Journalism and Bias in the Gaming Industry

[Meshugger]

 

Ian Miles Cheong appologized to GamerGate and Gamers in general: http://stillgray.com/post/119992928665/what-games-mean-to-me

 

Sounds a bit too opportunist to me.

And thus the my prophesy comes true. 

 

Me: 3

Nostradamus: still friggin' 0.

 

 

I'm too lazy to search. What's your prophecy? I throw you a bone as well, here a song to get into the right mood:

 

[Namutree]

 

 

Ian Miles Cheong appologized to GamerGate and Gamers in general: http://stillgray.com/post/119992928665/what-games-mean-to-me

 

Sounds a bit too opportunist to me.

And thus the my prophesy comes true. 

 

Me: 3

Nostradamus: still friggin' 0.

 

 

I'm too lazy to search. What's your prophecy? I throw you a bone as well, here a song to get into the right mood:

 

 

Posted by Namutree on 04 May 2015 - 05:45 PM

Fighter, on 04 May 2015 - 2:33 PM, said:

What the hell happened to Miles Cheong....?

 

He's switching sides again. It's all a progression.

 

1: He starts as a nazi.

 

2: He takes a step in the right direction and becomes a SJW. <--- Annoying as they are; I'd take a SJW over a nazi.

 

3: He's taking another step in the right direction and is going to be critical of both GG and SJW's.

 

4: Eventually he'll take another step and say he's more sympathetic to GG than SJW's.

 

The trend will keep going until he's a straight up right wing libertarian.

 

[Meshugger]

lol

[Keyrock]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Ian Miles Cheong is not the Muad'Dib.

[Lexx]

I'm going to go out on a limb and say that Ian Miles Cheong is not the Muad'Dib.

How can you be so sure about that.

[Volourn]

" <--- Annoying as they are; I'd take a SJW over a nazi."

 

Same **** different pile.

[luzarius]

Has #gamergate spoken out over the censorship of Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

- removal of brothel

- removal of sexualized desire demons

- manification and uglification of straight male romance options

- ugly stick all the women in the game except for morrigan, leliana & isabela

- removal of hot boob plate armor

[BruceVC]

Has #gamergate spoken out over the censorship of Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

- removal of brothel

- removal of sexualized desire demons

- manification and uglification of straight male romance options

- ugly stick all the women in the game except for morrigan, leliana & isabela

- removal of hot boob plate armor

 

No I don't think this is on GG radar, but thanks for bringing this important development to the attention of the GG members on this forum

 

I'm sure you will find  them raising this issue 

[Longknife]

Has #gamergate spoken out over the censorship of Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

- removal of brothel

- removal of sexualized desire demons

- manification and uglification of straight male romance options

- ugly stick all the women in the game except for morrigan, leliana & isabela

- removal of hot boob plate armor

 

 

Feminism: Make women ugly!

 

 

 

Here's a fun tangent: Did you know that when a guy comments on a girl's ass and says she's got a nice ass, he's actually subconciously and completely instinctually recognizing that she's got healthy birthing hips and is more likely to provide a safe and healthy birth? I'm afraid I heard this years ago so I don't have a source on that, but during my google search I did find this: http://elitedaily.com/news/world/scientists-think-women-bigger-butts-produce-smarter-children/916018/

 

The above link at least attests to the fact that I'm not lying and yes, this is a real science that actual people in actual labcoats investigate. Interesting stuff.

 

 

Biology is smart. Very smart. And while I'm by no means trying to say that ugly people are universal failures that can't produce anything good, I merely want to highlight that there is a method to the madness of attractiveness, so shaming attractiveness and trying to go against it is a bit counter-intuitive. 

 

Not to mention how ideological it is, and therefore horrendously impractical. Case example: the USA does not realize how strong it's capitalism game is. Advertisements in the USA are flawless. Comparatively, German ads are more relaxed. Our models in ads often aren't picture perfect or they have something noticeable like a scar on their cheek or whatever. First, it comes across as more amateur and not to be taken seriously, and secondly, the stuff like scars or squinty eyes or whatever does distract from the ad itself, because at the very least you catch yourself staring and asking "I wonder why they chose this person since here I am now questioning why they chose them because it distracts from the ad, and therefore continues to do so."  I would not expect to be shown in an advertisement brandishing my prosthetic on full display so everyone sees my leg is fake because it distracts from the purpose. As such, good luck ever convincing business and marketing to buy into this kind of stuff.

 

 

EDIT:  Derpy me, I linked that source just to make a point and chose to read it once I was done. The article directly references the other study I read years ago, so viola.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Longknife

[Namutree]

Has #gamergate spoken out over the censorship of Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

- removal of brothel

- removal of sexualized desire demons

- manification and uglification of straight male romance options

- ugly stick all the women in the game except for morrigan, leliana & isabela

- removal of hot boob plate armor

It's not censorship when they do it to themselves. If a dev goes, "I don't wanna make a brothel ." It's not case of censorship. If some one forced Bioware to not have a brothel; that'd be a different story. Not including features you like, even if they were inspired by feminism (which as far as I know might not even be the case) is not censorship.

 

 

 

- removal of hot boob plate armor

Boob plate is annoying and stupid. Good riddance.

[Oerwinde]

Yeah, I read somewhere that not making the female characters attractive was a stylistic choice by the creators, not some sort of caving to outside pressure. So while its a questionable choice, there isn't anything really wrong with it.

[Meshugger]

Has #gamergate spoken out over the censorship of Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

- removal of brothel

- removal of sexualized desire demons

- manification and uglification of straight male romance options

- ugly stick all the women in the game except for morrigan, leliana & isabela

- removal of hot boob plate armor

 

Sorry, GamerGate cannot help against bad taste in design. It was Bioware's own choice.

