Katphood Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Fine, you lazy descendants of monkeys! I'll do it myself. Following the discussion at the E3 2018 thread, which games do you think have aged well and which ones haven't? The ones that have aged well in my opinion: -every single Legend of Zelda games except for Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, never liked that one. -Fallout 1,2, Tactics -C & C: Red Alert 1,2 <-aged well?! Pfft, I wish a single developer out there would have the guts to create something similar... -Lucas Arts Adventure games...you know, back then when Telltale hadn't taken a huge dump on adventure games yet with their so called 'choice driven adventure games!' -classic DOOM, Quake 1 & 2, Wolfenstein 3D(boy did I have fun replaying this on the PS3, had to collect every single Trophy!), Hexen 1& 2, Heretic 1(Yes, there was a Heretic II but nobody liked it ) -pretty much every Mario Kart and Mario platformer game ever released -Final Fight, Golden Axe, Streets of Rage, TMNT: Turtles in Time, TMNT The Arcade Game and many other awesome beat em up games that I miss a lot -Street Fighter II: Turbo, Killer Instinct, Mortal Kombat I, II, III now let's get to the ugly ones... -Syndicate to me it felt like a real drag, don't know if you can mod the game to play any better but I tried it recently and couldn't get into it at all -Mafia...the shooting mechanics are simply...horrid! - Mega Man 1-6...it's just way too hard for me and there is simply nothing else there for me to appreciate. - Resident Evil 1, 2, 3...Nocturne...Dino Crisis and a whole lot of other survival horror games from the 90's because no matter how awesome those games were, the controls(combined with the fixed camera angles) are simply bad, don't know how we got around to playing them back then but nowadays I always choose the Easy difficulty setting. -OG Street Fighter II....once me and my brother played Turbo we couldn't go back to the classic, because it was soooooooo slllooooowwww -Assassin's Creed games...I think this one needs no explanation at all, funny thing is that it isn't a 'classic' game buy any means. ...and in case someone has a different opinion: Edited June 20, 2018 by Katphood 1 There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Chilloutman Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Mafia is still good, Unreal tournament is sitll great arena shooter 2 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
Lexx Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 I think Resident Evil 1 is still holding up quite good. Especially the remake anyway. Never had that much troubles with the controls and I played on PC even. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Katphood Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 The remake has refined controls, maybe that's why they decided to make the Resi remake a tad harder than the original. I wonder if the devs would have gone for a over the shoulder cam back in the 90's if they had the tech we have today. As for Mafia, the weapons have way too much kick. I didn't mind the realism at all, the driving was fun and it actually felt as if you are really driving a car, it created a sense of responsibility that felt rewarding. The shooting sections were not the same though. Recently the game reappeared on Steam so I might buy it and give it a whirl one of these days, the last time I finished the game was back in 2008. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
Malcador Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) Hard for an adventure game to age poorly, I guess the text parser ones may be more so than others but that's just the users being lazy even some 3D ones have aged ok for me. Actually, no, forgot games that can get into an unwinnable state, those have not aged well. Edited June 20, 2018 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Skazz Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 The first Majesty game. Maybe it's just me, but I think that's one of the rare games where I can hop into the game for an extended session every couple of months with no issues whatsoever. 1
Amentep Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 ...Tetris... I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man
Mamoulian War Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) All Infinity engine games, which allow to unlock higher resolutions even without mods. Tales of the Abyss. Final Fantasy VIII, IX and X. Quake 2-4, Unreal Tournament Classic, 2003, 2004, III. All Lucasfilm/LucasArts adventures after and including Monkey Island. C&C Red Alert. Warcraft II and III. Lands of Lore I. And many more, which do not cross my mind at the moment. Edit: typo. I meant FFVIII, because FFVII aged very badly. Edited June 20, 2018 by Mamoulian War Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Lexx Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 It's bit funny... today I like C&C Tiberian Sun way more than back in its release days. 3 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
the_dog_days Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Technically OG Xcom hasn't aged well graphically, but I've never heard anyone say they played Xcom because of how pretty it was. 1
Skazz Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Technically OG Xcom hasn't aged well graphically, but I've never heard anyone say they played Xcom because of how pretty it was. I liked replaying Realms on Amiga just for the pretty intro. Today, all I remember is that sequence, and I can't recall a thing about the game itself.
majestic Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 ...and in case someone has a different opinion: With the first Mega Man you might be right, that was still a little rough around the edges but Mega Man 2? That was one of the best games ever back then, and it still is. 1 No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering.
