pmp10 Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Those are games shipped. Bioware numbers may be tracking games sold. Edited November 8, 2010 by pmp10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flouride Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Are you guys trying to summon Volourn? That 5 millions is nice figure though, even if it's units shipped. Hate the living, love the dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Llyranor Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) 300 million in sales? Sawyer must be rolling in his grave. Edited November 8, 2010 by Llyranor (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaftan Barlast Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) Bethesda are probably happy-slash-angry right now. They've made a ton of cash, but their inhouse dev team has been thoroughly 'pouwnedh' by the Obsidian guys. But this might be a sweet deal, keep those awful people working on crap like The Oblivion Scrolls or whatever those game are called Edited November 8, 2010 by Kaftan Barlast DISCLAIMER: Do not take what I write seriously unless it is clearly and in no uncertain terms, declared by me to be meant in a serious and non-humoristic manner. If there is no clear indication, asume the post is written in jest. This notification is meant very seriously and its purpouse is to avoid misunderstandings and the consequences thereof. Furthermore; I can not be held accountable for anything I write on these forums since the idea of taking serious responsability for my unserious actions, is an oxymoron in itself. Important: as the following sentence contains many naughty words I warn you not to read it under any circumstances; botty, knickers, wee, erogenous zone, psychiatrist, clitoris, stockings, bosom, poetry reading, dentist, fellatio and the department of agriculture. "I suppose outright stupidity and complete lack of taste could also be considered points of view. " Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Yo, let's not forget that Obsidian just took what Bethesda created and made it a bit better. Obsidian have yet to prove themselves by creating a game from scratch and then sell 5 million units of it. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Maybe they'll cry themselves to sleep and dry the tears with hundred dollar bills. lol I'm sure they'd make out pretty well. I haven't been following Obsids lately. Not for probably over a year, at least. Anyhow, New Vegas moves them forward quite a bit, so maybe they can start a new franchise. I never purchased Alpha Protocol, but it doesn't seem that one took off in the same way New Vegas has. Hopefully Obsidian can create a new game universe and really move on from there. In the meantime, I'm lovin' New Vegas. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorophx Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) with a couple of additional programmers they're more than capable of building a game of the same size and quality Edited November 8, 2010 by sorophx Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bos_hybrid Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Fallout: New Vegas ships 5 million worldwideBethesda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 VGcharts cannot be trusted. And they are US only. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 VGChartz posts guesstimates (pretty good most of the time, but still inaccurate) only of the US sales iirc, while these are worldwide number. Still, yeah, these are shipped numbers, not sales. Still, I do remember Fallout 3 shipping less copies (around 4 millions?), so from that point of view it's doing better. Of course, Morgoth also has a point: Fallout 3 paved the way in the first place, and it's likely that among those sales the majority are from people who thought "more of the same = great!". Hopefully most of those people are satisfied, but alas, there's no way to check that (and forums are pretty unreliable when it comes to that, being prone to house a lot of negativity after release). So really, overall, it's a really good number for Obsidian, but they've still got a way to go. And the comparison to Bioware seems, frankly, unwarranted, unless yeah, people are trying to summon Volo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorophx Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 what's up with the "shipped=not sold"? don't retailers buy the game from the publisher? (as you can see I don't know anything about selling stuff, so it does sound stupid to me, when they say Beth made 300 million without selling anything, but "shipping" it, I mean, what's the difference?) Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 wait, does this mean, NV did better than ME2 and DAO combined? eat your heart out, Bioware! Nope. It's down on ME2 numbers after 2 weeks(360 comparison), but only by a 100k. But it has done better then Fallout 3. Evidence? When did ME2 ever ship 5 million units, or made $300 million? Btw, VGChartz is global, NPD is US only, but NPD is also a lot more reliable. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 NPD is more reliable because they HAVE the sales number, while VGChartz uses methods to estimate sales. Unfortunately, afaik, NPD doesn't show its numbers anymore, so we're stuck with VGChartz. And, I'm pretty sure that New Vegas' numbers were US only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.E. Sawyer Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 what's up with the "shipped=not sold"? don't retailers buy the game from the publisher? (as you can see I don't know anything about selling stuff, so it does sound stupid to me, when they say Beth made 300 million without selling anything, but "shipping" it, I mean, what's the difference?) Sell-in is what's shipped to retailers. Sell-through is what is sold from retail to customers. twitter tyme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hm, can I get a copy if I mail Obsidian a cheque ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Labadal Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 It also says Beth are taking re-orders from retailers, take that as you will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorophx Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) still doesn't make much sense to me, Josh, since both have the word "sell" in them and then there's this: Beth are taking re-orders from retailers Edited November 8, 2010 by sorophx Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Evenstar Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Bethesda are probably happy-slash-angry right now. They've made a ton of cash, but their inhouse dev team has been thoroughly 'pouwnedh' by the Obsidian guys. But this might be a sweet deal, keep those awful people working on crap like The Oblivion Scrolls or whatever those game are called I imagine they're just happy--happy that many people seem to be enjoying the game and happy that it looks to be a commercial success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WorstUsernameEver Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Bethesda are probably happy-slash-angry right now. They've made a ton of cash, but their inhouse dev team has been thoroughly 'pouwnedh' by the Obsidian guys. But this might be a sweet deal, keep those awful people working on crap like The Oblivion Scrolls or whatever those game are called I imagine they're just happy--happy that many people seem to be enjoying the game and happy that it looks to be a commercial success. They probably are, but we're still all going to imagine them envious and angry because this the Obsidian forum, a place where we all substitute reality with our own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hopefully these sales numbers will convince Bethesda that Obsidian should do the next Fallout game. Now I just pray the DLC's are going to be done by Obsidian. Otherwise I will not be getting them. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hopefully these sales numbers will convince Bethesda that Obsidian should do the next Fallout game. I think Bethy are doing F4. Wouldn't mind though if Bethy publishes another (original) Obsidian game. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 (edited) I don't know how I'd feel about Obsidian doing another Fallout game. I'm kind of looking forward to seeing some other, perhaps original, works from them. Maybe they have the teams to do both, however. And Bethesda I'd prefer to see working on Elder Scrolls 5. In short, I'm not in a hurry to see Fallout 4 from anyone. Edited November 8, 2010 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hopefully these sales numbers will convince Bethesda that Obsidian should do the next Fallout game. I think Bethy are doing F4. Wouldn't mind though if Bethy publishes another (original) Obsidian game. Well if Bethesda do a Fallout 4 I'll pass on it then. Hopefully they will then shortly after allow Obsidian to then do a proper Fallout 4 after it. Fallout: New Seattle would be awesome. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Fallout 4 from Bethesda will suck again. There is no way around it. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchomene Posted November 8, 2010 Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hopefully these sales numbers will convince Bethesda that Obsidian should do the next Fallout game. I think Bethy are doing F4. Wouldn't mind though if Bethy publishes another (original) Obsidian game. Well if Bethesda do a Fallout 4 I'll pass on it then. Hopefully they will then shortly after allow Obsidian to then do a proper Fallout 4 after it. Fallout: New Seattle would be awesome. Fallout : EC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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