Cinema Paradise - the Movie Thread Transformed

[injurai]

I love norse mythology, but I've never been a big fan of Marvel's take. It's so sterile to me. Still need to see Ragnarak, maybe I'll catch it here soon since it's on Netflix now.

[Blarghagh]

If you watch it for mythology you'll hate it. It screws up everything from a mythological perspective. :hah:

 

Watched Ragnorak last night. Easily the worst of the three Thors.

Different strokes, I think it's the best movie in the entire MCU. First time they captured the hilarity of Stan Lee-Jack Kirby comics.

[Gfted1]

Act 1, scene 1: Thor trolls Surtur.

[Hurlshort]

I thought Thor: Ragnarok was radical.

 

 

I did think the first two were pretty unremarkable.

[Amentep]

I enjoyed all three, but the weak spot was the second one, IMO.  It has its moments, but I think the story was half-baked.

[Gritino]

Thor: Ragnorak

 

It was entertaining, but dare I say, a little too slapstick-y.

I think that's a lot of Marvel movies.

[Skazz]

Ragnarok is the first MCU movie in a very long time where I felt something - and it wasn't pain. More than that, I actually enjoyed myself.

 

I loved it.

[injurai]

I don't care as much about retelling the mythos, it's more it's far removed from the naturalist world of the source material. So it ends up feeling like a bunch of lifted names and homages. Like Napolean trying to reinvoke Rome and failing. The whole time I feel like I'm watching a wealthy family who was told lies about destiny trying to "play-act" their "destiny" to be reality whenever I see Marvel's Thor. The logic that motivated the source characters doesn't translate, so when they do things that are supposed to be in character it feels like a sham. MCU's Thor is especially bad because it not only invokes the original source, but also the comics, toss in the MCU's own material and your left with something that feels like a facade.

 

At least Loki's connecting to the greater MCU world through the tesseract supplied a modicum of coherence, and Thor's character tends to play better when around the Avengers. Just those first two solo films are quite the travesty.

[Skazz]

^ I'm not sure if Ragnarok will be the movie you're looking for, but to me, Ragnarok was fun. Not funny - fun, plain and simple.

 

Sometimes I feel like blockbuster movies have forgotten how to be fun.

[ShadySands]

Best Thor movies in order

 

1. Thor 3

2. Revengers 3

3. Thor 1

4. Avengers 1

5. Avengers 2

6. Thor 2

[Lexx]

Ragnarok is the first MCU movie in a very long time where I felt something - and it wasn't pain. More than that, I actually enjoyed myself.

 

I loved it.

 

Same for me. The only other movie I enjoyed (to my surprise) was the latest Spider Man.

[injurai]

Well, I loved Spider-Man and Infinity War. So maybe Ragnarok will surprise me.

[Bartimaeus]

Wait, what? The first Thor was totally taking the piss, it was arguably the most openly comedic of the first wave of MCU films what with the whole fish out of water and overt "no longer a god" type slapstick throughout. I thought it was good fun myself (actually I've enjoyed all Thor films on a more consistent basis than I have those of any other Avenger, though it's not saying a terrible lot either).

That's a funny way of looking at it. I can see what you mean...because in the first movie, Thor was basically a total nincompoop with little to no self-awareness, leading to slapstick situations because he's just so buffoonish and apparently does not realize that his behavior is ridiculous. Thor 3, in comparison, felt a little slapstick-y not because the characters were stupid idiots, but rather the opposite: it seemed like they were smarter, more tongue-in-cheek and self-aware. I actually liked and enjoyed Thor's character a little in this movie, which I really, really did not in the first movie. The second movie I can't speak as much about, since I can only vaguely remember it and I can only remember being supremely bored...I THINK the humor was mainly supposed to come from other characters, and Thor himself was much more serious, BUT I could be wrong. Now, it's probably just a part of his character progression throughout the series, which I would agree would probably be fine from a storytelling standpoint if I'm looking at it objectively, but I pretty much freaking hated everyone else in those first two movies (besides maybe Loki), too, which means our main character also being an annoying dummy (1st) or super serious boring (my impression from the 2nd) just makes it so that the movies weren't enjoyable. So this was a nice departure from that.

