smjjames Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Which view are you talking about specifically that she views as 'morally correct' that is viewed as morally incorrect by most people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Did she really say she'd rather be morally right than factually correct? I have to tell you.... in my line of work that attitude will get people killed. Isn't that been norm in US politics in past two years. I mean alternative facts don't appear in impromptu interviews but they have been used as reason for many policies like current shut down, but for some reason lots of people only care that politician don't really know their facts when some newbie youngling politician who can't really effect any policies by herself, don't know some details how things work in US political system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Wait, people arent mewling nonstop every time Trump speaks? US Politics 101: Immediately reject any and all ideas by the "opposition". "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithe Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I'm waiting for all the memes to be created of Trump talking about the shutdown being turned into a Dr Evil hold the world to ransom thing. "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Which view are you talking about specifically that she views as 'morally correct' that is viewed as morally incorrect by most people?Well there are a few examples but most recently, the government taxing the rich by 70%. This is of course a socialist ideal... https://youtu.be/Ayqef72QfJQ Edited January 10, 2019 by SonicMage117 Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Which view are you talking about specifically that she views as 'morally correct' that is viewed as morally incorrect by most people?Well there are a few examples but most recently, the government taxing the rich by 70%. This is of course a socialist ideal... 70% marginal tax that would come in effect after first 10 million dollars. Highest marginal tax rate in US history was 94% that come in effect after 200 000 dollars (2.5 million in today's money) in 1944. And during USA's "golden years" from 1950 to 1970 marginal tax rate for those who earned over 200000 dollars never dipped under 70%. It wasn't until 1981 The Economic Recovery Tax Act which drop highest marginal tax rate in USA from 70% to 50%. High marginal tax rates aren't really meant to collect taxes but direct rich people invest their money instead of hoarding it. Edited January 10, 2019 by Elerond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Did she really say she'd rather be morally right than factually correct? I have to tell you.... in my line of work that attitude will get people killed. Isn't that been norm in US politics in past two years. I mean alternative facts don't appear in impromptu interviews but they have been used as reason for many policies like current shut down, but for some reason lots of people only care that politician don't really know their facts when some newbie youngling politician who can't really effect any policies by herself, don't know some details how things work in US political system. I'd say the difference would be the gleeful acknowledgement that they know their positions is factually wrong but they stick by it anyway. Recent examples like Trump I think they probably believe everything they are selling. Ignorance is one thing. Pitiable, regrettable (especially for us) but different from knowing wrong and choosing it anyway. But then again even THAT is hardly unheard of in US politics. All I'm going to say is there were other names on all of the ballots than just Republicans and Democrats. The day we stop accepting the better of two bad choices and going with 3rd or 4th options is the day the two main choices will start improving. If we don't buy what they are selling maybe they will try selling us something better. Just a thought. We get the government we deserve. And we get it good and hard. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 This is the most compelling evidence I've seen to nuke the earth. 1 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smjjames Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 WSJ (The Hill article though as the WSJ one is paywalled) and Republicans are worried about the precedent that doing a National Emergency to get around congress is going to set and that Democrats could take advantage of it by doing a national emergency on climate change or something. While I think they're hyperventillating somewhat, they do have a point about setting precedent.Speaking of setting precedents... if the Republicans are so worried about this one, maybe they should have thought twice about some of the recent precedents that they've made, which kind of set things up for this to happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Didnt Obama do the same thing in 2014? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elerond Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1083733171106209792 Mark Meadows Democrats continue to refuse to negotiate in good faith or appropriate any money for border barriers. If they won’t compromise, POTUS should use asset forfeiture money or other discretionary fees to start construction. If not, he should declare a national emergency. It's time. But at least it isn't suggestion to increase taxes to pay health care for all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 (edited) I don't believe it has ever been used in the way that it is being suggested that Trump use it for I'm only able to find a list of active emergencies and none seem even remotely close Edited January 11, 2019 by ShadySands Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Obama’s executive order on immigration. Hilariously, at the time, Pence whined about it. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadySands Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Oh, it's an executive order. I think Trump already did an EO for the wall. Free games updated 3/4/21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Ah youre right, I mixed them up. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 in and of itself, declaring a state o' emergency doesn't mean much. as we noted earlier, a President has broad authority to declare national emergencies. what is significant is the specific enumerated provisions the chief executive must identify when making such announcements. building a wall requires money in large quantities and likely the allocation o' military resources. will also require condemnation o' large amounts o' private owned land... which will certain have gd transformed into a gibbering and frothing mass o' apoplectic fury. have military step in and take private owned land were one o' those foundational Declaration' Independence issues. is also the reason you see so few red state governors from border states supporting trump on this issue. declare or continue a national emergency on terrorism when you got bipartisan support o' Congress is one thing. declare state o' emergency because Congress is in opposition to chief executive desires opens a pandora's box o' problems. use emergency to take private land and loosen government purse strings? an almost novel use o' executive power, and unlikely to survive legal scrutiny, though such a court process would be torturous long. 'course this is now very much a political issue divorced from actual issue o' building a wall and border security. nobody wants to budge or blink or whatever is metaphor o' choice. as an aside, executive orders is a much different mechanic, and President could never generate billions o' dollars or take private land with executive orders anyways. obama did abuse executive orders to circumvent republican senate, but for the most part, Congress let him do so. the increasing torpid nature o' Congress allowed for executive excesses, and (at least from democrat pov) arguable required executive action 'cause o' legislative indolence. regardless, this whole thing is nuts. early last year, with a republican house and senate, trump coulda' gotten $25 billion dollars for a big and beautiful concrete wall if he had eased daca restrictions and made legal options for immigration less restrictive. were a bipartisan plan. trump wouldn't budge. in 2019 trump wants $5.7 billion from a democrat controlled house and decides now is time for a shutdown? would love to play poker with this guy. HA! Good Fun! 2 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted January 11, 2019 Share Posted January 11, 2019 Trump wants to be in Iron Sky 2 lmao Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Tulsi Gabbard to make a formal announcement for a 2020 Presidential Run this week. Good, very good. It's not often I see political news that makes me happy. In some ways I was hoping she would hold off till 2024 and try to run on a ticket (maybe Sanders) or serve as SoS for a term first. But I guess now is as good a time as any to strike. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maedhros Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Tulsi Gabbard seems like the type of Democrat that even Republicans could stomach. Will be a pretty stacked field if Biden and Sanders runs as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Of all the Democrats who might run Gabbard is the only one I find tolerable. I will not vote for her, She is still a representative of a party with far too many members that think the rights and property of the individual are only theirs at the pleasure of the state. But she is by far the least objectionable of all of them. In other news how cool is this? https://abcnews4.com/news/local/congressman-joe-cunningham-caught-bringing-beer-onto-house-floor "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The Repubs think the same way. they don't care about the rights of the individual either. 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 The Repubs think the same way. they don't care about the rights of the individual either. They do not. With just one exception (Rand Paul) I wouldn't vote for one of them either. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guard Dog Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 On a different note I thought this was funny as hell... or not: 4 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted January 12, 2019 Share Posted January 12, 2019 Trump wants to be in Iron Sky 2 lmao is it John Goodman playing Trump? 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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