Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I have no clue who the daily stormer is. But whatever. In other news it seems the Reoublicans in Congress are coming up with a tax reform bill that Eliminates deductions the middle class count on Cap the tax free 401k contribution Raises rates Very.... democrat... of them. So based on what I've read my tax rate will go from 28% of adjusted to 25% of adjusted but I lose all my deductions so I pay more after my tax cut than before. And now my tax deferred retirement saving is not so tax deferred. So the democrats want to raise my taxes and I get to pay more. The Republicans want to cut my taxes but eliminate my deductions and I get to pay more. Oh, and the government spending is only going up so.... Explain to me again the difference between Republicans and Democrats? "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I don't care what daily stormer take on is. I can judge it on my own, do you having problem forming your own opinions? I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Pidesco Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I have no clue who the daily stormer is. But whatever. In other news it seems the Reoublicans in Congress are coming up with a tax reform bill that Eliminates deductions the middle class count on Cap the tax free 401k contribution Raises rates Very.... democrat... of them. So based on what I've read my tax rate will go from 28% of adjusted to 25% of adjusted but I lose all my deductions so I pay more after my tax cut than before. And now my tax deferred retirement saving is not so tax deferred. So the democrats want to raise my taxes and I get to pay more. The Republicans want to cut my taxes but eliminate my deductions and I get to pay more. Oh, and the government spending is only going up so.... Explain to me again the difference between Republicans and Democrats? One group openly denies established science, and aligns itself with fundamentalist christians. The other one doesn't. I don't care what daily stormer take on is. I can judge it on my own, do you having problem forming your own opinions? I have a problem with the message white supremacists get from a sitting US president's statements. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
smjjames Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) @guard dog: Funny how that works out for you..... Also, I thought Trump didn't want them to touch the 401(k) stuff? The tax reform has nothing to do with spending, that's all decided in the budget, but they seem to be making a budget shortfall in the tax stuff without doing anything about spending, thus the debt keeps going up (because they aren't making as much money). They still have to deal with a debt ceiling, except it's been postponed to March next year I believe. Edited October 25, 2017 by smjjames
Volourn Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 "One group openly denies established science, and aligns itself with fundamentalist christians. The other one doesn't." One group denies established science and aligns itself with fundamentalist muslims. Next. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Malcador Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I don't care what daily stormer take on is. I can judge it on my own, do you having problem forming your own opinions? That was evidence of his point, though, not seeing how that in itself has much to do with forming his opinion. Didn't you link an article once from Daily Stormer ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I don't care what daily stormer take on is. I can judge it on my own, do you having problem forming your own opinions? That was evidence of his point, though, not seeing how that in itself has much to do with forming his opinion. Didn't you link an article once from Daily Stormer ? Not sure, I am not US citizen and I really don't follow US media, I might have linked it once Not sure what evidence it was, that some jerk was happy about what Trump said? Don't go there, or I will use some jerk who murdered someone cheering about BLM... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
smjjames Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 "One group openly denies established science, and aligns itself with fundamentalist christians. The other one doesn't." One group denies established science and aligns itself with fundamentalist muslims. Next. Which 'denies established science' are you aiming at the Democrats? I know it's a political jab, but at least try to make some sense.