Edited June 11, 2018 by Bartimaeus

[algroth]

 

Wait, what? The first Thor was totally taking the piss, it was arguably the most openly comedic of the first wave of MCU films what with the whole fish out of water and overt "no longer a god" type slapstick throughout. I thought it was good fun myself (actually I've enjoyed all Thor films on a more consistent basis than I have those of any other Avenger, though it's not saying a terrible lot either).

That's a funny way of looking at it. I can see what you mean...because in the first movie, Thor was basically a total nincompoop with little to no self-awareness, leading to slapstick situations because he's just so buffoonish and apparently does not realize that his behavior is ridiculous. Thor 3, in comparison, felt a little slapstick-y not because the characters were stupid idiots, but rather the opposite: it seemed like they were smarter, more tongue-in-cheek and self-aware. I actually liked and enjoyed Thor's character a little in this movie, which I really, really did not in the first movie. The second movie I can't speak as much about, since I can only vaguely remember it and I can only remember being supremely bored...I THINK the humor was mainly supposed to come from other characters, and Thor himself was much more serious, BUT I could be wrong. Now, it's probably just a part of his character progression throughout the series, which I would agree would probably be fine from a storytelling standpoint if I'm looking at it objectively, but I pretty much freaking hated everyone else in those first two movies (besides maybe Loki), too, which means our main character also being an annoying dummy (1st) or super serious boring (my impression from the 2nd) just makes it so that the movies weren't enjoyable. So this was a nice departure from that.

 

 

Yeah, that's really about the gist of the first movie: Thor walks out of the set of a bad Lord of the Rings rehash into a more "realist" setting (all within the context of MCU of course, so take that with a grain of salt) and comedy ensues from his overly grand and self-absorbed personality in contrast to the others. Hence all of the "I require sustenance, this mortal form grows weak" lines and so on. Future films kind of reimagined him as a quippier and more self-aware character, but his personality in the first film absolutely worked for what Branagh was going for with it, or so I felt. I really liked it, and I didn't find him annoying though, granted, that's entirely your prerogative if you do.

[Bartimaeus]

With a not as horrid supporting cast, I may have very liked it better. Alas.

[Blarghagh]

The only thing I miss about the human cast of the Thor movies is Kat Dennings calling Mjolnir "meowmeow". Well, that and her... assets. But they were extremely covered up anyway.

Edited June 12, 2018 by TrueNeutral

[Bartimaeus]

She was the worst of the lot. Annoying, can't act, and there's something I find a little repulsive about her to boot. No thanks, please shut the door on your way out, .

Edited June 12, 2018 by Bartimaeus

[Blarghagh]

Well, I was pretty specific about the only things I liked about her.

[injurai]

She was the worst of the lot. Annoying, can't act, and there's something I find a little repulsive about her to boot. No thanks, please shut the door on your way out, .

 

Harsh, but I somehow know what you mean.

[ktchong]

[LadyCrimson]

Only the Brave - I think Starz had it on.

 

For one of those based on true tragedy/events type films, it's fairly decent. Slower paced, maybe 15-20 minutes too long but in general doesn't turn into melodrama. A large ensemble of chrs. but focuses only on two so most others get short shrift. Effects worked and didn't make me think "CGI" all the time, outside of a dream sequence, and that's a dream so...

 

The bro-team-building bits and humor were done well. Maybe I'd give it a ... 7/10?

[Fiach]

Hereditary.

I thought it was great, my son thought it was crap YMMV.

 

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7784604/

[Bartimaeus]

[Skazz]

I'm a simple man. I see Mike Stoklasa, I click "like".

[majestic]

 

Yeah guys, don't give them ideas.