am not sure if people are being purposeful disingenuous. yeah, am getting why israel is withholding water and power from civilian populations, but doing so is clear violating international laws. bad. however, comparing russia's invasion o' ukraine and their resulting and ongoing campaign o' murder, looting, raping and targeting the civilian population to israel's efforts in gaza is so not analogous.
when hamas attacked civilian populations in israel on october 7, violating islamic law and premeditated engaging in acts so repugnant and vile that any decent person should be revolted, were they attempting to bring about regime change or capture territory? nope. hamas efforts were designed to instill fear in the israeli population, to capture hearts and minds in the arab world and to provoke a response from israel which would make the world pay attention to gaza.
ask selves when was the last time there was an israel thread on this board? 2014? sure, there were plenty o' knee-jerk whatabotism posts in the ukraine thread regarding israel, but the last israel thread is forcing sherman and mr. peabody to set the wayback machine near on a decade. why so long ago? 'bout a decade is the last time israel invaded gaza. no coincidence.
hamas has few allies among the national leaders o' the arab world and fewer across the rest o' the globe. hamas is an islamic, fundamentalist, terrorist organization dedicated to eradicating jews from the lands former identified as the british mandate. they are not a sympathetic organization. people do realize that one o' the principal goals o' hamas is to generate arab casualties, yes? in 2022 or 2023, hamas (and tehran?) no doubt recognized the increasing trend o' arab nations to seek normalization o' relations with israel, the most tech advanced and stable economy/trading partner in the region. *gasp* in the past, increased rocket and small scale tunnel incursions from hamas terrorists only resulted in mow-the-lawn responses from israel, which had the obsidian board and the world's arab sympathizers irate for about a month longer than the the last israeli tank were sighted in gaza. hamas, increasing isolated in the arab world, needed better than 2014 or 2008-2009.
solution: hamas creates a situation where politically israel has no choice but to respond, which is a freaking understatement. need more video and eye-witness accounts o' october 7? am willing to post links if you folks have legit already forgotten.
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again, hamas is not trying to bring about regime change and they don't have any illusions about capturing and holding israeli territory. this is so not a conventional conflict and hamas knows they cannot win a conventional war. hamas generates terror and outrage and then purposeful fights not to maximize israeli casualties, but arab corpses. hamas puts their tunnel entrances, weapon manufacturing facilities and rocket launchers in schools, churches, mosques and residential buildings, daring israel to attack. hamas discourages civilians from leaving areas israel has warned will be subject to airstrikes. etc. serious, am hopeful there is some recognition from you whataboutist folks that you are trying to compare apples and xylophones.
am not saying israel is misunderstood innocents who is trying their utmost to avoid civilian casualties-- poor israel is doing their best to uphold international and human rights laws, but hamas thwarts their best efforts. hogwash. following october 7, am suspecting those in charge o' the military response to october 7 is only concerned 'bout civilian casualties if such would result in the abandonment o' key western support. even so, to compare to russia's efforts in ukraine to israel in gaza is transparent flawed and utter ignores realities which should be obvious but constant go without mention.
israel is not good guys. israel should not be getting a free pass just 'cause they is responding to the calculated monstrosity o' hamas. even so, compare russian civilian body counts in ukraine and other obvious stoopid metrics is only making poster biases clear. is so not the same, which again does not absolve israel o' responsibility for unnecessary civilian suffering and death.
however, am betting Gromnir once again becomes exhausted before the whatabout people do.
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