mant2si Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Don't get me wrong but 1% is simple to low, even on solo this ability is very hard to proc, but of-course you can test it by yourself :D Solo PotD builds: The Glanfathan Soul Hunter (Neutral seer. Dominate and manipulate your enemies), Harbinger of Doom (Dark shaman. Burn and sacrifice, yourself and enemies for Skaen sake)
Haplok Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Why Scepters? Without a melee weapon you miss on Carnage damage, no?
Somnium_Meum Posted September 1, 2018 Posted September 1, 2018 Why Scepters? Without a melee weapon you miss on Carnage damage, no? Scepters have modal that makes you do more damage at cost of tiny amount of health. Full attacks with scepters would damage the character twice, which drastically increases proc chance on Brilliant. When it procs it would give you enough resources to spam full attacks. It's pretty self-reinforcing
mosspit Posted September 1, 2018 Author Posted September 1, 2018 (edited) Guess the idea is for Destructive Channeling to deal self dmg to trigger those 1% proc. Brilliant Cloak isn't relied upon as this Brute can function even without it, but Brilliant proc would put it into overdrive .... I think the point is the builds can't reliably proc it. Even with your setup, you can't control that Brilliance (or the other 1% triggers) would proc 3 times in 1 encounter, or you would have done 3 encounters in a row and not experience a single proc. The approach is more like "if it happens, it happens". And this should not be the direction they are taking to control the effects. I really don't want to see a 0.3% trigger.... Edited September 1, 2018 by mosspit 1
Metaturtle Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 So many capes. D: I want a bit more variance with belts and other weapon types like xbows/arbalest. Or maybe since they are releasing skaen's challenge a new torch unique perhaps with a unique modal ( I can dream ok ). 1 Filthy Chanter Main
dunehunter Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) - nerf to dual wielding: well done. Could be better but i like it ( as other said a full dmg roll for 2h or 1h could be better, but still...). Anyway nothing "major", if you are a rouge you will never actually feel it. - new spells: they had to add backers spell at some point. I like them from reading the descripion, thumbs up to the authors. - new equips/weapon: brillace mantle could be the most promising one. Basically useful for solo play, in particular to martial classes ( finally a way to get back some resources in longer fights).i like much also the badass axe, in particular the requirement of 25 str. Nive touch. -ui enanchments: good. Atm is still possible to enchant an itme with 2 property of the same branch, obviuosly a bug Overall great improvements. The dual wielding nerf hurt non-rogue classes a lot more, since the penalty is calculated additively, it can be easily be compensated by rogue's huge damage bonus. But it really isolates other classes from dual wielding... Some classes like pure fighter, will find that DW Full attacks very weak even weaker than autoattacks because he doesn't have much passive damage bonus. The more I ponder this new mechanism, the more I think it is a bad decision because: 1) rogue will still spam full attacks with dual wielding because like you said they will never feel it. 2) Fighter, Paladin, and even barb and monk, if pure classed, will have to give up dual wielding for full attacks because it sucks a lot... Edited September 2, 2018 by dunehunter 1
InsaneCommander Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 So many capes. D: I want a bit more variance with belts and other weapon types like xbows/arbalest. Or maybe since they are releasing skaen's challenge a new torch unique perhaps with a unique modal ( I can dream ok ). Good idea. Even if you don't play with Skaen's challenge, it'd be cool to have another special item that illuminates because it's very satisfying to explore the dark environments.
Dr <3 Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 @dunehunter Ok is a nerf, but -30% can't move full attacks from "OP" to "suck a lot". Is weaker then before: yes. Suck a lot: you still do more dmg than full attacks with 2H or single handed. I agree that is a nerf stronger for non-rogue classes, but is not -75% dmg. 1
TheWeaver Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Do we know yet if the new items will only be available in newly created games (as was the case with Essence Interrupter) or will anyone be able to pick them up?
Boeroer Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) But don't forget the double inversion that turns the "official" -35% into "real" -55%. It is pretty severe. Not as bad as a graze, but still bad. If you graze with a Full Attack then: enemy laughs and says he fears your misses more. 1% proc chance is laughable. I think some people don't understand how the math behind it works. They think that you will have 100% proc chance after 100 hits. Or 50% proc chance with 50 hits. That's not the case. Edited September 2, 2018 by Boeroer 3 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
mosspit Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 Do we know yet if the new items will only be available in newly created games (as was the case with Essence Interrupter) or will anyone be able to pick them up? I was able to obtain the Outworn Buckler from the location of acquisition, and I found Amra in the inventory of the specific merchant using an old save file. So the implementation of the items should be applied retrospectively. 2
lorddarkflare Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Melee should be stronger, not weaker (which goes for mobs as well). The two weapon imbalance issue was an opportunity to make other melee styles better, but instead the devs just widened the performance issue between spells and melee. Honestly I rather spells get nerfed. That already needed to happen anyway, and doubly so now that dual-wielding is weaker.
