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  On 11/9/2016 at 4:34 PM, Elerond said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 4:21 PM, BruceVC said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 2:48 PM, Longknife said:

A high school friend on facebook (that I haven't logged into in months) said Americans think emails are more important than the LGBT community by voting for Trump and we should be ashamed, I mentioned one of those emails included heavy implications Clinton hates homosexuals.

 

She told me to stop mansplaining. :C

Until the actual election results I would have agreed with your friend because my experience is many people, including some forum members, did seem almost obsessed with the email scandal 

 

But I would ask your friend when was Trump homophobic,  because I can recall  when he demonstrated other forms of bigotry but not homophobia ?

 

 

When he chose Pence, who is openly and actively against LGBT rights and protections and who thinks that conversion therapy is not just okay but better target for governmental funding than AIDS prevention, you know that he isn't big supporter of LGBT people.

 

 

I'd "agree."

 

The thing is my stance is that while no one will deny that about Pence, I do have to question the likelihood that'll arise in terms of policy. In the same fashion that I would acknowledge we seem to have evidence at least heavily suggesting Clinton is homophobic, I would laugh at a person who suggested Clinton would act on those personal beliefs so long as gay marriage is popular politically. Same thing with Pence: yes he would gladly ban gay marriage as a person, but as VP he is very very unlikely to get such an opportunity, and even if, say, Trump lost his position, Pence replaced him as President and he attempted to make such legislature, I'm not 100% certain that even a republican congress would approve. Yes, plenty of Republicans agree, but not all, and politically it wouldn't be a wise move.

 

I've not really paid Trump's sexism any mind because I don't possibly see how it will affect his presidency to any extreme further than the average Republican (honestly I'm more concerned about the women working in the White House), and here...? Unless someone can explain a likely path through which the gay community can and will be damaged by the Trump administration, I think it a tad unfair to hold their personal beliefs up to scrutiny, but not Clinton's too.

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  On 10/30/2014 at 11:04 AM, BruceVC said:

Is your mom hot? It may explain why guys were following her ?

Posted

Let's face it folks, Trump's always known he's going to be president, down to each and every minute detail... 

 

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Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 8:40 AM, Pidesco said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 8:30 AM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:14 AM, Pidesco said:

What will the US do with the Paris accords is a big question now.

We'll wipe our collective ass with it of course.

 

 

I was serious but ok. Climate change deniers will soon be at the wheel.

 

So was I. Pissed off coal people is a big reason Trump won.

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 9:24 AM, 213374U said:

Does this mean Hillary will end up in jail where she belongs? I mean, it was a campaign promise.

I'd bet Obola will pardon her before he leaves office, like Ford pardoned Nixon preemptively.

 

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 9:54 AM, Keyrock said:

So it looks like the Republicans won both the House and the Senate too.  Wow, what a resounding defeat for the Democrats on all fronts.

Great news for getting a good justice on the Supreme Court, may be even capturing a long time conservative majority.

 

 

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 11:49 AM, TrueNeutral said:

This just in - Mexico to build wall to keep sudden stream of American immigrants out.

No, but they'll pay for it.

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 11:51 AM, Meshugger said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 11:49 AM, TrueNeutral said:

This just in - Mexico Canada to build wall to keep sudden stream of American immigrants out.

 

No one wants to go to Mexico, not even the Mexicans themselves.

 

I think something like 70% of Mexicans wish they could move to America, about 30% willing to do it illegally.

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 12:28 PM, TrueNeutral said:

A candidate we want gone by 2020? Wasn't he recently involved in a civic suit because he allegedly raped a 13 year old kid? You really think he's going to last a year without being impeached? :lol:

Suit has been withdrawn, appears to have been made up, no evidence at all presented

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Posted (edited)
  On 11/9/2016 at 12:30 PM, Longknife said:

EDIT: Wait no, impeachment means Pence gone too, no? But what happens then?

No

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 12:37 PM, TrueNeutral said:

Bill Clinton got impeached over a blowjob,

No

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 1:16 PM, Guard Dog said:

The LP candidates had a disappointing night.

No one cares.