213374U Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Fine, you lazy descendants of monkeys! I'm getting a distinct Wing Commander vibe, here. Which incidentally, is a game (series) that hasn't aged too badly. Provided that you can tweak DOSBox to have it run at non-breakneck speed, of course. 1 - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
LadyCrimson Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 I only replay games I like enough to replay in spite of any possible "issues", so in that regard, "all of them." 1 “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Mamoulian War Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Fine, you lazy descendants of monkeys! I'm getting a distinct Wing Commander vibe, here. Which incidentally, is a game (series) that hasn't aged too badly. Provided that you can tweak DOSBox to have it run at non-breakneck speed, of course. Oh yeah, I have forgotten to mention these games. It is few years back, when I was playing it, and I can agree than WC3, 4, Prophecy and Privateer 2 are still looking pretty good, despite it's age. Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
Katphood Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 ...and in case someone has a different opinion: With the first Mega Man you might be right, that was still a little rough around the edges but Mega Man 2? That was one of the best games ever back then, and it still is. I bought the Mega Man Legacy Collection a while ago which has Mega Man 1-6. I'll give 2 another go someday. Maybe I'll like it this time around but as far as memory serves, I remember a lot of trial and error in thosr games which simply requires you to memorize the level layout and the enemy movements. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
evilcat Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 How old the game needs to be to be subject of aging, like 18+? Generally 2005 when games started to look decent, Homeworld, Bloodlines, NFS MW, With some resolution upgrade they already look fair enought.
Chilloutman Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 (edited) transport tycoon deluxe https://www.openttd.org/en/ Edited June 20, 2018 by Chilloutman 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
pmp10 Posted June 20, 2018 Posted June 20, 2018 Many strategy games and management sims. Jagged Alliance 2 would be the perfect example. A game so good it killed it's genre.
Katphood Posted June 20, 2018 Author Posted June 20, 2018 How old the game needs to be to be subject of aging, like 18+? Generally 2005 when games started to look decent, Homeworld, Bloodlines, NFS MW, With some resolution upgrade they already look fair enought. Yeah, I'd say games that are released no sooner than 2005 or so. There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone.
LadyCrimson Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 (edited) Graphics not being important to good gameplay is why games don't "age" like movies do, imo. You could have some games where the gameplay style itself becomes so outdated no one could play them anymore, like how many have difficulty with Shakespeare because of the writing/language style, but I get the feeling that wouldn't be very many yet. I mean, even Asteroids could still be fun for short bursts ... which outside of high-score obsessions are what games like that were designed for anyway. Also this: Many strategy games and management sims. Many of these types are even less dependent (than some other genres) on "visual immersion" to be great fun so yeah...I'd agree. Edited June 21, 2018 by LadyCrimson 1 “Things are as they are. Looking out into the universe at night, we make no comparisons between right and wrong stars, nor between well and badly arranged constellations.” – Alan Watts
Lexx Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 transport tycoon deluxe https://www.openttd.org/en/ OpenTTD is just so good. I still have my old save that I continue a little bit from time to time. Check out my oil processing plant. There's more cool locations, but... it's too many. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Gorth Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Technically OG Xcom hasn't aged well graphically, but I've never heard anyone say they played Xcom because of how pretty it was. X-Com3: Apocalypse has aged "decently". For me the only game to give Jagged Alliance 2 (which also carry its years "graciously") a serious run for its money and beat it in some areas (the use of terrain, especially destructible terrain as a tactical factor) “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein
Mamoulian War Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 The sad thing is, I've never play X-Com 3 Next GOG sale will probably convince me to buy it :D Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours
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