Cyberpunk 2077 continuing discussion

[marelooke]

Patch 1.63 released.

Lots of fixes, the one that stands out to me is this one:

• Chippin' In - It is now possible to examine all of the clues on Ebunike before becoming detected.

That one really bothered me as you were missing out on some significant lore on Adam Smasher due to this bug.

[Lexx]

New trailer:

 

[uuuhhii]

6 hours ago, Lexx said:

New trailer:

 

not sure how old save will be read after the patch

so much changed

[Lexx]

Probably will reset all the stats and stuff on your first load. At least that's what i would do since literally everything is different now.

[Keyrock]

I've been operating on the assumption that I'll be making a new V to play Phantom Liberty the whole time. Hopefully it's still possible to continue with an existing V for people that want to do that, but I'm wiping the slate clean.

[uuuhhii]

On 8/23/2023 at 5:05 PM, Lexx said:

Probably will reset all the stats and stuff on your first load. At least that's what i would do since literally everything is different now.

crafting spec changed so much over many patch

not sure how the whole crafting system will even work when dlc come out

[Lexx]

https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/build-planner

I just glanced at it, but looks good to me so far.

[uuuhhii]

8 minutes ago, Lexx said:

https://www.cyberpunk.net/en/build-planner

I just glanced at it, but looks good to me so far.

hope for data of all quickhack and cyberware too

otherwise a lot of thing can only be assumed from previous version

wait why is there 66 attribute point

does level cap raised to 60

Edited September 15, 2023 by uuuhhii

[Agiel]

2 hours ago, uuuhhii said:

 

does level cap raised to 60

Devs have said that if you have <<Phantom Liberty>> installed it raises the level cap to 60, and if you raise your ability points past a certain point on the build planner you'll get a tooltip that says you won't be able to actually get them to that level unless you have the expansion.

 

From pre-release footage of 2.0 and a cursory look at the build planner I was initially excited that CDPR might have done away with the TES-style "raise skill levels as you use them" system, though another observer informed me that it has sadly been retained, albeit in a little more broad form (i.e. condensed into archetypes of play such as "Shinobi," "Netrunner," "Solo," etc).

Edited September 15, 2023 by Agiel

[Raithe]

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-players-warned-to-check-their-pc-cooling-systems-before-phantom-liberty-launch/1100-6517637/?

[uuuhhii]

not sure about the whole bolt shot thing for tech weapon

most of the perk tree are about it

why not just boost fully charged shot

[Lexx]

38 minutes ago, Raithe said:

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/cyberpunk-2077-players-warned-to-check-their-pc-cooling-systems-before-phantom-liberty-launch/1100-6517637/?

I find it hard to believe that the expansion would change the engine all that much? Like, if it's already fine right now, I kinda doubt it will be all that different.

[kanisatha]

3 hours ago, Lexx said:

I find it hard to believe that the expansion would change the engine all that much? Like, if it's already fine right now, I kinda doubt it will be all that different.

Right up until your computer bursts into flames.

[Bokishi]

New update is out but I still think the DLSS 3.5 is not much improvement, still see ghosting and looks like painting

[LadyCrimson]

^ I've seen others (in comments) discussing re: ghosting. Seems a little dependent on settings, where some might work better for some or the opposite for whatever reasons - frame generation on/off (if you can do that), that ray reconstruction on/off etc.

I was considering reinstalling the game and finally trying it again, with years of updates, but the graphic stuff means little to me since I still have a 20xx. But I'll probably get curious if it all means better or worse performance on the (now) middling side.

 

[Bokishi]

Yeah I see new graphics drivers are out today as well, so I'll do more testing. I do like Frame Generation, but it does introduce weird side effects sometimes so maybe it will look better with it off

[Lexx]

Must be a hardware issue, since I don't have any ghosting in my game. It's honestly impressive to me how it manages to boost the fps so much with almost no visible impact. Only in rain did I notice weird artifacts.

[Hawke64]

If anyone has Cyberpunk 2077 on GOG, is it possible to download the previous patch with the lower system requirements? I don't see it in the Extras.

[LadyCrimson]

When I tried to Play, the launcher was a tiny black square, and would crash/not launch. Pondering this, I remembered another game has a similar issue recently and the solution was ... to click on the game's .exe Properties/Compatibility, and make sure the "Run as Admin" box is not checked.   For whatever reasons some games/coding sometimes don't like that now.