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 3:17 PM, majestic said:

That's just awesome for as long as it takes to realize that Trump's actually tapping that (sorry for the Trumpspeak, really). Now, where's my brain bleach gotten to? Yikes.

Either you know something we don't, or you're confusing the Trump women.

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 3:45 PM, Chippy said:

Good luck America, hope the opposition come around and give your soon to be president a chance.  There's talk of California demanding secession - a (Calexit).

Quit teasing. I'd be happy if just the celebrities who promised left.

 

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 4:36 PM, redneckdevil said:

Isn't the opposition to gay marriage declared unconstitutional so even if pence wanted to do something about it, he wouldn't be able to?

A Supreme Court can always overturn its own decision, especially a ridiculously unconstitutional one. Edited by Wrath of Dagon
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Posted

Saw a funny joke on how Hurricane Matthew was trying to save the US.

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Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 5:22 PM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 3:17 PM, majestic said:

That's just awesome for as long as it takes to realize that Trump's actually tapping that (sorry for the Trumpspeak, really). Now, where's my brain bleach gotten to? Yikes.

Either you know something we don't, or you're confusing the Trump women.

 

Yeah, 'twas a mixup. Shows one shouldn't try to write jokes after an all-nighter. :blink:

 

 

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Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 5:45 PM, majestic said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 5:22 PM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 3:17 PM, majestic said:

That's just awesome for as long as it takes to realize that Trump's actually tapping that (sorry for the Trumpspeak, really). Now, where's my brain bleach gotten to? Yikes.

 

Either you know something we don't, or you're confusing the Trump women.

Yeah, 'twas a mixup. Shows one shouldn't try to write jokes after an all-nighter. :blink:

Trump plowed his daughter.

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Posted (edited)

Is this correct? It seems that Hillary would win by 0.12% point if the election was a direct election?

 

Perhaps it would be better for "democracy" if all states followed "proportional" system of applying elector votes instead of winner takes it all?

Edited by Darkpriest
Posted

Decent if belated concession speech by Hillary. It still sounded at times like a bunch of computer generated catch phrases strung together by focus groups but at others she sounded pretty genuine. She also looked more genuine than she managed at any point on the campaign trail. Hopefully she'll just be left in quiet, there's nothing to be gained from anything further and any legal attacks would just be vindictive.

 

Overall I think there's only a handful of people who have come out of this election with reputations enhanced. Trump won so he pretty much has to be on the list though I doubt it will last. Otherwise, the head of the RNC who did his job properly, perhaps best (if rather against convention) evidenced by me not being able to remember his name. Had to deal with far more internal party division at the organisational level than the Dems who as an institution near universally backed Hillary, and was a net asset to Trump rather than the counter productive spectacles DWS and Brazile made of themselves. Also Colin Powell who came out of his email leaks with reputation actually enhanced and absolutely nailed Hillary's fundamental problem (~the trouble with Hillary is her hubris) as a bonus. Lastly, Bernie Sanders. He'll be the candidate who could and should; and he's made it very difficult for the DNC to blame him for the loss, though no doubt some will try. His supporters will get some inevitable flak for not being enthusiastic/ enthusiastic enough about someone they didn't want in the first place but in the end he probably has gained more by supporting a losing candidate than he would have supporting a winning one.

 

OTOH the list of people to have their reputation trashed is too long to list.

Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 6:06 PM, Darkpriest said:

Is this correct? It seems that Hillary would win by 0.12% point if the election was a direct election?

Yes, not sure of the exact numbers because it seems they are still counting votes

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There was a moment in Hillary's concession speech where she sounded like a human being, about when she talked about never giving up in what you believe in. I have to give her that.

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Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 5:45 PM, majestic said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 5:22 PM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 3:17 PM, majestic said:

That's just awesome for as long as it takes to realize that Trump's actually tapping that (sorry for the Trumpspeak, really). Now, where's my brain bleach gotten to? Yikes.

Either you know something we don't, or you're confusing the Trump women.

 

Yeah, 'twas a mixup. Shows one shouldn't try to write jokes after an all-nighter. :blink:

 

 

 

 

A mixup but we all know it's true. He implied as much himself.

Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 5:22 PM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 8:40 AM, Pidesco said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 8:30 AM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 7:14 AM, Pidesco said:

What will the US do with the Paris accords is a big question now.

