sorophx Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 ugh, I didn't even have a safe house. got through 80 hours of play without one and did fine Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enoch Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 P.S. I hear sometimes he can be bugged, tho. Oh, and @ Thorton_AP, there's the one quest that uses tin cans...so I stick those in a container too. lol. If it's a repair quest, I just do it with a repair skill, or move on. I think it's cool that tin cans can be used in a quest or recipies and stuff, but there's enough of them that I won't bother hoarding them. At the same time, I have no issues skipping a quest that has me do stuff like that if it's not something my character is interested in doing. Same here. Any quest that depends on gathering samples of the 87 different flavors of shelf-clutter in the gameworld is one that I ignore entirely. I've been keeping my stuff in the NoVac motel room. Guns in the footlocker, Ammo/explosives in the safe, apparel in the cabinet, and everything else in the fridge. It's close to a fast travel point and to a merchant. I don't do much crafting (little more than recycling energy ammo), so the only thing it's missing is a fresh water source. I usually stop for a drink at Helios One after spending a night there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I use Novac as well. It has two crafting benches nearby too. Making ammo is fun for me in a weird sort of way too And I do the same organization with my weapons and whatnot. Though I keep guns and ammo together. When I return to base to rearm, a bit of me feels like the Terminator or something (hey he was in a hotel room too! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) I haven't seen any repair quests that can't be rigged up without parts at a high enough repair skill, so that's what I do. Boomers quest, the food processor, the robot (which uses science or repair), elevators and the like. I think Obsids did a good job of making every skill useful in the game depending on style. The one exception is Survival. If Hardcore were more hardcore in terms of preparing food, it would be more important. As it is, you don't ever need food and the best food I've come accross, something Rose's Wasteland Omelet, requires too much stuff. I don't mind doing some WoW style gathering, but carrying around tons of preware food to make stuff that could potentially make the game marginally easier just doesn't do it for me. Edited November 11, 2010 by Cantousent Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorton_AP Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 higher Survival's biggest benefit IMO is getting more out of the food you eat (more satiation, more HP, etc). On hardcore I usually eat about 10 different types of food which can give me some absurd health regen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 There's no doubt that it can be made to work for you. I just see it as not having as high an effort to benefit ratio. I mean, yeah, eat one of those deathclaw omelets and you're regenerating some serious health. That's true even with a modest Survival, which is what I have. I tell you what, if survival made you need *significantly* less water, I might take it so I didn't have to haul around as much water or fast travel back to a water source as often. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 To be honest, after my first character, I've never ever added any skillpoints to my survival skill. It just wasn't needed, even on hardcore mode. I find so much food and water, that it really is no problem, if one gecko steak doesn't fill up my food and H20 bar 100%. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 My first character was survival, too. It's pretty much only useful for animal related perks. There's way too much food to scavenge as it is. You'll get more meat just by killing random creatures that cross your path than you'll ever need to eat. Of course, this does make it useful if you're intending to make profit selling food. I think it does increase value. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 I use Novac as well. It has two crafting benches nearby too. Making ammo is fun for me in a weird sort of way too And I do the same organization with my weapons and whatnot. Though I keep guns and ammo together. When I return to base to rearm, a bit of me feels like the Terminator or something (hey he was in a hotel room too! ) just posting to say this is an awesome terminator reference. I totally understood what you meant immediately. Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) I think Survival's mainly for a certain type of player who really enjoys going out and gathering stuff. Survival is not *needed*, just like other skills aren't needed either. My second character raised it up to the 80s or so. The benefits of some of the food items can be very good, especially at higher levels, which is probably the main draw. It's a very good alternative to medicine, with some alternative uses as well. Only thing is that I wish it had gotten some more use in dialogues, where Medicine shines a lot more in comparison. But yeah, I'm not really a gatherer per say so I found the addition of Survival to be not that exciting overall unfortunately. Edited November 11, 2010 by Starwars Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 P.S. I hear sometimes he can be bugged, tho. Oh, and @ Thorton_AP, there's the one quest that uses tin cans...so I stick those in a container too. lol. If it's a repair quest, I just do it with a repair skill, or move on. I think it's cool that tin cans can be used in a quest or recipies and stuff, but there's enough of them that I won't bother hoarding them. At the same time, I have no issues skipping a quest that has me do stuff like that if it's not something my character is interested in doing. It was a Contreras related side quest from that