 

Hot boob plate is always awesome, though.

[BruceVC]

 

Has #gamergate spoken out over the censorship of Dragon Age Inquisition?

 

- removal of brothel

- removal of sexualized desire demons

- manification and uglification of straight male romance options

- ugly stick all the women in the game except for morrigan, leliana & isabela

- removal of hot boob plate armor

 

Sorry, GamerGate cannot help against bad taste in design. It was Bioware's own choice.

 

Hot boob plate is always awesome, though.

 

 

The Obsidian  GG committee has studied your request luzarius and decided it has no valid grounds to express outrage and venting. Personally I want to thank the members of the committee for taking time out there busy schedules to address this request 

 

I hope this matter is now settled 

[Zoraptor]

The DAI decisions were a bit odd given that they were pretty much exact reverse of the ME3 visual design decisions where Ashley and Liara both got some augmentation from the earlier games and you had an invasion of Jersey Shore extras as well.

 

Here's a fun tangent: Did you know that when a guy comments on a girl's ass and says she's got a nice ass, he's actually subconciously and completely instinctually recognizing that she's got healthy birthing hips and is more likely to provide a safe and healthy birth?

 

I hate that sort of thing, ever since I found out why red lipstick is attractive it's the first thing I think of when I see it, which can be a bit off putting.

[Nonek]

Yes one can't look at the Maypole being erected on the green in the same light either, surprising how much of that kind of stuff veins through society.

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

The DAI decisions were a bit odd given that they were pretty much exact reverse of the ME3 visual design decisions where Ashley and Liara both got some augmentation from the earlier games and you had an invasion of Jersey Shore extras as well.

 

 

Here's a fun tangent: Did you know that when a guy comments on a girl's ass and says she's got a nice ass, he's actually subconciously and completely instinctually recognizing that she's got healthy birthing hips and is more likely to provide a safe and healthy birth?

 

 

I hate that sort of thing, ever since I found out why red lipstick is attractive it's the first thing I think of when I see it, which can be a bit off putting.

Why is red lipstick attractive?

[Keyrock]

While I'm not a huge fan of boob plate overall, I'm not bothered by it either.  I'm a heck of a lot less bothered by it than by obscenely gigantic (often spiky) pauldrons, I really hate that trend, but that's a personal pet peeve.  It really comes down to stylistic choice and whether it fits within the context of the game/setting.  For example, if your game has exaggerated, hyper sexualized characters (think Dragon Crown) then mail bikinis and boob plate fit perfectly.  Likewise, if you are making a game that takes place in a scorching hot desert or jungle environment, loincloths and skimpy outfits make perfect sense, since wearing heavy full armor would be rather uncomfortable, if not detrimental to your health.  On the other hand, if your game takes place in a temperate environment and the aesthetic looks to mimic real medieval armor (think Pillars) then a mail bikini would feel quite out of place in a game like that.

[GhoulishVisage]

Why is red lipstick attractive?

 

My personal theory, completely unsupported by anything, is that it's because red is the colour of arousal.

An aroused person often looks flushed and pink. Red cosmetics, such as blushes and lipsticks send subconscious messages to our brains that we should find this attractive.

[Malcador]

" <--- Annoying as they are; I'd take a SJW over a nazi."

 

Same **** different pile.

No way, Nazis were much better dressers.

[Hurlshort]

Yes, lets compare a group that actively engage in genocide to a bunch of weirdos who like to type in caps on twitter.  

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

 

Why is red lipstick attractive?

 

 

My personal theory, completely unsupported by anything, is that it's because red is the colour of arousal.

An aroused person often looks flushed and pink. Red cosmetics, such as blushes and lipsticks send subconscious messages to our brains that we should find this attractive.

I guess, but a lot of women who can't pull off red lipstick end up looking creepy to me, rather than arousing.

[Meshugger]

Yes, lets compare a group that actively engage in genocide to a bunch of weirdos who like to type in caps on twitter.  

 

 

Oh please. If SJWs had the fashion sense like this, we would be in real trouble.

[GhoulishVisage]

I guess, but a lot of women who can't pull off red lipstick end up looking creepy to me, rather than arousing.

I've never really seen the appeal of bright red lipstick myself, but red is generally the universal color of physical and romantic attraction.

 

Edited May 28, 2015 by GhoulishVisage

[Keyrock]

 

Yes, lets compare a group that actively engage in genocide to a bunch of weirdos who like to type in caps on twitter.  

 

 

Oh please. If SJWs had the fashion sense like this, we would be in real trouble.

 

I'm Polish, my homeland got freakin' obliterated by Nazis and there are plenty of people in my family a generation or two ago that directly greatly suffered and/or died as a result of Nazis, and even I will admit that their uniforms were freakin' magnificent.  I suppose that if you're going to be an evil scumbag, you might as well be a fabulously dressed evil scumbag.

 

That said, Nazis got nothing on Polish Winged Hussars in the fabulous military outfit department.

Edited May 28, 2015 by Keyrock

[Meshugger]

 

 

Yes, lets compare a group that actively engage in genocide to a bunch of weirdos who like to type in caps on twitter.  

 

 

Oh please. If SJWs had the fashion sense like this, we would be in real trouble.

 

I'm Polish, my homeland got freakin' obliterated by Nazis and there are plenty of people in my family a generation or two ago that directly greatly suffered and/or died as a result of Nazis, and even I will admit that their uniforms were freakin' magnificent.  I suppose that if you're going to be an evil scumbag, you might as well be a fabulously dressed evil scumbag.

 

That said, Nazis got nothing on Polish Winged Hussars in the fabulous military outfit department.

 

 

Daym, what fabolous as ****. Whatever happened, Poland?