Volourn Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Unborn not being thought of as human (even though it clearly is hence justifying abortion no matter the reason), the 'gender is a social constrcut' nonsense. These all fly in the face of established science that they have managed to get people to believe in through brainwashing and propaganda and fake intellectual dishonest 'pseudo' social science. P.S. republicans also are not innocent because along with what mentioned above, the fact they often don't believe in evolution is asanine. Edited October 25, 2017 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Malcador Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I don't care what daily stormer take on is. I can judge it on my own, do you having problem forming your own opinions?That was evidence of his point, though, not seeing how that in itself has much to do with forming his opinion. Didn't you link an article once from Daily Stormer ? Not sure, I am not US citizen and I really don't follow US media, I might have linked it once Not sure what evidence it was, that some jerk was happy about what Trump said? Don't go there, or I will use some jerk who murdered someone cheering about BLM... Well I am just guessing it is meant to show how Trump is emboldening them and presumably he doesn't mind it all. Dude is too weasely, the vague mentions of plans or general statements so he can't really be pressed. Does at least have his surrogates treat him like an Oracle though Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
smjjames Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Unborn not being thought of as human (even though it clearly is hence justifying abortion no matter the reason), the 'gender is a social constrcut' nonsense. These all fly in the face of established science that they have managed to get people to believe in through brainwashing and propaganda and fake intellectual dishonest 'pseudo' social science. P.S. republicans also are not innocent because along with what mentioned above, the fact they often don't believe in evolution is asanine. Well, theres 'biological gender (which gets murky when you get into cases like having two X chromosomes and one Y chromosome, and birth abnormalities)' and theres 'cultural gender', one isn't a social construct and one is. All in all, both that and abortion boil down to a cultural and political fight that ignores science on both sides in both my sense and your sense.
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I don't care what daily stormer take on is. I can judge it on my own, do you having problem forming your own opinions?That was evidence of his point, though, not seeing how that in itself has much to do with forming his opinion. Didn't you link an article once from Daily Stormer ? Not sure, I am not US citizen and I really don't follow US media, I might have linked it once Not sure what evidence it was, that some jerk was happy about what Trump said? Don't go there, or I will use some jerk who murdered someone cheering about BLM... Well I am just guessing it is meant to show how Trump is emboldening them and presumably he doesn't mind it all. Dude is too weasely, the vague mentions of plans or general statements so he can't really be pressed. Does at least have his surrogates treat him like an Oracle though Yeah seems like one side is not happy until all white people are labelled as trash and all other prised as enrichment (except Asians) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 So I was in Berlin recently. We have a huge and quite well done Holocaust Memorial there. A far right politician from the right wing of the (already hard right) AfD has criticised that it stands. He didn’t even explicitly propagated its takedown. And he already got into deep ****. Now I don’t recall any monument for the slaves I’m Washington. Or for the natives. I do know you have a lot of confed monuments in the south. And I’m my saying that’s like putting up a monument of Hitler. But it is like putting up one of Rommel. And I believe Trump is quite fond of Lee for being his Rommel, no? Its true that new right wing parties are raising around Europe and I am sad for it as well. But its because established parties just don't want to tackle immigration at all :/ I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Hurlshort Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 So I was in Berlin recently. We have a huge and quite well done Holocaust Memorial there. A far right politician from the right wing of the (already hard right) AfD has criticised that it stands. He didn’t even explicitly propagated its takedown. And he already got into deep ****. Now I don’t recall any monument for the slaves I’m Washington. Or for the natives. I do know you have a lot of confed monuments in the south. And I’m my saying that’s like putting up a monument of Hitler. But it is like putting up one of Rommel. And I believe Trump is quite fond of Lee for being his Rommel, no? Both the Smithsonian and the Civil Rights Museum have sections devoted to slavery.
