Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I was talking to someone today about Jeff Flake. He made a comment about being happy another RINO (Republican in Name Only) is leaving the Senate and that he hopes a real conservative replaces him. He didn't realize Flake WAS one of the "real conservatives" that came in with the "Tea Party Revolution" in 2012 & 2014. I told him with a laugh today's "tea Party Conservative" is tomorrows RINO. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Hurlshort Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Crazy how quick people are to label those that criticize Trump as fake Republicans, considering Trump's history with the democratic party. 2
smjjames Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Crazy how quick people are to label those that criticize Trump as fake Republicans, considering Trump's history with the democratic party. I don't see how that's crazy, just calling as it is, Trump has some liberal leanings, but he isn't a 'true conservative' either. Anyways, if they end up nominating someone like Kelli Ward, the Dems will have it easy, or at least easier time doing it. Unfortunate that more Republican politicians won't speak out....
Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 There isn't a nickel's worth of difference between the two parties anymore. It's the greatest con in the history of the country now. The only thing they are really fighting over now is comittee chairmanships. No matter who wins the government gets bigger, the deficit and debt go up, taxes go up on some things, down on others but spending goes only up. No programs get cut, the states lose power, the people lose liberty and the bombs never stop falling overseas. Exactly what the f--k are we fighting over here that is so important? If you really want to get new blood in Washington step one is Don't Vote For Republicans or Democrats. You do have other options. Everyone says Third Party candidates can't win. You just end up empowering the "other side". Then one day you realize there is no "other side" and hasn't been for a very long time. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
smjjames Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 It'd help if those third parties didn't do crappy candidates, and easier if the third parties went from the ground up (local, then state, then federal state, then top) rather than aiming straight for the top every time. 1
injurai Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-just-declared-war-on-the-clerics/article/2638480 There is hope yet in this world. 1
smjjames Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-just-declared-war-on-the-clerics/article/2638480 There is hope yet in this world. Dang, he's ambitious all right. I guess all it took for Saudi Arabia to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the state that it's in is some fresh royal blood, and I don't mean in the sacrificial sense. That megacity though... I wonder what the Egyptians and Jordanians would have to say about that. Also, looking at Google Maps, such a city would have to either bridge the Red Sea or circle around the northern tip of the Red Sea, meaning that he might have to include the southern tip of Israel.
HoonDing Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 "moderate" islam means he won't cut off your head anymore, just your arms and legs The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Pidesco Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Not really, no. Perhaps inadvertently, I guess. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Zoraptor Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/saudi-arabias-crown-prince-just-declared-war-on-the-clerics/article/2638480 There is hope yet in this world. Dang, he's ambitious all right. I guess all it took for Saudi Arabia to be dragged kicking and screaming out of the state that it's in is some fresh royal blood, and I don't mean in the sacrificial sense. I wouldn't hold my breath- MbS is not averse to pandering to audiences while the Wahhabi clerical apparatus is Saudi's greatest foreign affairs weapon. And the mega city is a pipe dream. Might as well have gone the whole hog and call it Amarna while he was about it. It's the standard approach of making the right noises to western media, while saying something completely different in arabic to the domestic one. The Saud's bargain with the Wahhabis in the 80s was Faustian, but made for very good reasons that have only strengthened. MbS has effectively usurped his current position and made succession hereditary, so the list of those wanting him gone is as long as the list of Saudi princes not named Muhammed bin Sultan, ie a couple of thousand of the most powerful in the kingdom. And when it comes right down to it KSA is still the place where the army bought SAMs based on ability to shoot down their own air force's planes and there are more parallel armies than in even Hitler's Germany.
Bartimaeus Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) There isn't a nickel's worth of difference between the two parties anymore. It's the greatest con in the history of the country now. The only thing they are really fighting over now is comittee chairmanships. No matter who wins the government gets bigger, the deficit and debt go up, taxes go up on some things, down on others but spending goes only up. No programs get cut, the states lose power, the people lose liberty and the bombs never stop falling overseas. Exactly what the f--k are we fighting over here that is so important? If you really want to get new blood in Washington step one is Don't Vote For Republicans or Democrats. You do have other options. Everyone says Third Party candidates can't win. You just end up empowering the "other side". Then one day you realize there is no "other side" and hasn't been for a very long time. This kind of thinking would've flown better with me (and likely others) pre-election - now, after over half a year of the utter clown show that is Republican control of every branch of our government, not so much. Yeah, they're disturbingly similar on a lot issues as well as their general characteristics as groups (such as a despicable loyalty to party over country and fellow citizens), but I'm pretty sure some of us are starting to notice some differences at this time... Edited October 25, 2017 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
redneckdevil Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 This is a slow year having Trump as a president. I was gonna ask if our debt has gone down, taxes lowered or axed, etc etc but it hasn't even been a year yet lmao.
Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 In terms of personality Trump is an abberation. We're going to get them from time to time. There have been others. Franklin Pierce comes to mind. But going back to 2004 and beyond, other than the Supreme Court is there anything that would have been done differently the the Presidential election had gone the other way? A few things, small things, yes. But in general, no. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 I've said this before but it bears repeating. I want the US Government to do as little as possible and just leave us alone. So far Trump and the 115th Congress have done nothing. I'm pleased. 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Pidesco Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 How about normalizing and legitimizing racism and white supremacy? Also that leaving people alone sure is working wonders in Puerto Rico. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Gfted1 Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 If only we had some tool to look stuff up: Puerto Rico aid is trapped in thousands of shipping containers. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) 36.5 Billion Dollars in aid, four US Navy vessels, the Florida National Guard, 60% of all FEMA's assets, to say nothing of the billions of dollars in private aid. Yeah, we're not doing a damn thing to help Puerto Rico. Oh and Pidesco as to your first dumb comment, the US government and the people in it are not responsible for the words or actions of demonstrators who happen to support the current President. They are not agents of the government so the government could hardly be said to be "normalizing" anything. The downside of free speech is you are going to hear a lot of dumb s--t. Of course the media makes it a bigger deal than it is when the less than 2k people show up for a statue are painted as a representative sample of the 63 Million who decided Trump was the lesser evil. Edited October 25, 2017 by Guard Dog 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Malcador Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) Hm, not sure normalizing behaviour comes with responsibility for it. Managers set the tone for their team and all but not like they make you do stuff. Certainly has normalized making **** up and living in an RDF (Jobs was first) more than normal. Twitter is to blame, really. Also not quite 36 billion for PR, almost 19 is for FEMA, seems in general? Headline in my local paper was off, as always Edited October 25, 2017 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Volourn Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 (edited) "How about normalizing and legitimizing racism and white supremacy?" L0L How so? People get fired when they loudly proclaim their racism (only if they happen to be white for the most part). 'Racism' and 'white supremcy' has not been 'normalized' in the US. That is utter nonsense. If any 'racism' has been 'normalzied' it is anti white racism. (but even that has led to people being suspened at least from their jobs) Edited October 25, 2017 by Volourn DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Pidesco Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 36.5 Billion Dollars in aid, four US Navy vessels, the Florida National Guard, 60% of all FEMA's assets, to say nothing of the billions of dollars in private aid. Yeah, we're not doing a damn thing to help Puerto Rico. Oh and Pidesco as to your first dumb comment, the US government and the people in it are not responsible for the words or actions of demonstrators who happen to support the current President. They are not agents of the government so the government could hardly be said to be "normalizing" anything. The downside of free speech is you are going to hear a lot of dumb s--t. Of course the media makes it a bigger deal than it is when the less than 2k people show up for a statue are painted as a representative sample of the 63 Million who decided Trump was the lesser evil. Those 36,5 billion were approved yesterday. I wasn't aware. Trump can certainly be considered culpable in the normalizing of such behaviors. His words regarding the Charlottesville incidents are the most egregious example of this. Refusal to distinguish peaceful demonstrators from openly racist, violent white supremacists definitely carries a burden of guilt as far as normalization is concerned. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 what, that he said that there are bad people on both sides? Yeah horrible :/ 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Pidesco Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 ^See? Normalizing. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Guard Dog Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 36.5 Billion Dollars in aid, four US Navy vessels, the Florida National Guard, 60% of all FEMA's assets, to say nothing of the billions of dollars in private aid. Yeah, we're not doing a damn thing to help Puerto Rico. Oh and Pidesco as to your first dumb comment, the US government and the people in it are not responsible for the words or actions of demonstrators who happen to support the current President. They are not agents of the government so the government could hardly be said to be "normalizing" anything. The downside of free speech is you are going to hear a lot of dumb s--t. Of course the media makes it a bigger deal than it is when the less than 2k people show up for a statue are painted as a representative sample of the 63 Million who decided Trump was the lesser evil. Those 36,5 billion were approved yesterday. I wasn't aware. Trump can certainly be considered culpable in the normalizing of such behaviors. His words regarding the Charlottesville incidents are the most egregious example of this. Refusal to distinguish peaceful demonstrators from openly racist, violent white supremacists definitely carries a burden of guilt as far as normalization is concerned. That 35.5 is in addition to the 15 already expended. Combined that is more money for aid in two months than the annual GDP of all but sixty some odd of the 200 some odd nations of the world. And that does not even cover the operational costs of the military and guard assets working on the ground. To say nothing of American Red Cross, United Way associates and other privately funded groups. Despite the political axe grinding of certain politicians here and in Puerto Rico their government is not ignoring them. Trump is a j-----s. No one here has suggested otherwise. Hell I didn't vote for him and it galls a little that I am defending him (somewhat) right now. But if you are suggesting him saying there were no good guys in the Virginia thing is normalizing racism and white supremacy you are off base. That was two groups of a------s who showed up looking for a fight. One was less repugnant than the other but they didn't have any real claim on the moral high ground either. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Chilloutman Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 ^See? Normalizing. Geez, lucky you didn't heard Churchill I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Pidesco Posted October 25, 2017 Posted October 25, 2017 Thankfully I have the Daily Stormer on hand to explain why Trump's words were a massive problem: "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
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