DozingDragon Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) But don't forget the double inversion that turns the "official" -35% into "real" -55%. It is pretty severe. Not as bad as a graze, but still bad. If you graze with a Full Attack then: enemy laughs and says he fears your misses more. 1% proc chance is laughable. I think some people don't understand how the math behind it works. They think that you will have 100% proc chance after 100 hits. Or 50% proc chance with 50 hits. That's not the case. Eh, is it that laughable when it comes alongside two other enchantments that are more easily deployed? It seems pretty nice when viewed in conjunction with the other two enchantments that are readily accessible. Edited September 2, 2018 by DozingDragon
Boeroer Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) I didn't say the item was laughable. I said 1% proc chance is laughable. Take away "Mind over Matter" and the usefulness of the cape wouldn't suffer much. It's not that being Brilliant for a short time will turn you into an invincible combatant. It's nice to have +5 INT, +1 PL and get some resource points back (what by the way is only useful for certain classes that have non-replenishable resources in the first place), but it's not nice if you can not control it at all an if it might happen thrice per playthrough (hyperbole). A better approach would be to make the proc chance higher and tune down the other enchantments if the overall power of the cape would be too high then. Edited September 2, 2018 by Boeroer 3 Deadfire Community Patch: Nexus Mods
mosspit Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 Added a new neck accessory Cog of Cohh. Found it by chance when defeating the Giant Grub as part of the "Corentt of Waves" storyline.
house2fly Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Any chance of a screenshot? I found a description which has interesting implications for its use: This relic resembles a formal badge or insignia taken from military regalia, though its symbol isn't associated with any known faction. Age and wear evident in the metal would suggest that it is very old and has traveled far. The influence it exerts on a tightly-knit band of combatants implies that a knight or general of influence donned this as a charm to inspire their troops and keep them alert. Beyond what can be deduced of its power, the mystery of its origin endures.At a guess, Inspiration AOE with a limited range? Maybe an aura?
Manveru123 Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 There's a screenshot of each gear piece on the first page.
mosspit Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 Yeah as @Manveru123 kindly pointed out, I included in the first post. As well as, my thoughts on the accessory. It is not too bad. In fact, I am equipping it on Ydwin (mindstalker) in my current playthrough.
AndreaColombo Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Silly question, but does INT increase the AoE for these item-granted passive effects too? I'd expect so but can't remember and don't have the game handy. "Time is not your enemy. Forever is." — Fall-From-Grace, Planescape: Torment "It's the questions we can't answer that teach us the most. They teach us how to think. If you give a man an answer, all he gains is a little fact. But give him a question, and he'll look for his own answers." — Kvothe, The Wise Man's Fears My Deadfire mods: Brilliant Mod | Faster Deadfire | Deadfire Unnerfed | Helwalker Rekke | Permanent Per-Rest Bonuses | PoE Items for Deadfire | No Recyled Icons | Soul Charged Nautilus
mosspit Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 I did some basic testing. For Cog of Cohh's on kill effect, there doesn't seem to be any difference between a min int and max int wearer. The wearer needs to be about 3m from the ally who made the kill it seems. Regardless of int of the wearer For the Communal Carnage aura (and I think item effect auras in general), int does help to increase the AoE. The effect description also does state the distance, which will change in accordance to Int. 1
Ascaloth Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 Okay, anyone knows where the Shroud of the Phantasm (the Brilliant cape) can be found? I've been scouring Bekarna's Observatory for it, with no luck.
mosspit Posted September 2, 2018 Author Posted September 2, 2018 (edited) Seems like you would need 16 PER at the below location. Edited September 2, 2018 by mosspit 3
house2fly Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 I'd just like to voice my appreciation that they put these items in the game world to be found instead of adding them to stores to be bought. It feels much cooler to find a new ring in a dungeon or get a new necklace from a boss battle 1
InsaneCommander Posted September 2, 2018 Posted September 2, 2018 1% proc chance is laughable. Don't complain or they will nerf it to 0.1% 1
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