Anyway ... the 2080ti/9900k 4k performance wasn't far from what I expected/not that different. eg, at Native, 50-60 if no RT, falling to 30-40 if I turned the RT-water reflections on (not the sun and other one). If I used DLSS-Quality, bump the range up by another 8-10 or so. And it all certainly has a bit more visual polish, imo. Not mega-improved, but it's noticeable.

I do think the base DLSS 3.5 (no frame gen etc. for me) looks a lot better than 2+ it had on release, cleaner, at least on-screen (screenshots still have that softer look, ofc). Those RT reflections are even prettier then before. I didn't notice any major artifacting but one, I don't have the extra RTX settings and two, I didn't run around that long.

Note: the game, for me, installed the base nvngx_dlss.dll as version 3.1.1. So I manually replaced it with the 3.5 one. The dlssd.dll and dlssdg.dll's are the ones that are 3.5 on install, which I don't need since I can't use that tech.

[uuuhhii]

2 minutes ago, LadyCrimson said:

When I tried to Play, the launcher was a tiny black square, and would crash/not launch. Pondering this, I remembered another game has a similar issue recently and the solution was ... to click on the game's .exe Properties/Compatibility, and make sure the "Run as Admin" box is not checked.   For whatever reasons some games/coding sometimes don't like that now.

Anyway ... the 2080ti/9900k 4k performance wasn't far from what I expected/not that different. eg, at Native, 50-60 if no RT, falling to 30-40 if I turned the RT-water reflections on (not the sun and other one). If I used DLSS-Quality, bump the range up by another 8-10 or so. And it all certainly has a bit more visual polish, imo. Not mega-improved, but it's noticeable.

I do think the base DLSS 3.5 (no frame gen etc. for me) looks a lot better than 2+ it had on release, cleaner, at least on-screen (screenshots still have that softer look, ofc). Those RT reflections are even prettier then before. I didn't notice any major artifacting but one, I don't have the extra RTX settings and two, I didn't run around that long.

Note: the game, for me, installed the base nvngx_dlss.dll as version 3.1.1. So I manually replaced it with the 3.5 one. The dlssd.dll and dlssdg.dll's are the ones that are 3.5 on install, which I don't need since I can't use that tech.

are ssd necessary

really couldn't afford big one when making current pc

[Lexx]

It's 2023, SSD is always necessary.

Hell, even my backup server only runs on SSD now. Not buying anything else anymore.

Edited September 22, 2023 by Lexx

[LadyCrimson]

15 minutes ago, uuuhhii said:

are ssd necessary

Since I don't have it installed on an HDD, I can't really say. I think I noticed save loading times felt a tad longer even on my SSD, then before, but that could be faulty memory. I've seen Steam-forum posts saying it runs just fine on their HDD's, just the load times got even longer.

EDIT: That's for the base game tho. The new DLC might be different.

Edited September 22, 2023 by LadyCrimson

[uuuhhii]

25 minutes ago, Lexx said:

It's 2023, SSD is always necessary.

Hell, even my backup server only runs on SSD now. Not buying anything else anymore.

not sure how much 6 tb ssd cost now

couldn't afford it 2 years ago

[LadyCrimson]

1 hour ago, uuuhhii said:

not sure how much 6 tb ssd cost now

couldn't afford it 2 years ago

You could just get a 2TB  to put the O/S and a few or several certain games on and still use HDD for less demanding games and anything else you want. 2TB Samsung EVO sata's these days are $130, US$, like this one. https://www.amazon.com/SAMSUNG-Inch-Internal-MZ-77E2T0B-AM/dp/B08QB93S6R

Which would be perfectly fine for gaming. Obviously prices are going to vary a bit depending on exact model/brands but overall it's pretty cheap these days. But that's what I still have/do - 1tb nvme for o/s programs, 2tb sata for games, and two 4tb HDD for storage and other.

Edited September 22, 2023 by LadyCrimson

[Zoraptor]

12 hours ago, Hawke64 said:

If anyone has Cyberpunk 2077 on GOG, is it possible to download the previous patch with the lower system requirements? I don't see it in the Extras.

There's a full 1.63 offline installer, and a few patches there for me.