY our government.

They are also same people that determine what information is so valuable for country that it needs to be kept from public eye and therefore can't be stored on private server.

 

I mean if people don't believe them, then people should not prosecute other people for not believing them right?

Seeing how Hillary isn't in jail, no prosecution going on right?

 

I mean people who claim that sensitive information from security services is lie are same people who demand that Hilary should be jailed for treason because she potentially leaked said sensitive information. And they also claim that failure to prosecute Hilary is an example of government corruption.

So what ur saying is is someone catches u lying as long as ur part of the govt and/or media, it means ur trustworthy to believe the next thing told to ya...

 

I see what ur doing, the only flaw is is it started out with a lie (Hillary saying she didn't use a private server and then kept escalating) otherwise u would have a point.....

Nah, anyone who thinks the govt and/or media tells you the truth and nothing but the truth, sadly is a fool.

 

 

Which is why I personally support open government, where information is released to public.

 

I though that she only denied sending classified emails from her private server (which seems to have been lie)

 

But funniest and saddest thing about Hilary's private server is how it was found out that she uses one. One of her aide's aol account was hacked and said aid had used it to sent emails to Clinton, when she was the secretary of state. Because that is just unacceptable form of incompetency. 

[Zoraptor]

In terms of prosecution Hillary got away with it because she was only provably incompetent, not grossly incompetent or provably deliberately sending classified emails. It seems very likely that she knew what she was doing and didn't care, same as she knew that setting up a private server was wrong but she did it anyway to avoid archiving requirements. But proving that against a 'befuddled granny trying to cope with technology' defence would be impossible to do.

 

However, the FBI accepting examination of the DNC servers by an interested 3rd party instead of themselves is deeply suspicious and should never have happened.

[HoonDing]

"Let's believe the facts"

 

your facts are nothing to my preconceived notions

[ShadySands]

Spain sees Russian interference in Catalonia separatist vote

[Elerond]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/

 

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks
The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.

[Volourn]

And?

[smjjames]

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/11/the-secret-correspondence-between-donald-trump-jr-and-wikileaks/545738/

 

The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks

The transparency organization asked the president’s son for his cooperation—in sharing its work, in contesting the results of the election, and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States.

Transparency organization? Ha! They lost that when Assanage started acting on his hate boner for Clinton and apparently collaborated with the Russians.

 

And?

It shows that Wikileaks corresponded with at least one campaign official (yes, Don Jr. was part of the campaign staff then), even if it was mostly one sided. What Don Jr. didn't say matters as much as what he did say.

[HoonDing]

"and in arranging for Julian Assange to be Australia’s ambassador to the United States."

 

was Kim Dotcom going to be New Zealand ambassador?

[Guard Dog]

We're all gonna die! Someday https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/technology/thousands-of-scientists-issue-bleak-second-notice-to-humanity/ar-BBEVmmA?li=BBmkt5R&ocid=spartanntp

[smjjames]

Why are you posting that in politics? There's nothing political about it, unless perhaps you're Republican, or even Libertarian. Dont know what the Libertarian position is on Global Warming and Climate Change.

Edited November 14, 2017 by smjjames

[Hurlshort]

Has anyone noticed what is happening to the air in New Delhi?

[smjjames]

Yeah, they've been going overboard with fireworks during that festival, on top of the usual problems.

[Malcador]

Yeah, they've been going overboard with fireworks during that festival, on top of the usual problems.

 

 

Thought it was mainly crop burning to blame. 

[pmp10]

Why are you posting that in politics? There's nothing political about it, unless perhaps you're Republican, or even Libertarian. Dont know what the Libertarian position is on Global Warming and Climate Change.

Climate change is science but taking it as a opportunity to push agenda is very much political.

You can easily tell by the offered suggestions where the authors stand politically.

[Pidesco]

Why are you posting that in politics? There's nothing political about it, unless perhaps you're Republican, or even Libertarian. Dont know what the Libertarian position is on Global Warming and Climate Change.

 

Reality has a well known liberal bias.

[Guard Dog]

Mainly I posted it here because the politicians who want us to go back to feudalism and live in mud huts and ride donkeys to our "green" jobs live in houses that burn more electricity than a small city. They fly in private jets going nowhere they need to be, thoughtlessly burn energy and preach at us how we need to shape up.  They don't even believe their own message. Or just think they are above it all. http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/GlobalWarming/story?id=2906888

 

Besides I remember in 1975 hearing we had just 10 years left. Then in 1982 there would be mass starvation by 1990. Then in 1996 the Earth would be uninhabitable in the tropic belt by 2020. How many times does the boy have to cry wolf?

 

That is not to say climate change isn't a real thing. The climate has been changing since the first free protein strings formed a cell. The climate on Mars has been heating up since Viking touched down at Chryse Plantitia in 1976 to what Opportunity is measuring at Edeavor crater some 4000k away. And that is also not to say man made gasses and human activity do not have some effect. The reductions in the use of fluorocarbons has already had an impact on the ozone layer. But far too often the "green" cause is co-opted by people with a political axe to grind and use this "green zealotry" as a cynical path to political power. Religion and science made a poor combination. But politics and science are equally toxic.

[Guard Dog]

Think liberty is not dying in the land of the "free"? Your private property is no longer private, nor even really yours: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/miami-dade/miami-shores/article97915197.html

[Gfted1]

Home owner associations have all sorts of power over the exterior of the property. Siding, paint color, roof shingles, grass height, etc... I don't want to see some clown in his driveway with 3 cars up on blocks either.

[Malcador]

Do you have to submit to one to live in the neighborhood? Luckily here we just have informal NIMBYs

[Gfted1]

Not all neighborhoods have a homeowners association, but if they do, yes you must submit. And the association is usually made up of members of the neighborhood, so its not like some fatcat is coming in and telling you what to do.