Where on the political spectrum are you?

[Elerond]

I am pirate all way to the end.

[Keyrock]

Pretty sure the overwhelming majority of us are libertarian left.

Majority yes, though there are a fair number of us here that lean libertarian right, myself included.  From those that have replied it seems we are definitely overwhelmingly libertarian, though.

[Malcador]

 

 

 

 

Lmfao!! I think it's broken lol.

-5.38, -3.85

Apparently I'm libertarian left? I rhink it's broken, how can I be a SJW nazi?! I hate hippies and mostly what the democrates has become.

SJWs are Authoritarian left. Libertarian Left tends to mean leave people alone but I'm ok with single payer health care and breaking up monopolies.

Well depends on who is calling others SJW, I see a lot of times where the factor is "thinks racial slurs is bad".

True, in its original form it described the Authoritarian Left. Now it is interchangeable with PC Police

Perhaps, still see anyone using that in a serious context as a jackass though. Too much time on forums, perhaps.

 

A U of T prof did that (while claiming without proof his lock was vandalized), heh.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Malcador

[213374U]

 

It's pretty much the polar opposite... Fascist is authoritatian right

 

The interesting thing with Fascism, is it is basically socialism without the obsession with equality.

 

You're kidding, right?

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

 

It's pretty much the polar opposite... Fascist is authoritatian right

 

The interesting thing with Fascism, is it is basically socialism without the obsession with equality.

 

 

You're kidding, right?

 

Well Hitler may have privatized a lot but he said some stuff about the common weal and taking care of countrymen so close enough.

[Orogun01]

I don't like those tests, I usually get Socialist Democrat or National Socialist.

[Ben No.3]

You get "national socialist"?

 

 

Forgive me, but last time that term was around in Germany it ended disasterous

[Oerwinde]

 

 

It's pretty much the polar opposite... Fascist is authoritatian right

 

The interesting thing with Fascism, is it is basically socialism without the obsession with equality.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

Both advocate for the breakdown of the traditional family in favor of the state. Both have state controlled business, though under socialism this is much more overt. Both require a strong centralized government. Really the major differences between the two is Fascism is nationalist with an emphasis on excluding those not of that nation, and socialism is internationalist with an emphasis on uniting everyone under it.

[teknoman2]

i'm 5 points left and 2 points down according to this, but i'm more of a "the cause justifies the means" person so i do not disdain any practice typical of any of the extremes if it serves my purpose.

[Blarghagh]

 

 

It's pretty much the polar opposite... Fascist is authoritatian right

 

The interesting thing with Fascism, is it is basically socialism without the obsession with equality.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

 

I dunno, Hitler's NSDAP party directly translated was the National Socialist German Labour Party. It pretty much says it on the tin.

Edited November 10, 2016 by TrueNeutral

[Malcador]

If you have to state what you are, you're usually lying though

[Elerond]

 

 

 

It's pretty much the polar opposite... Fascist is authoritatian right

 

The interesting thing with Fascism, is it is basically socialism without the obsession with equality.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

 

I dunno, Hitler's NSDAP party directly translated was the National Socialist German Labour Party. It pretty much says it on the tin.

 

 

The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio meaning a bundle of rods, ultimately from the Latin word fasces. The symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity: a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break. This was the name given to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates and at first applied mainly to organisations on the political Left. In 1919, Benito Mussolini founded the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento in Milan, which became the Partito Nazionale Fascista (National Fascist Party) two years later.

NSDAP are linked to Italian fascism because they had lot of similar politics and ideologies.

 

There is agreed on definition what fascism means and what makes people fascists. But it is generally accepted that Nazis and those above mention Italian political organizations were fascists.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

i'm more of a "the cause justifies the means" person so i do not disdain any practice typical of any of the extremes if it serves my purpose.

 

Edited November 10, 2016 by aluminiumtrioxid

[Azdeus]

The Italian term fascismo is derived from fascio meaning a bundle of rods, ultimately from the Latin word fasces. The symbolism of the fasces suggested strength through unity: a single rod is easily broken, while the bundle is difficult to break. This was the name given to political organizations in Italy known as fasci, groups similar to guilds or syndicates and at first applied mainly to organisations on the political Left. In 1919, Benito Mussolini founded the Fasci Italiani di Combattimento in Milan, which became the Partito Nazionale Fascista (National Fascist Party) two years later.

NSDAP are linked to Italian fascism because they had lot of similar politics and ideologies.

