$4 million stretch goal: Some kind of Co-op(stronghold defense/side-stories)

[theADOLESCENT]

I was thinking that for a stretch goal, we could have some sort of co-op, NOT involving the main story. This co-op would either take place in short side stories or possibly a "wave" based game involving the stronghold.

 

You're friend would enter your stronghold, help you prepare, and then the both, or 4 of you would fend off waves of enemies from the stronghold. Rewards could possibly include upgrading your stronghold or something else.

 

It could either user your stronghold from the main story ( I like), or just have a stronghold that you defend (not necessarily in main game).

 

I really like this idea since it doesn't change the single player at all and it gives us an opportunity to play with our friends!

 

Feel free to comment on whether you like it or not, or if you have suggestions.

Edited October 16, 2012 by theADOLESCENT

[bronzepoem]

A co-op limited in mega dungeon.

A PVP limited in a arena.(Like a NWN mod)

 

 

OK, I think we need to search some cover...

[Malkaven]

I wouldn't mind this or something like Witcher 2 where your accomplishments in the arena get posted on a board.

[theADOLESCENT]

Haha, I thought people would like this idea. Anyone mind saying why they don't like it?

[AwesomeOcelot]

Not enough money, would need to be $5m. Due to their fast metabolisms, the new programmers chained at the Obsidian office would require an unimaginable quantity of food, and they only eat whale and other endangered species.

Edited October 16, 2012 by AwesomeOcelot

[theADOLESCENT]

Not enough money, would need to be $5m.

 

You think so? Even for something like stronghold defense?

[chisled2bone]

personally i am looking forward to a single player campaign that focuses on good story elements and doesnt have resources going towards co-op, especially with limited resources. I would be fine if co-op was in the expansion or perhaps a sequel, but for this i am looking forward to what it is i guess.

[JayDGee]

a wave assault mode is always welcome along with new game + modes. cant think of a game that was made worse by including them.

[AwesomeOcelot]

Not enough money, would need to be $5m.

 

You think so? Even for something like stronghold defense?

 

Any multiplayer game that's any good takes a lot of time balancing, adding matchmaking, and dedicated server. If the players can't synergise and cooperate, what's the point? That would be a hell of a lot of work requiring quite a few more salaries.

[Darth Trethon]

All forms of multiplayer only degrade the game......this plague has already destroyed countless games and franchises. NOT this one.....keep that garbage out of PE.

[Ieo]

No. Lots of other threads about MP/co-op, you should read them.

 

Related interviews and dev posts linked in sig, which all boil down to: It's too much work and money for very little gain and no actual content while historically after people ask for a co-op experience, it's very rarely used after game ship.

 

It's impossible to "limit" the development of MP to a certain area in the core game because all the extra work in implementation and debugging would still have to happen as if MP was a part of the game engine--i.e. it's not "less" work at all.

 

Then it's a bad idea to include it from ground up in a sequel because the SP content would suffer (yes, there's dev cite in sig), unless there's a lot of money to throw at the whole thing, which make it a different beast from the original.

[Hornet85]

The time and money is certainly a concern. Lets be honest, it takes time to make stuff. And I don't think many backers wish to see the project being delay just to implement these additional feature which is a whole new thing for the reasons mentioned by others (balancing, the infrastructure to host servers, etc etc.)

 

If they release this as an expansion pack, I have absolutely no problem with it. In fact I will be excited. But lets have the complete PE first which is what this project started out as. Extra stuff can always come later.

[Tale]

I'm against tacking on multiplayer and I'm also against tacked on minigames. This idea seems to hit both squarely.

 

Maybe a sequel could have a more comprehensive co-op multiplayer, but I don't see it making this game.

[Catharsis]

I'd like to see Persistant Worlds if it's possible.

[Amentep]

No interest in a multi-player aspects of the game.

 

I'm not going to be upset if they were to include it and could make it work without effecting the single player game....but I don't think they can. This project wasn't designed from the beginning to feature multi-player and trying to add it on at this point would be courting disaster, IMO.

[jfdsfj89s7]

At this point any "extra" money I'd rather go to making the world and promises they already have more fleshed out rather than making more promises.

[Piccolo]

I really wish people would stop asking for multiplayer.

 

The developers have said repeatedly that they want to focus on making the best single player experience possible. Even with extra funds, multiplayer is a distraction from that goal.

 

I think that's how games should be in general personally - either exclusively single player, or exclusively multiplayer - not both.

[BTA51]

I don't like CO-OP in any games, and NWN:s RP-servers is the only RP-game I have enjoyed any kind of multiplayer in. I want a good single-player game, that's the only thing I'm interested in.

[Hassat Hunter]

Not just co-op, but asking co-op UNIQUE content (so taking them time to make stuff for that they could make for all of us).

 

You, sir, are asking the worst of the worst :/

[theADOLESCENT]

Sorry, didn't know there were so many posts on it. I don't necessarily have the most time in the world. I thought it was a good idea and figured I'd make a poll about it asap since this is the last day in kickstarter.

[wbn]

Yes, it does indeed sound appalling to me!

[Monte Carlo]

I was thinking that for a stretch goal, we could have some sort of co-op, NOT involving the main story. This co-op would either take place in short side stories or possibly a "wave" based game involving the stronghold.

 

You're friend would enter your stronghold, help you prepare, and then the both, or 4 of you would fend off waves of enemies from the stronghold. Rewards could possibly include upgrading your stronghold or something else.

 

It could either user your stronghold from the main story ( I like), or just have a stronghold that you defend (not necessarily in main game).

 

I really like this idea since it doesn't change the single player at all and it gives us an opportunity to play with our friends!

 

Feel free to comment on whether you like it or not, or if you have suggestions.

 

Excellent. A solid, palpable 'C', verging on C+ if you hadn't used such an obvious forum name. Keep at it, young padowan,

[firstarioch]

I would like full voiceovers for characters like in Dragon Age...

not co -op ...it nonsense... Lets enhance single player experience...not multiplayer....

If anyone wants that i suggest go play MMO ...there are plenty where you can co-op with your buddies...

but not here...

[theADOLESCENT]

I was thinking that for a stretch goal, we could have some sort of co-op, NOT involving the main story. This co-op would either take place in short side stories or possibly a "wave" based game involving the stronghold.

 

You're friend would enter your stronghold, help you prepare, and then the both, or 4 of you would fend off waves of enemies from the stronghold. Rewards could possibly include upgrading your stronghold or something else.

 

It could either user your stronghold from the main story ( I like), or just have a stronghold that you defend (not necessarily in main game).

 

I really like this idea since it doesn't change the single player at all and it gives us an opportunity to play with our friends!

 

Feel free to comment on whether you like it or not, or if you have suggestions.

 

Excellent. A solid, palpable 'C', verging on C+ if you hadn't used such an obvious forum name. Keep at it, young padowan,

 

It's a name I made about 6 years ago, I'm 21 now. But you're very clever.

 

If people don't like the idea of multiplayer, that's totally fine. It's an idea I thought would be fun and while I have read a lot of the updates on P:E, I haven't read about the "multiplayer takes away from single player" articles.

 

If I have more free time, I'll be sure to check them out.

[Clammo]

Firstarioch, full voice overs are expensive as hell, it's not going to happen. When DA was released and people were asking why the protagonist wasn't voiced Georg Zoeller (or however you spell his name), one of the then Bioware devs, pointed out that the game would be half as long if they had to pony up the cash for that. And then, sadly, we got DA2..........

 

Thankfully Obsidian have repeatedly said no multiplayer and no co-op, this is a single player experience and their efforts are all going into this.

Edited October 16, 2012 by Clammo