We'll wipe our collective ass with it of course.

 

 

I was serious but ok. Climate change deniers will soon be at the wheel.

 

So was I. Pissed off coal people is a big reason Trump won.

 

WOD this morning I was also angry, confused and upset about the results, I started blaming anyone who voted for independent  candidates   because at that stage of the day I hadn't realized I had made several incorrect assumptions about this election...these included

 

  • I had incorrect assumptions about why all  people supported Trump
  • I assumed Trump was the bigot he came across as 
  • I over estimated the reasons why people were supported him
  • I relied primarily on several  news channels for certain updates ( I feel sorry for some  the media as they got used to a certain degree)

 

I still support Hillary but she wasn't a strong enough candidate and I didnt realize how much frustration some people felt towards her 

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Posted (edited)

It seems that 47% of eligible voters didn't bother to vote.  So at least there is lot of people that people can blame for next 4 years. No need for self-reflection  :sweat:

 

It also seems that only ethnicity group that matters in US is whites.
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Edited by Elerond
Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 6:13 PM, Zoraptor said:

Hopefully she'll just be left in quiet, there's nothing to be gained from anything further and any legal attacks would just be vindictive.

No, it wouldn't be just vindictive. She only got off because Obola ordered his corrupt Justice Department to subvert the investigation. There was never a chance they would indict her. This miscarriage of justice must be corrected.

 

 

 

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Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 6:26 PM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:13 PM, Zoraptor said:

Hopefully she'll just be left in quiet, there's nothing to be gained from anything further and any legal attacks would just be vindictive.

No, it wouldn't be just vindictive. She only got off because Obola ordered his corrupt Justice Department to subvert the investigation. There was never a chance they would indict her. This miscarriage of justice must be corrected.

 

 

 

Chris Hagen

‏@chrishagentb

The Clinton Foundation has issued a brief statement: No Refunds. #election2016 #WheresHillary

Ah, justice like so many other principles is just a hammer to beat people with.

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Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 6:24 PM, Elerond said:

It seems that 47% of eligible voters didn't bother to vote.  So at least there is lot of people that people can blame for next 4 years. No need for self-reflection  :sweat:

 

It also seems that only ethnicity group that matters in US is whites.

CwztOcgVIAMftXZ.jpg

 

Source?

 

Anyhow, another interpretation:

 

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"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

Posted (edited)
  On 11/9/2016 at 6:33 PM, Meshugger said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:24 PM, Elerond said:

It seems that 47% of eligible voters didn't bother to vote.  So at least there is lot of people that people can blame for next 4 years. No need for self-reflection  :sweat:

 

It also seems that only ethnicity group that matters in US is whites.

CwztOcgVIAMftXZ.jpg

 

Source?

 

Anyhow, another interpretation:

 

 

 

http://brilliantmaps.com/if-only-x-voted/

 

Above maps are based on poll results before election not actual results.

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Posted (edited)

Oh dear, hahaha. Why not blame the most obvious boogieman on the internet?

Edited by TrueNeutral
Removed photos for blatant and repeatedly circumventing the language filter; this election changed nothing in the board rules

"Some men see things as they are and say why?"
"I dream things that never were and say why not?"
- George Bernard Shaw

"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

 

"The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it."

- Some guy 

Posted
  On 11/9/2016 at 6:32 PM, Malcador said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:26 PM, Wrath of Dagon said:

 

  On 11/9/2016 at 6:13 PM, Zoraptor said:

Hopefully she'll just be left in quiet, there's nothing to be gained from anything further and any legal attacks would just be vindictive.

No, it wouldn't be just vindictive. She only got off because Obola ordered his corrupt Justice Department to subvert the investigation. There was never a chance they would indict her. This miscarriage of justice must be corrected.

 

 

 

Chris Hagen

‏@chrishagentb

The Clinton Foundation has issued a brief statement: No Refunds. #election2016 #WheresHillary

 

Ah, justice like so many other principles is just a hammer to beat people with.

 

Yes, the criminals.

 

 

It's the damn Deplorables I tell you! http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/projects/cp/opinion/election-night-2016/the-unknown-country

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