Mature discussion on LGBT/Feminists who want to censor games.

[Malcador]

So GD was asking  " Does anyone else think there is too much effort made to make interpersonal relationships in video games a little too lifelike"

 

My response basically being  no because this thread is really about Bioware games and the way they have endorsed inclusion specifically around the LGBT community

 

The objective from Bioware  is to provide Romance and characters that offer heterosexual and homosexual  options ( and this includes dialogue and not just Romance dialogue) . But yes the options still need work to make them more realistic for many people but this is a work in progress. So in other words they aren't lifelike yet so work still needs to be done

 

And what I mean by demographics is there are really two angles that the LGBT community is asking for , they want to interact and meet people in the game that come from the LGBT community ( like in real life )  and they want  gay Romance options. These are two different but similar objectives. The former applies to your demographic and the latter applies to  a Romance arc

 

I hope this makes sense

I thought Bioware's obective was to make fun RPGs not romance games But ok, I see what you mean by demographic then, though I think GD was focusing on the romantic relationships rather than the Bro party member (there's always one) being homosexual.

[Meshugger]

Bruce: just google Loverslab.com and all your fetishes wishes will come true.

 

Have fun!

[BruceVC]

 

So GD was asking  " Does anyone else think there is too much effort made to make interpersonal relationships in video games a little too lifelike"

 

My response basically being  no because this thread is really about Bioware games and the way they have endorsed inclusion specifically around the LGBT community

 

The objective from Bioware  is to provide Romance and characters that offer heterosexual and homosexual  options ( and this includes dialogue and not just Romance dialogue) . But yes the options still need work to make them more realistic for many people but this is a work in progress. So in other words they aren't lifelike yet so work still needs to be done

 

And what I mean by demographics is there are really two angles that the LGBT community is asking for , they want to interact and meet people in the game that come from the LGBT community ( like in real life )  and they want  gay Romance options. These are two different but similar objectives. The former applies to your demographic and the latter applies to  a Romance arc

 

I hope this makes sense

I thought Bioware's obective was to make fun RPGs not romance games But ok, I see what you mean by demographic then, though I think GD was focusing on the romantic relationships rather than the Bro party member (there's always one) being homosexual.

 

 

I firmly believe Biowares objective is to make fun RPG's but if you can also be inclusive and appeal to whole fanbase then why not do both?

 

And lets be honest the whole LGBT aspect of Bioware games isn't a massive part of the overall gameplay..its basically optional and is something you can ignore if you want?

[Fighter]

Grunted I do think most Bioware women are butt ugly...

 

- Cassandra Pentaghast modeled with a male skull, instead of a female skull.

 

I'm kinda curious how you figure that.

[Guard Dog]

 

So GD was asking  " Does anyone else think there is too much effort made to make interpersonal relationships in video games a little too lifelike"

 

My response basically being  no because this thread is really about Bioware games and the way they have endorsed inclusion specifically around the LGBT community

 

The objective from Bioware  is to provide Romance and characters that offer heterosexual and homosexual  options ( and this includes dialogue and not just Romance dialogue) . But yes the options still need work to make them more realistic for many people but this is a work in progress. So in other words they aren't lifelike yet so work still needs to be done

 

And what I mean by demographics is there are really two angles that the LGBT community is asking for , they want to interact and meet people in the game that come from the LGBT community ( like in real life )  and they want  gay Romance options. These are two different but similar objectives. The former applies to your demographic and the latter applies to  a Romance arc

 

I hope this makes sense

I thought Bioware's obective was to make fun RPGs not romance games But ok, I see what you mean by demographic then, though I think GD was focusing on the romantic relationships rather than the Bro party member (there's always one) being homosexual.

 

Correct Sir! You can shut the whole messy thing down by just eliminating romances all together. I mean really, do any of them really work or feel organic? I'd say no. Or do what Skyrim did and just minimalize it. If you do either no one feels offended and you can concentrate on making the game story make sense. No THERE is something that could USE a little effort.

Edited May 11, 2015 by Guard Dog

[Fighter]

What Skyrim did is a waste of space. Might as well not bother.

[Hiro Protagonist]

 

- Cassandra Pentaghast modeled with a male skull, instead of a female skull.

 

I'm kinda curious how you figure that.

 

Sounds like you missed this thread.

[Darkpriest]

 

 

- Cassandra Pentaghast modeled with a male skull, instead of a female skull.

 

I'm kinda curious how you figure that.

 

Sounds like you missed this thread.

 

 

BTW,  could not care less if some pixel woman is looking attractive or not, i am there for the plot and not sex scenes... if you want to have sex, just date with the girl you like to look at. it's easy as that, unless you are some basement dweller.

[Gorth]

I firmly believe Biowares objective is to make fun RPG's but if you can also be inclusive and appeal to whole fanbase then why not do both?

The goat in the brothel was something indeed

 

Trying to include the whole fanbase is impossible though, as some groups are mutually exclusive in their likes/dislikes and tolerances/intolerances.

[Keyrock]

This is just as entertaining and, dare I say, slightly more sane than an Oby thread.

