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5 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

Well how much will it hurt, if you gave an option to someone, who does not understand this kerfuffle, to completely turn it off?
 

First the people have been offended by other people asking for gay romances in games, now are people offended by other people asking for straight romances? Where is the sense in this? The more options you allow in your art, the more people will feel included in it 🤷‍♂️ Or you can call all these people bigots and are wondering, why your sales plumetted, or why Trump defeated Harris 🤷‍♂️

Pretty sure Trump won because of the economy and because the people that voted for Biden didn't turn out for Harris. I doubt the election was swung by pronoun sliders.

We've also talked about the game sales argument before, and there just isn't good evidence that going woke means going broke. Mediocre games do badly regardless of politics. 

Dragon Age is probably woke and I'm pretty sure it's selling well. I mean, I didn't buy it because it looks boring, but it had nothing to do with the politics. :p

Posted
10 hours ago, Mamoulian War said:

Well, some of the guy tweets/blues were not most diplomatic, and I can understand, why it might not only the "hardcore anti-woke", but also the Average Joe, who is a little bit conservative, but some of the games, which he enjoys does not give him an option to pick choices, which would represent a little bit more of his worlds view. Such Average Joe is then very easily convinced, that these "anti-woke activists" can have a point. Which is bull****... But when you are advertising your game as inclusive for all audiences, but in the end you do not offer few simple choices for a significant portion of demographic, and then you point using derogatory terms at everyone, who even in good faith might be asking why is that the case. Well such a game is then everything, but inclusive... This is not black and white issue, some shades of grey might expand your audience and in the end show a middle finger to the "hardcore anti-woke" crowd... 🤷‍♂️ In this case, the easiest solution would be to offer a toggle near the pronoun field. Liberal people wouebe able to choose, whatever would suit their playstyle, the conservative people would be able to turn this feature off. But unfortunately, we live in the world, where everything has to be turned into hyperbole, and then calling the people with different world view either bigots or groomers, with no chance at all to find at least a little bit sane middleground 

I hear you but its not a big deal to spend 5 seconds confirming your pronouns

I have been updating my CV and job interests  and I noticed all the applications had pronoun options around my personal title. It was first to me because 4 years ago I dont remember having these choices

But its literally a 5 second change and it exists outside of gaming 

I do agree its not helpful to call people bigots or groomers who object to this because this is about a broader debate  which has legitimate concerns especially around sport 

Its nots a big deal to me in gaming but it has other resonance that does matter 

 

 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

Posted
2 hours ago, Hurlshort said:

We've also talked about the game sales argument before, and there just isn't good evidence that going woke means going broke. Mediocre games do badly regardless of politics.

I'm fairly sure a game like GW2 does well, despite featuring not just same sex marriages, but some of the best inter-species erotica literature (no kidding) I've read... one of the NPC's (Snargle Goldclaw) in the game is an author that writes literal soft porn novels featuring the "interactions" between the different species (and mixing the genders too for good measure) in Tyria (the GW2 world).

The pitchfork mob seems to focus on one game at a time. Can't risk running out of views on Youtube

“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
 

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@Mamoulian War Mamie, Slovakian GTA game " Vivat Slovakia is an open-world game set in the newly independent Slovakia, a country on the dividing line between East and West. As remnants of communism linger, weakened institutions allow corruption to thrive, and power falls into the hands of the highest bidder. Fueled by money and violence, the “wild '90s” era brings a city steeped in intrigue and danger. "

 

Day I purchase for sure???

 

 

 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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