Volourn

"DA2 sold less than DA1" Sure, but it was also a lot less coslty to make so it was still highly profitable. "ME3 sold less than ME2" This simply is not true. "SWTOR was a massive financial failure" Doubtful. It is not as scucessful as EA hoeped but it sold well enough and iss till making money. It was likely profitable but not ehavily. If it was a financial failure they would have canceled it completed and not waste time working on it at all. EA isn't afraid to cancel/stop projects when they fail. "It's as simple as that. Whether you disagree with me or not, the numbers don't lie. BW has been making less and less money for EA on each iteration. SWTOR was so bad, EA can't even lie to its investors anymore. When DA3 fails to eclipse DA2's sales, they will be completely justified in tearing the studio apart." You are posting nonsense. If EA was thinking of tearing down BIo why do they keep naming various EA divisions BIO x. If they thought BIo was a doomed divisiuon they would be trying to get rid of all signs of them. Also, if DA2 and ME3 were such horrible failures like you try to pretend they are why are they making sequels to them? Taht doesn't make sense. "lso, Volourn, if you keep it up, I'm going to have to request proof that you don't have a previous history of working in Edmonton Canada. " You beg and demand all you want, I don't obey internet peons like yourself. My real life status is none of your bizness. Stop being such a wannabe stalker.

Or asian. Or white. Or Arab. The storm effect NJ and NY. NY itself has people from all races and culttures. Only a bigot would bring race into the discussion. Storms don't care who tehy target. Then again, I guess it was the white man's fault when that Earthquake devasted Japan a few eyars back. TSK, TSK.

They don't need no excuses for ME3. It was a good game. Not as good as the earlier MEs but pretty solid. For one thing, they have games with worse endings yet nobody whined about those. And, no, EA will not close down BIO because of ME3 'failing' to live up to some random poster's OPINION. Then again, people have predicting BIO's closing since their wear with Interplay a good 10+ years ago. That said, I am dissapointed that you are stuck playing a ghuman. Boooooooooo!!!!!

"We doing this? The whole hyperbole to prove a point without actually providing any kind of justification thing? Very well. " Not hyperbole. Just the truth on how I feel. loghain was merely adequate. Irencius was DA MAN.

"I thought Loghain far outdid Irenicus in terms of characterization and his justifications." You kiddin' right? Irencius is better than Loghain in every way. It's not even close. Loghain is probaly BIO's 4th worst main villain with onlym sou Medusa, KOTOR freakazoid, and Melissan being worse. I'd take the friggin' Archdemon over him and the thing was nothing but a monster. L0L

You hate the game so much you gonna play it again. That doesn't make sense. You remind me of a guy who played a game 7 times yet claimed to loathe it. One protests too much, I say. You won't catch me playing any game I claim is 'worst ever' again unless I tried it in secret and found it enjoyable. Certainly not to prove an unproveable point. I'll wait your DA2 4th Time Through Review. It'll be a doozy!

YWhy lie? That sentence is quite clearly in quotations. I use REAL quote marks not the FAKE internet cool kiddie speak quote boxes.

Stop being a crybaby.

"Skipping SoU?" Yeah. I want to continue with my OC character and SOU is meant for level 1 characters. And, yeah, I know, technically, HOTU is a continuing of the SOu character's story. *shrug* Plus,. I love HOTU and I find SOU supbar mixed up with some decent ideas.

"f you two like Dragon Age 2 so much, go play it again." I'll play what i want. "I was foolish to respond to people coming to this thread to defend Dragon Age 2 - I mean this is a thread that was created for its revilement." This thread is for everyone. It's not private. I guarantee you if I were to start a thread stating 'DA2 is awesome'; there be people - likely including you - charging right in to say it sucks. *shrugs* "You coming here and trying to argue otherwise just shows your trollish or stubborn nature, thinking that anyone who dislikes Dragon Age 2 is just a 'hater', 'nerd', 'somebody who doesn't read an intelligent webcomic like me' or something." As opposed to you and your rude behaviour of stating anyone who likes DA2 is stupid, moron, braindead, and every other nasty thing you can come up with? L0L "kay. Yep. I'm doing it. This thread has convinced me. For the sake of humanity, I will play DA2 again. I will do it with fraps this time. And I'll make a horrifyingly long youtube series which 'pontificates' about every single solitary wrong thing with the game. And I will make every one of you eat your words. I will make the case that DA2 is so bad, anyone who defends it should be locked away in a dungeon forever. No need to thank me. " the only things you would prove is: a) You like to waste time on things you hate. Why not spend time on games you enjoy? b) Your opinion as you will not convince anyone they are wrong in liking DA2 just like I won't convince anyone they are wrong in liking DA2? get over it, and get over your self.

Just finished NWN OC. Going on to HOTU.