Gfted1 Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Now I don’t recall any monument for the slaves I’m Washington. I see you've specifically narrowed the possible results to the 68.34 square miles that comprises "Washington" (winkwink) but heres a slave memorial at Mt. Vernon. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
ShadySands Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Even Benedict Arnold has a monument... well his boot does The Latest: VP: Spain ‘gives us no option’ but to secede Free games updated 3/4/21
Elerond Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 ^See? Normalizing. Geez, lucky you didn't heard Churchill Churchill was one big communist supporter who should have been hanged with other war criminals
Malcador Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Or at least sent to live in Australia Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gfted1 Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I respect the effort. But I don’t think that’s quite the scale we’re talking about [img=http://www.berlin.citysam.de/fotos-berlin-0/berlin/regierungsviertel/holocaust-mahnmal-9.jpg "Are there any monuments to slaves?" "Yeah, heres one." "Not big enough." "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
213374U Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 The Latest: VP: Spain ‘gives us no option’ but to secede Man, I am so sick and tired of this circus. There is going to be no secession because they lack the most essential thing any state needs to exist: the ability to collect taxes. As it is, the Catalan public servants' payroll is directly managed by the central government. They also do not have a proper border protection agency, much less the capacity to organize and equip an army. Their strategic infrastructures and services are either bankrupt or in private hands. It's a joke. Not even the most radical separatists can answer how that would actually work, when pressed. It's all grandstanding and posturing, a smokescreen being used by both sides to hide the rampant mismanagement and corruption that have crashed the economy (both Catalan and Spanish) with no survivors. It's infuriating because the barely closeted fascists in power here have managed to embolden and strengthen a separatist movement that has historically been marginal and turn the separatist cause into a sort of resistance movement against centralist authoritarianism, embraced by a large portion of Catalan society that never wanted secession to begin with. The crooks that have caused this are going to keep wrapping themselves in flags to deflect criticism of their own incompetence and plunder, and take full advantage of a manufactured crisis that helps them self-perpetuate in power in the face of a growing sentiment that politicians are parasites. And -as usual- it's the little people that are going to get hurt, either by being on the wrong side of riot police charges or by having their living standards lowered even further. Man, **** this ****. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Hurlshort Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Monuments typically honor an event or a person. While I'm certainly not opposed to monuments to slavery in the US, I can see why there are small ones scattered across the country instead of a massive one in one place. In a lot of ways I consider it more powerful to have a specific monument to Mount Vernon slavery on the site where it existed.
HoonDing Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5012349/Foreigners-banned-buying-houses-New-Zealand.html Populist powerbroker Winston Peters - who campaigned on decreasing immigration - said New Zealand was ‘no longer for sale’ based antipodeans The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 The bigger the monument the greater the contrition I guess. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Malcador Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 The bigger the monument the greater the contrition I guess. Well, yeah. Works that way with praise, no? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Zoraptor Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Thankfully I have the Daily Stormer on hand to explain why Trump's words were a massive problem: Thing is, when anarchists are smashing up banks and starbucks then the media thinks they're terrible, violent thugs, dangerous. When they're smashing up fascists they're suddenly great though. Same group of people, same philosophy etc. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5012349/Foreigners-banned-buying-houses-New-Zealand.html Populist powerbroker Winston Peters - who campaigned on decreasing immigration - said New Zealand was ‘no longer for sale’ based antipodeans Daily Fail would love WINston. He's the closest to one of their guys we have. He's not really populist though, he just appeals to a specific segment of the population, most of whom would read the Daily Mail and which is a pretty small segment of the population overall. Critically, many of his positions- including closing immigration loop holes- were supported by the very socially liberal Labour Party even before they became the government; and the refugee quota is actually going up. As with many other places we have a genuine problem with an overheated housing market pushed up by unrestrained foreign investment. When the average house price is 25x the average wage it's a bit of a problem and increasing prices are not due to genuine demand. There are also well known and ignored loop holes with immigration where 'skilled' immigrants include occupations that aren't skilled- usually advertised locally with dreadful conditions so as to discourage locals from applying; employment consultants will then charge the skilled immigrant fees to place them, and since they can easily be deported if they lose their job that leads to them often working under illegal conditions as they cannot complain and their 'skilled' jobs sometimes being things like, literally, waiting tables- and there are a plethora of dodgy 'academic' institutions that exist to hand out student visas, then working visas, then permanent residency. With immigration consultants charging fees for that as well. Previous government loved all of that since it made the books look good on the face of it, no matter what the long term problems were. And if you complained about it you were racist. Ex government got pinged under their own copyright law yesterday for 700k odd for using a knock off version of Eminem's 'Lose Yourself' during the last election. The name of the knock off was 'Eminemesque' and they thought it was, direct quote from the guy who is world famous for being hit in the face with a marital aid on live tv, "pretty legal". Sums that bunch of clowns up perfectly and I'm not sure I've stopped laughing about it yet.
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