Random video game news

[Mamoulian War]

7 hours ago, Azdeus said:

I really don't care for yongyeahs videos, I don't like how he reads every single line in quotes and whatnot, and I can read ten times faster than he reads, but this intro was worth it.

And for those of you who are like me;

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-10-29-ea-to-appeal-5m-dutch-fifa-loot-boxes-fine

https://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2020-10-29-ea-fined-10m-over-loot-boxes-as-dutch-court-sides-with-gambling-authority

Man I love, that they appealed 5million fine and got 10 instead

 

[LadyCrimson]

17 hours ago, melkathi said:

edit:

They also added Photo Mode in hopes of getting Bokishi and LadyCrimson to play.

Wutwut?  *google*

Hmm...these days I typically don't have patience for micro-managing RTS armies or the politiking aspects if any (even tho I do like the genre). But I watched a video of a couple battles and ... yeah, I can see the appeal there.  Maybe at some point. 

[melkathi]

You can set your own lense flare

[LadyCrimson]

1 hour ago, melkathi said:

You can set your own lense flare

Total War: JJ Abrams edition?  

[Katphood]

Man, remember this trailer for Sonic Mania?

Now fast forward to 2020:

https://youtu.be/l4tkNjJsOvY

 

Ghostwire Tokyo was inspired by...Finger Gunz.

*mind blown*

 

 

[Keyrock]

I wanted to play Finger GunZ all along.

[ComradeYellow]

https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2020/10/30/cyberpunk-2077-crunch-apology/

From death threats, to 100 hour work weeks, to Kicinski belittling his own staff.  What the Hell is going on at CDPR?  They almost sound like Activision or EA now.  Totally what we need more of, inorganic bloated number crunching development processes.

[Sarex]

There are Half Life 3 level of expectations from this game right now, they must be feeling the pressure.

[Azdeus]

2 hours ago, Sarex said:

There are Half Life 3 level of expectations from this game right now, they must be feeling the pressure.

Definetly, the hype was insane for CP2077. The reddit forums has calmed down a bit though, but it's gone from HYYYPE, to bitter memes now. I miss all the fanart.

[ComradeYellow]

Cool.  I get to be the one skeptic for this game so all that's left is to be pleasantly surprised rather than bitterly disappointed.

[Azdeus]

19 minutes ago, ComradeMaster said:

Cool.  I get to be the one skeptic for this game so all that's left is to be pleasantly surprised rather than bitterly disappointed.

It's going to be a great game I reckon. It's not going to be a Fallout though.

Then again, my definition of RPG is much stricter and narrower than 99.869% of other users, I think there's only one person on these forums that would agree with me. I don't view it as an RPG, I view it as an FP action adventure with some RPG mechanics, atleast until I see proof positive of the opposite.

Edit; Actually, @Gizmo might not be the same person that I spoke with back on the Bethesda boards right before Fallout 3 was released, where we pretty much agreed about player/character separation and were disagreed with by just about everyone..

Edited October 30, 2020 by Azdeus

[ComradeYellow]

1 minute ago, Azdeus said:

I don't view it as an RPG, I view it as an FP action adventure with some RPG mechanics,

I think most people would agree with that.

If you want a Omg REAL RPG, stick with pen and paper, I imagine.  You simply have to give and take in the digital realm.

[Azdeus]

14 minutes ago, ComradeMaster said:

I think most people would agree with that.

If you want a Omg REAL RPG, stick with pen and paper, I imagine.  You simply have to give and take in the digital realm.

Fallout 1 & 2, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldurs Gate games, PoE, Pathfinder Kingmaker. These are a few choices from the top of my head that do well.

Bloodlines is the only FPS RPG that I can think of that was somewhat satisfactory with the player/character separation.

[ComradeYellow]

12 minutes ago, Azdeus said:

Fallout 1 & 2, Temple of Elemental Evil, Baldurs Gate games, PoE, Pathfinder Kingmaker. These are a few choices from the top of my head that do well.

Bloodlines is the only FPS RPG that I can think of that was somewhat satisfactory with the player/character separation.

I would rather play PnP OR a mixed element video game than play any of these. 

[Keyrock]

It's really difficult to recreate a good PnP campaign in video game form. I can't speak for other people's PnP experiences, but what was the crux of my most memorable PnP sessions wasn't the combat, it was the interactions between the PCs and/or the NPCs; the camaraderie, the bickering, backstabbing. Combat was a thing that happened, and it was exciting at times, but it was the other stuff between the combat that I remember most fondly. By necessity, most video game RPG adaptations are combat-heavy, WAAAAAAY more combat-heavy than most PnP sessions I've had, because it's one of the simplest "exciting" things you can implement in a video game. Outside of combat; the banter, decision making, exploration, etc. it's so unpredictable as to what may happen with players. In a PnP session a good GM can adapt on the fly, improvise, take the unexpected and find ways to further and/or enhance the story. Video games can't do that. A good video game designer can predict a handful of reactions, but not nearly all the different ways players may want to take things; even if he/she could, you can't program for all different possibilities, that would be madness. By their very nature, video games are always going to be way more restrictive than PnP, simply because the human GM has been taken out of the equation.