"Stop being a troll and ****ing contribute. You can make all the opposing statements you want but you'll get nothing but swear words from me if you can't back them up in any substantial way." When youa ctually contribute something substantial I will as well. nothing i've read of your long posts does anything 'but my opinion is the right one and anyone who has a different opinion is wrong and poppyhead.' Everyone else in this thread has noticed it. One cana rgue my posts (or many people's posts) are like that too but, by god, I've never seen anyone write so many paragraphs to say so little. Why not just post "DA2 sucks and if you like you suck too." That's what your posts essentially do. How in the bejeebers is that substantial? It's not. It's nonense. In conclusion, DA2? BG1 + KOTOR. Prove me wrong. I dare you. btw, You can't. "ut you have to admit, anyone with a developed taste of RPGs will not be satisfied with Dragon Age 2 - Dragon Age 2 does not have qualities RPG afficianados are looking for: great story great characters tactical gameplay variety of character development exploration drama action romance philosophy other-worldly-ness consequences of player choice dynamic living worlds These things are all missing from DA2." Why are you factually lying? "I believe Obsdian just said "**** all these damn publishers, lets make the game we want to make"." Not quite. They are still working with publishers.

"You can like and have fun with Dragon Age 2 but it doesn't change the fact it is a bad game." You can hate and not have fun with DA2 but it doesn't change the fact that it is a good game.

Whinme all you want DA2 is betetr than both KOTOR and BG1 combined. This is undisputable.

"A starting dungeon is a good idea, if it's done right. Bad example: BG2" I disagree. BG2 has one of the best introductions to any game. Except for giving you a few more role-playing moments, it offers everything you should get. Story,a tmosphere, interetsing encounters, some phat loot. Coolio beanio.

"A scientist is not going to lose his job for bringing good news or bad." Kiddin' right? Scientists were just sent to prison because they got blamed for deaths b/c they didn't predict how bad an earthquake was going to be accurately. so, yeah, a scientist can lose his job and worse, Don't be ignorant if youa re gonna accuse others' of ignorance.

So, people are calling MCA a liar then? It's quite clear that PST is influenced by JRPGs and the influence was fully intentional.

"Okay, well now i can see where the joke comes from. Still, the similarities are very minor, regardless of inspiration" MINOR? MINOR? MINOR? The whole of PST, in spite of its DnD roots, is LARGELY inspired by JRPG. And, MCA clearly wanted it to be. Let's look at how PST was 'minorly' inspired by JRPGs - the spells, weapons/armour locked into specifc characters, the story being largely connected to the protagnist instead of being simply an epic fantasy story like most rpgs, the music, etc., etc. MINOR/ MINOR? MINOR? What PST did you play? What JRPGs did you play? But, the inspiration is NOt mkinor,. not by a long shot. Only reason why you are insulted by it is ebcause youa re abigot who hates JRPGs but PST is very much a mini JRPG. Not a full one since it is obviously influenced by WRPGs as well. MCA > U

"Volourn you're adorable." Adorably right.

":This makes absolutely no sense. Could you explain to me why you think Torment resembles a JRPG in any way? Even if the post was made in jest, there usually has to be some element of truth to the statement made" Because PST does have some very big similarities to CRPGs. And, it was intentional. It makes perfect sense.

"I think arguing it is a poor RPG is a more successful track. It smacks me as closer to an action game than many that wear the RPG genre moniker. " DA2 has way more role-playing in it than the the majority of so called RPGs included that oevrrated piece of crap BG1.

Global warming (and cooling) exists but the human effect on it is very exaggerated and cannot be scientically proven and those who claim they can be are silly. We can't even perfectly accurately predict weather and intelligent scientists have even been wrongly sent to jail for 'manslaughter' ebcause they couldn't accurately predict the strength of an earthquake. Of course, on the other side, those whoc laim humans have no effect on global warming and/or claim global warming doesn't exist at all are also delusional.

"Kotor I feel is their best game. The story worked well. " Then you must have the NWN OC since KOTOR is nothing but a cheap knock off rip off rehash theft of NWN OC. NWN OC > KOTOR Then again, any BIO game > KOTOR

"People saying romances are "easy to ignore": This has not been the case as of late, notably, with Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect. In DAO, the ****ing climax of the script is "Shalt thou **** thy wretched lady so she may bore thy god-childe?" Yes, the climax is a decision whether to impregnate some selfish hag or leave it to some other oaf. In Mass Effect, everything is so hypersexualized or hyper-cute-ti-tized (as in the case of Tali), you simply cannot ignore the sexual hyperbole. The camera zooms in on Miranda's ass whenever she's in frame. Mass Effect one even has this stupid romancy-climax thing shoved in your face, when you're asked to 'join with Liara' or whatever, and that such a ritual is considered practically to be sex with the Asari" You can ignore the roamnces in these games completely. And, even if you choose to have sex with Morrigan to 'save yourself'; that isn't romance. Nor is it the climax of the game. What does camera work have to do with romances? Again, romances in these games can be avoided. Easily. Don't make stuff up. It's very rude.

"That's one of the most unimaginative plot points possible. " Not as unimaginative as your post. The point, however, is ntot he actual plot but what you do with it. ie. the writing and since the concensus is that Avellone is a superior writer than Volourn he in his awesomeness should be able to make it awesome. Or do you doubt his skill? Why do you hate on MCA yet post on his company's forums? It is illogical to do so.