Meshugger Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 I am surprised by how many people who have taken this test ended up as left-of-centre on "Collectivism". Might there be some sort of bias in the test? Also, all Swedes who have taken the test this far have achieved -100% on "Tribalism". I guess that makes clear the point that the test was made with one culture in mind, other cultures might be off the charts on some of the scales. Well from what i understand about Sweden, the self-hatred of the politicans atleast, is that there are no "swedes" to begin with. Just some barbarians and the rest is imported from other cultures. Stuff like that is political suicide most other countries. Just like there are not any "Americans", right? Are you surprised somehow that how the swedish intelligentia see themselves is different compared to in other countries? Just check the political climate in, well Czech Republic for example. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Objectivist Libertarian Total-Isolationist Cosmopolitan Moderate AWESOME Collectivism score: -100% **** OFF COMMIE Authoritarianism score: -67% **** OFF NAZI Internationalism score: -100% **** YOU Tribalism score: -17% **** YEAH Liberalism score: 0% **** OFF PINKO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nTUq8r-RGdM Now that's a mouthful. Fixed it for you. Nuff said! "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 I am surprised by how many people who have taken this test ended up as left-of-centre on "Collectivism". Might there be some sort of bias in the test? Also, all Swedes who have taken the test this far have achieved -100% on "Tribalism". I guess that makes clear the point that the test was made with one culture in mind, other cultures might be off the charts on some of the scales. So far except Shady & Leferd all the Americans who have taken it have rung the libertarian or ant-government bell on at least one part of the test. It will be interesting to see if that trend continues. Maybe there is hope for us yet! 1 "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Libertarian-Socialist. Now THATS a contradiction! Nope. The word "libertarian" actually originates with a socialist when he was describing himself. To quote Abraham Lincoln "How many legs does a dog have if you call it's tail a leg? Four, calling a tail a leg doesn't make it one." "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Shallow Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Humanist Liberal Collectivism score: -83%Authoritarianism score: -100%Internationalism score: -100%Tribalism score: -67%Liberalism score: 33% Objectivism is the one label up there I think really doesn't fit me, not believing in morality or purpose is a pretty big deal breaker. Edited November 29, 2014 by Shallow
Namutree Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Objectivist Anarchist Total-Isolationist Humanist Liberal Collectivism score: -83% Authoritarianism score: -100% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: -67% Liberalism score: 33% Objectivism is the one label up there I think really doesn't fit me, not believing in morality or purpose is a pretty big deal breaker. Objectivism believe in morality and purpose. So, what are you talking about? "Good thing I don't heal my characters or they'd be really hurt." Is not something I should ever be thinking. I use blue text when I'm being sarcastic.
Tale Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Centrist Moderate Collectivism score: 0% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: 0% Tribalism score: 0% Liberalism score: 0% What an odd name for "picked maybe on everything without reading it." "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Vaeliorin Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) You are a: Right-Leaning Libertarian Cosmopolitan Progressive Collectivism score: -33% Authoritarianism score: -67% Internationalism score: 0% Tribalism score: -17% Liberalism score: 50% While I object to being called a progressive (and I'd hardly call myself cosmopolitan), I'd tend to agree with Right-Leaning Libertarian. Edited November 29, 2014 by Vaeliorin
Meshugger Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Centrist Moderate Collectivism score: 0% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: 0% Tribalism score: 0% Liberalism score: 0% What an odd name for "picked maybe on everything without reading it." Congratulations. You are hated by everyone, and loved by no one. Politically speaking. 1 "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Oerwinde Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Objectivist Libertarian Total-Isolationist Cosmopolitan Moderate Collectivism score: -100% Authoritarianism score: -67% Internationalism score: -100% Tribalism score: -17% Liberalism score: 0% Now that's a mouthful. How did a libertarian get a 0 on liberalism? Well, as Gorgon put it, there are a lot of questions where yes or no make poor answers. There is a lot of "It depends" in those questions. I like this survey better:http://www.isidewith.com/ if you click "choose another stance" they give you all the "it depends" options and does a fair job of tallying them. The only problem is it is very US centric so the folks in Europe might not find it that interesting. Parties you side with... 82% Green Party on foreign policy, social, environmental, and healthcare issues. 79% Democrats on environmental, healthcare, economic, and social issues. 69% Libertarians on immigration, foreign policy, and social issues. 59% Socialist on social, environmental, and foreign policy issues. 36% Republicans on immigration and environmental issues. 28% Constitution Party on immigration issues. 28% Conservative Party on immigration issues. I'm guessing me siding with the Republicans on environmental issues was when I voted that private enterprise should be incentivised to develop clean energy. The area between the balls and the butt is a hotbed of terrorist activity.
Shallow Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Objectivism believe in morality and purpose. So, what are you talking about? Was saying I didn't believe in those things.