guy who stands near the bench of the robot-run shop. I wanted This Machine and the non-tin can option w/Isaac required 80 in either speech or barter. And I also use Novac hotel as my storage. Lucky38 seems like too much trouble to get to, and all I need is 3-4 containers. It feels more private (hehe) and like it's "mine" too. Plus I didn't side with House and I think eventually you can't send your guys to 38 if you go against him? Also, am curious...the wiki mentions that waiting/fired companions in the Lucky 38 will sometimes "take" food items away, eg such items disappear. Occasionally from their inventory, too, if you have them carry such stuff for you. Has anyone actually noticed this happen? Wonder if it's a bug or by design. Re:survival - I am a packrat and often like alchemy in other games, but Survival/cooking has no motivation for me even so. There's nothing from it I'd want or need. So I pick herbs (early on) if I run by it and sell them, but that's it. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serrano Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 (edited) I thought that Cass' inventory had some extra (as in any at all) empty wisky bottles and fewer full ones but I assumed it was my imagination. Edited November 11, 2010 by Serrano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Tin cans are so common that there's at least one place you can go to that has 100 cans by itself. You don't really need to stockpile. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 If you didn't have the option to have him join you, are you sure you did the quest right? I wasn't aware he cared about your NCR rep. Smiling troublemaker is apparently a positive reputation. Boone definitely cares about your NCR rep. But I think you have to get to the 'you are hated' level before he starts warning you. Smiling Troublemaker isn't an issue tho. He'll also confront you if you kill too many NCR soldiers, w/the usual confrontation options. Gorgon, sounds like Boone recruit quest might be bugged. As long as you found the 'evidence' and used the right person, aren't hated by NCR etc., he should be willing to join. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Is there a use for all the radioactive rockets in Novac, beyond using them as Rock-It-Launcher ammo? The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyCrimson Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Tin cans are so common that there's at least one place you can go to that has 100 cans by itself. You don't really need to stockpile. I know that, but when I start a new game, since I know of the quest, I may as well pick them early on and then I don't have to think about it later. “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orchomene Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Is there a use for all the radioactive rockets in Novac, beyond using them as Rock-It-Launcher ammo? As an alternative fuel for some rocket in an early quest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Is there a use for all the radioactive rockets in Novac, beyond using them as Rock-It-Launcher ammo? As an alternative fuel for some rocket in an early quest. That and as gifts to kids later on in the game. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sorophx Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 That and as gifts to kids later on in the game. haha, this is just pure evil! I just remembered there was a named item, some toy truck. I couldn't figure out what it was for. Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tale Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 As long as they don't drink it, they'll be fine. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 Some guy rambles about homosexuality in New Vegas: http://news.filefront.com/homosexuality-an...-in-gay-heaven/ Even though the article is a bit, yeah... rambling, I do agree with what he says. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cantousent Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 It's a very good alternative to medicine, with some alternative uses as well. Only thing is that I wish it had gotten some more use in dialogues, where Medicine shines a lot more in comparison. This is really where I was going before. It's not that I'm 'dissing' survival. It's just that it doesn't seem to have much of an effect outside of crafting. On the other hand, there is at least... one place? Maybe more? where I could use survival. Fionavar's Holliday Wishes to all members of our online community: Happy Holidays Join the revelry at the Obsidian Plays channel:Obsidian Plays Remembering tarna, Phosphor, Metadigital, and Visceris. Drink mead heartily in the halls of Valhalla, my friends! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starwars Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 There is one Survival check when you talk to the kid at Nellis about the Boomer's history (gains you some fame with them) but that's all I can remember. Listen to my home-made recordings (some original songs, some not): http://www.youtube.c...low=grid&view=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted November 11, 2010 Share Posted November 11, 2010 The survival skill is pretty useless. I mean who would want to hamster 5 different out of the way items just to be able to cook a steak that does the same thing as a stimpack. If I craft something I want it to go boom, or maintain weapons. Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted November 12, 2010 Share Posted November 12, 2010 Some guy rambles about homosexuality in New Vegas: http://news.filefront.com/homosexuality-an...-in-gay-heaven/ Even though the article is a bit, yeah... rambling, I do agree with what he says. That article makes some great points. Leave it to Obsidian to not handle this stuff like a 12-year old boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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