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The destruction of the state and reorganization under non-hierarchial confederates where automation handles most labor.

 

To invade your safe space and laugh about it.

Okay Genghis.

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am reasonably certain we ain't ever replied to ben.  will likely be last such response.

 

smidgen sweary

 

 

 

 

HA! Good Fun!

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Only dogs are free. They can piss or screw in public and no one cares!

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Freedom is proclaiming this 

 

 

is superior to this

 

 

then coming to my senses and reversing.

 

...Only now I'm not sure anymore.

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Freedom is many things and will mean different things to people, I can understand some members think freedom in the year 2017 is an illusion

 

But its real and we should not take it granted. I would argue anyone living in countries that are Democracies should absolutely understand they live in a fee society...for example

 

  • You have freedom  to vote for who you want
  • You have free media
  • You can criticize your government
  • You have freedom of religion
  • Your  human rights are enshrined and protected legally through constitutions 

The list goes on and on 

 

Seriously, how can most of us  on this forum not agree we live in free societies ?

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how can most of us  on this forum not agree we live in free societies ?

Oh Bruce, you made that one too easy. Are you truly free if your opinion and your values aren't really your own?

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how can most of us  on this forum not agree we live in free societies ?

Oh Bruce, you made that one too easy. Are you truly free if your opinion and your values aren't really your own?

 

How do you define   " my opinions and values aren't your own " 

 

I support laws and numerous  government  institutions, I agree with paying tax, I support order and societal campaigns to improve the living conditions of citizens 

 

So Im unsure how my views aren't my own?

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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So Im unsure how my views aren't my own?

That's a start. Still a long way to go, but it's a start :)
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“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein

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So Im unsure how my views aren't my own?

That's a start. Still a long way to go, but it's a start :)

 

:lol:

 

No need to be so enigmatic, please explain how my views aren't my own?

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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So Im unsure how my views aren't my own?

That's a start. Still a long way to go, but it's a start :)

 

:lol:

 

No need to be so enigmatic, please explain how my views aren't my own?

 

Hint #1... Ask yourself, why do you hold the views you do? Were you raised to have those views, did you step out of the other side of bed one morning and had a different set of world views, did something happen in life that gave you certain views, etc. Keep asking the question and answer yourself honestly why you have those views (don't need to share them with anyone than yourself). If you think deep enough about it, you might just realise that very few of those views are your own, it's assumed views which you have taken upon yourself. For me, the key question is, Why did I do that? and what/who was behind it? (individuals, organisations, some gestalt "entity" etc.). I ask myself such questions all the time.
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“He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein

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Let's get a little philosophical.

 

To you, what is freedom?

It's your personal free time when nobody restrict you, when you can do whatever you want + high spending power when all your basic necessities are satisfied. In result you can use your free time for creativity, art etc. More such free time without lowering of living standards ( become unemployed is not same thing as become free ) = more freedom . After Revolution  of 1917 Bolshevicks first in the world reduce work time from 12 hours  per day to 8 hours per day - by this they increase freedom of people ( and capitalists has been forced do same thing later for avoiding similar rebellions ). All modern talks about freedom as freedom of opressors elections is just substitution of concepts.
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understand they live in a fee society

Yep.

 

Well spotted and ironic I suppose  8)

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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So Im unsure how my views aren't my own?

That's a start. Still a long way to go, but it's a start :)

 

:lol:

 

No need to be so enigmatic, please explain how my views aren't my own?

 

Hint #1... Ask yourself, why do you hold the views you do? Were you raised to have those views, did you step out of the other side of bed one morning and had a different set of world views, did something happen in life that gave you certain views, etc. Keep asking the question and answer yourself honestly why you have those views (don't need to share them with anyone than yourself). If you think deep enough about it, you might just realise that very few of those views are your own, it's assumed views which you have taken upon yourself. For me, the key question is, Why did I do that? and what/who was behind it? (individuals, organisations, some gestalt "entity" etc.). I ask myself such questions all the time.

 

Okay, I see your point. I need time to think about this and compose my response 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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