Leferd Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Communist Authoritarian Multilateralist Cosmopolitan Liberal Collectivism score: 100% Authoritarianism score: 67% Internationalism score: 67% Tribalism score: -33% Liberalism score: 33% First time I've ever been labeled as a cosmopolitan commie. On www.isidewith.com I got: 89% Democrat 87% Green 68% Socialist 59% Libertarian 25% Constitution 21% Conservative 18% Republican I suppose I really shouldn't vote Republican ever. "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 You are a: Communist Authoritarian Multilateralist Cosmopolitan Liberal Collectivism score: 100% Authoritarianism score: 67% Internationalism score: 67% Tribalism score: -33% Liberalism score: 33% First time I've ever been labeled as a cosmopolitan commie. On www.isidewith.com I got: 89% Democrat 87% Green 68% Socialist 59% Libertarian 25% Constitution 21% Conservative 18% Republican I suppose I really shouldn't vote Republican ever. You live in California. You might as well spit on a wildfire as vote for a Republican for all the good it will do there. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Darkpriest Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Hmm the other test would be: 66% Conservative Party on domestic policy, social, and environmental issues 62% Republicans on economic, social, and environmental issues. 62% Libertarianson economic, immigration, and healthcare issues. 59% Democrats on domestic policy and immigration issues. 57% Constitution Partyon social and environmental issues. 43% Green Party on domestic policy and healthcare issues. 6% Socialist no major issues Well I knew I am not a socialists and that each side has some merit on various problems, I guess there is just no party called "Common Sense". The problem is always with the extremists of either political view or simply some various retards spoutng some stupid BS. Edited November 29, 2014 by Darkpriest
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 On isidewith.com I got: 90% Libertarians 88% Constitution Party 86% Conservative Party 80% Republicans 39% Democrats 24% Green Party 10% Socialist I wonder what question I aligned with the socialists on? I must have clicked that one wrong. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Hmm the other test would be: http://www.isidewith.com/ Click "Choose another stance" for more answer choices. There is a link to expand the questions on each topic after the last question. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Valsuelm Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) I wonder what question I aligned with the socialists on? I must have clicked that one wrong. These tests have about as much merit as your average 'purity test'. They're limited by the box the designer(s) of the test think in, and I've yet to see one that isn't done in the context of the indoctrinated perceptions of mass media and bought propaganda. Generally it's a polarized box, and thus generally serves to polarize. For anyone with a working brain the majority of the questions are not black and white issues, nor yes/no/maybes. Nor does a 'maybe' make you a 'centrist'. The issues they touch on more often than not have a great deal more complexity than the question encompasses, and/or they simply rely on a false perception that's perpetrated in the mass media that makes the question foundationless, irrational, or unreasonable in an informed and truly thinking mind. Edited November 29, 2014 by Valsuelm
Zoraptor Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Heh on that US one, I got Green (91%) on everything except environmental issues, where I was a Republican (pro offshore drilling, no subsidies for wind power, no subsidies for truck conversions did that I guess). I also got 88% Democrat and I'd never have picked that as an outsider looking in, couldn't see myself voting for either main US party, except perhaps to spite the other. Also, all Swedes who have taken the test this far have achieved -100% on "Tribalism". I guess that makes clear the point that the test was made with one culture in mind, other cultures might be off the charts on some of the scales. There's inevitably a big author/ question bias in these things. For example, Political Compass has me nowhere near any NZ political party (I'm way at the lower left) while the local version of VoteCompass has me pretty much spot on Labour. That is mainly due to better targeted questions on local issues and topics like capital gains tax and raising superannuation ages. I don't like the idea of people taking these tests seriously though, precisely due to that bias. It'd be far too easy to either game them as a political party or for the authors to write them with a(n un)conscious bias to direct people towards one party or another.
Keyrock Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Collectivism score: 33% Authoritarianism score: 0% Internationalism score: 0% Tribalism score: -50% Liberalism score: 33% I had a lot of maybe answers, probably a third. On many of those I leaned one way, but not strongly enough to give a yes or a no. Edited November 29, 2014 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Bartimaeus Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) (edit) Retaking the "isidewith" quiz, since Opera didn't render it right and I missed a big section of the quiz. Edited November 29, 2014 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
HoonDing Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Collectivism score: 0%Authoritarianism score: 0%Internationalism score: -33%Tribalism score: 0%Liberalism score: 0% Clicked Yes everytime The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Keyrock Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) My results from www.isidewith.com" 95%Democrats on environmental, social, healthcare, foreign policy, domestic policy, economic, immigration, and education issues. 92%Green Party on environmental, healthcare, social, foreign policy, domestic policy, immigration, and education issues. 83%Libertarians on healthcare, domestic policy, social, foreign policy, economic, and immigration issues. 63%Socialist on environmental issues. 37%Republicans on economic issues. I guess I'm still a Democrat, even if I have lost all faith in the party. The results are what I expected. I'm liberal on environmental issues, conservative on fiscal issues, and moderate leaning liberal on the majority of other issues. Edited November 29, 2014 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks
Guard Dog Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 I wonder what question I aligned with the socialists on? I must have clicked that one wrong. These tests have about as much merit as your average 'purity test'. They're limited by the box the designer(s) of the test think in, and I've yet to see one that isn't done in the context of the indoctrinated perceptions of mass media and bought propaganda. Generally it's a polarized box, and thus generally serves to polarize. For anyone with a working brain the majority of the questions are not black and white issues, nor yes/no/maybes. Nor does a 'maybe' make you a 'centrist'. The issues they touch on more often than not have a great deal more complexity than the question encompasses, and/or they simply rely on a false perception that's perpetrated in the mass media that makes the question foundationless, irrational, or unreasonable in an informed and truly thinking mind. Well, these really are for entertainment purposes only. If anyone needs a quiz to tell them who they should vote for they really should do the world a favor and stay home on election day. "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Bartimaeus Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 (edited) Interesting: fairly different from the previous attempt, where I missed half of the questions and didn't specify importance of the answers for any of them. Edited November 29, 2014 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
Woldan Posted November 29, 2014 Posted November 29, 2014 Right-Leaning Libertarian Non-Interventionist Moderate Collectivism score: -17% Authoritarianism score: -67% Internationalism score: -33% Tribalism score: 0% Liberalism score: 0% HAH! I gazed at the dead, and for one dark moment I saw a banquet.
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