 

There is agreed on definition what fascism means and what makes people fascists. But it is generally accepted that Nazis and those above mention Italian political organizations were fascists.

Trivia; The Swedish polices heraldic symbol contains two crossed fascia.

[HoonDing]

seems im librul

[Deadly_Nightshade]

Your Political Compass

 

Economic Left/Right: -4.13

Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.1

 

https://www.politicalcompass.org/chart?ec=-4.13&soc=-6.1

[213374U]

Both advocate for the breakdown of the traditional family in favor of the state. Both have state controlled business, though under socialism this is much more overt. Both require a strong centralized government. Really the major differences between the two is Fascism is nationalist with an emphasis on excluding those not of that nation, and socialism is internationalist with an emphasis on uniting everyone under it.

 

Where did you get that idea?

 

Fascism doesn't advocate for the breakdown of the traditional family as the indivisible unit of society -- more like the opposite. Mussolini actually encouraged strong traditional family values (women chiefly as procreators and housekeepers, no contraception) to appeal to conservatives and, most importantly, the Catholic Church. Same thing with Franco's regime in Spain, even though he was more an ultraconservative autocrat than an actual card carrying fascist. It's hard to understand the influence that the Catholic Church still has on the cultural and social fabric of Mediterranean countries even today, not to mention in the 1920's. The incomplete and late mobilization of women by Germany is one of the reasons that contributed to their war production never being able to keep up with the Soviet Union's, too.

 

Socialism doesn't specifically advocate for the phasing out of traditional families either, unless by traditional you specifically mean keeping women out of the workforce. Beyond the idea that capitalism doesn't serve the majority of the community and that the fruit of labor should benefit everyone, the different variants of "socialism" have little in common with one another. Which is why you have the so-called "socialist countries" which are for all intents and purposes military dictatorships with a centrally planned economy on one end of the spectrum, and on the other some weaksauce Social Democracy movements whose apparent goal is to beat around the bush perpetually and make sure not to step on anyone's toes while they're at it, with everything ranging from post-recession Iceland to 1970's Libyan Jamahiriya in between. The ultimate goal of anarcho-communists is the abolition of the state and money, go figure. Which one is truly "socialist"?

 

Of course, if you live in a single-party police state, differences are going to seem academic, but that's more a thing with totalitarian regimes than whatever philosophies they use to justify themselves.

 

So, socialism is statist, except when it's not. Fascism is revolutionary except when it's not, and neither really seeks to abolish families and replace them with subservience to the state, because its not either/or.

Edited November 10, 2016 by 213374U

[majestic]

 

 

 

It's pretty much the polar opposite... Fascist is authoritatian right

 

The interesting thing with Fascism, is it is basically socialism without the obsession with equality.

 

You're kidding, right?

 

 

I dunno, Hitler's NSDAP party directly translated was the National Socialist German Labour Party. It pretty much says it on the tin.

 

 

North Korea calls itself the Democratic People's Republic of Korea. Pretty much what it says on... oh, wait.

[Zoraptor]

Plus German Democratic Republic vs Federal Republic of Germany. And historically the most famous example is probably the 'Holy' 'Roman' 'Empire'.

 

 

 

I dunno, Hitler's NSDAP party directly translated was the National Socialist German Labour Party. It pretty much says it on the tin.

 

 

Doesn't this come up every time?

 

The socialist wing of the NSDAP got liquidated with Ernst Rohm not long after Hitler got into power, along with other German socialists. The 'Socialist' and 'Worker' words in NSDAP were just PR to attract poor voters from the red parties.

[Gorgon]

https://www.politicalcompass.org/analysis2?ec=-4.5&soc=-3.79i

 

That puts me next to Ghandi apparently. I will say that my answers to all those questions would have been 'it depends' had i had the option. 

[FlintlockJazz]

-7, -8 or something.  Surprised how far to the Left I have swung considering I used to be a bit of a Tory boy growing up, though I had known I had drifted Left.  Think some of the questions weren't that good or didn't have the responses I really wanted, and I think I answered some of the questions more as a high Liberty person that gave me more Left points (my response is more "Do whatever you want its your life" kind of thing than any belief).  I think the high Liberty score might explain why I am feeling rather 'off' on some the posts I have seen some of my 'fellow' Socialists have posted on FB regarding the Trump election: I suspect people on both sides of the 'issue' would score rather highly on the Authoritarian side of things.  Was starting to think there was something wrong with me when I looked at a post from supposed Lefty friend and a post from a supposed Righty friend and felt like they were the same person.