[Azdeus]

Failed skill rolls are usually the best catalysts for the most interesting sessions really, or just people desperately trying to avoid certain skill checks.

And yes, it is really difficult, bar a massive improvement in AI that is likely never going to happen. Doesn't mean that one shouldn't try to come as close as can be realistically done in a game though.

[LadyCrimson]

1 hour ago, Azdeus said:

Then again, my definition of RPG is much stricter and narrower than 99.869% of other users, I think there's only one person on these forums that would agree with me. I don't view it as an RPG, I view it as an FP action adventure with some RPG mechanics, atleast until I see proof positive of the opposite.

According to Steam and user-tags, 75%** of all games ever made are RPG's.

 

** number pulled out of my arse, but it sure feels that way sometimes

[Azdeus]

27 minutes ago, LadyCrimson said:

According to Steam and user-tags, 75%** of all games ever made are RPG's.

 

** number pulled out of my arse, but it sure feels that way sometimes

According to some user statistics is 87.113%*, you play the role of someone, thus; RPG.

*I also like arse number pulls! The more decimal numbers, the more believable they are!

Edited October 31, 2020 by Azdeus

[Sarex]

8 hours ago, ComradeMaster said:

Cool.  I get to be the one skeptic for this game so all that's left is to be pleasantly surprised rather than bitterly disappointed.

I don't know what category I fall under, but I could care less about how it turns out. I haven't played any of the Witcher games past the first one (and didn't finish that one), so I really have no expectations.

[Wormerine]

15 hours ago, ComradeMaster said:

From death threats, to 100 hour work weeks, to Kicinski belittling his own staff.  What the Hell is going on at CDPR?  They almost sound like Activision or EA now.

Not really. There has been a worrying rumours about CDPR vs it’s employees for a while now. And I don’t think one can look at massive game like Witcher3 and wonder how much work troopers had to put into it. CDPR has been always treating their customers well - unlike Activision or EA. It doesn’t mean that they treat their employees the same way. I think that 1) they might feel a bit more pressure after the success that was Witcher3 2) journalists and public might have a bigger interest in CDPR actions now that they are big. I don’t think many would care about same topics before W3 was released.

 

EDIT. Which reminds me back in Witcher1 days there was a story of devs sleeping in the office and working overtime for a prolonged amount of time to finish the game. At that time it was passionate devs completing their dream project. Now public is less favourable toward that kind of behaviour (be it self inflicted or via external pressure) and CDPR isn’t an inexperienced, first time game maker, but a commercially and critically successful AAA dev.

Edited October 31, 2020 by Wormerine

[Keyrock]

Turns out, putting out a vidja game is a non-trivial matter, especially one as large and complex as Cyberpunk 2077. Also, this may be the most hyped vidja game release since GTA V, so the company is, understandably, under INTENSE pressure and scrutiny. 

[Chilloutman]

1 hour ago, Wormerine said:

Not really. There has been a worrying rumours about CDPR vs it’s employees for a while now. And I don’t think one can look at massive game like Witcher3 and wonder how much work troopers had to put into it. CDPR has been always treating their customers well - unlike Activision or EA. It doesn’t mean that they treat their employees the same way. I think that 1) they might feel a bit more pressure after the success that was Witcher3 2) journalists and public might have a bigger interest in CDPR actions now that they are big. I don’t think many would care about same topics before W3 was released.

 

EDIT. Which reminds me back in Witcher1 days there was a story of devs sleeping in the office and working overtime for a prolonged amount of time to finish the game. At that time it was passionate devs completing their dream project. Now public is less favourable toward that kind of behaviour (be it self inflicted or via external pressure) and CDPR isn’t an inexperienced, first time game maker, but a commercially and critically successful AAA dev.

 

Hah, we got character who lived in the office. It was like in some horror movie when we were on night shift and you met him in middle of night in some random hallway xD

[Hurlshort]

2 hours ago, Keyrock said:

Turns out, putting out a vidja game is a non-trivial matter, especially one as large and complex as Cyberpunk 2077. Also, this may be the most hyped vidja game release since GTA V, so the company is, understandably, under INTENSE pressure and scrutiny. 

The comparison to Rockstar is a good one, as it sounds like they have created a similar workplace. But yeah, they've always done right by their fans, for the most part.

[Malcador]

Yep, so they'll excuse anything. 

[Zoraptor]

The flip side of being well regarded by fans is that journos will look for anything they can to drag them down.