 

[BruceVC]

 

 

So GD was asking  " Does anyone else think there is too much effort made to make interpersonal relationships in video games a little too lifelike"

 

My response basically being  no because this thread is really about Bioware games and the way they have endorsed inclusion specifically around the LGBT community

 

The objective from Bioware  is to provide Romance and characters that offer heterosexual and homosexual  options ( and this includes dialogue and not just Romance dialogue) . But yes the options still need work to make them more realistic for many people but this is a work in progress. So in other words they aren't lifelike yet so work still needs to be done

 

And what I mean by demographics is there are really two angles that the LGBT community is asking for , they want to interact and meet people in the game that come from the LGBT community ( like in real life )  and they want  gay Romance options. These are two different but similar objectives. The former applies to your demographic and the latter applies to  a Romance arc

 

I hope this makes sense

I thought Bioware's obective was to make fun RPGs not romance games But ok, I see what you mean by demographic then, though I think GD was focusing on the romantic relationships rather than the Bro party member (there's always one) being homosexual.

 

Correct Sir! You can shut the whole messy thing down by just eliminating romances all together. I mean really, do any of them really work or feel organic? I'd say no. Or do what Skyrim did and just minimalize it. If you do either no one feels offended and you can concentrate on making the game story make sense. No THERE is something that could USE a little effort.

 

 

GD, stop being a naughty boy  !!! Your  comment may be true but its not really relevant because Bioware games will always have Romance, I would say Romance has become a trademark of Bioware so they will never be removed from Bioware games. Of course that doesn't mean that Romance should be the most important part of an RPG, not at all. They are just a  part of the party interaction. An appealing and appreciated part of party interaction but still just a part of party interaction. There are many other components of a RPG that need to be memorable and entertaining and therefore I would say are more important than Romance, like the narrative?

 

 

I firmly believe Biowares objective is to make fun RPG's but if you can also be inclusive and appeal to whole fanbase then why not do both?

The goat in the brothel was something indeed

 

Trying to include the whole fanbase is impossible though, as some groups are mutually exclusive in their likes/dislikes and tolerances/intolerances.

 

 

Sure I agree, which is why companies like Bioware are clear on what there games contain and if you don't like that or feel uncomfortable with there design decisions then you don't have to play there games?

[rjshae]

What the twentieth century taught us is that political groups can successfully promote their agendas by manipulating and controlling the media. Computer gaming is a logical extension of this practice.

[BruceVC]

What the twentieth century taught us is that political groups can successfully promote their agendas by manipulating and controlling the media. Computer gaming is a logical extension of this practice.

 

That's interesting, I like that perspective

 

So all the debates we have over SJ  issues, for example, in this virtual world are actually a manifestation of the same issues in RL ?

[Hurlshort]

This whole argument would carry a lot more weight if it wasn't just one company that provided all the evidence.  It is clear that Bioware has an agenda, and they are free to push it.  As a business, all they need to do is continue to be profitable, as long as they do that they can cater to whoever they want.

 

It's hard to make the argument that the industry is being taken over by feminists and LGBT groups when you have CoD and The Witcher still around.  

[Malcador]

What's upsetting for feminists or gay people about COD ?

[BruceVC]

What's upsetting for feminists or gay people about COD ?

 

Do you think COD is an inclusive game?

 

To be honest I am not sure how you would  really change it a meaningful way? Would you now throw in token gay or female characters just to pander to a group of people that probably will never play it?I have never played COD and I doubt I ever will, its irrespective of how inclusive they make it. You can compromise on many games like Witcher and expect them to be more understanding of certain SJ pressures and realities  but some games just can't change..COD is probably one of them?

Edited May 11, 2015 by BruceVC

[Hurlshort]

What's upsetting for feminists or gay people about COD ?

 

I have no idea, but it can hardly be accused of kowtowing to the demands of that community.

[Ineth]

What the twentieth century taught us is that political groups can successfully promote their agendas by manipulating and controlling the media. Computer gaming is a logical extension of this practice.

 

It appears you stumbled on this thread under the mistaken impression that a serious discussion of what it says in the title is going on here.

When in fact, this is a therapeutic thread where a ...troubled individual with a narrow notion of what a woman's face should look like, can publicly unravel their psyche.

 

The main benefit of this thread for the rest of us, is that it serves to contains that individual's pet peeve discussion in one place, and will hopefully mean that they'll stop derailing other threads with it.

Also, those not too creeped out by it may be able to derive some entertainment value from this thread...

Edited May 11, 2015 by Ineth

[Amentep]

What's upsetting for feminists or gay people about COD ?

 

Isn't Call of Duty one of those FPS where you're forced to play a male protag?  I know being able to have a choice in PC gender is a big issue for people wanting better female representation in games.

Edited May 11, 2015 by Amentep

[Malcador]

 

What's upsetting for feminists or gay people about COD ?

 

I have no idea, but it can hardly be accused of kowtowing to the demands of that community.

 

Oh ok, I thought you were using that as games that would be slighting to those people.

 

 

Do you think COD is an inclusive game?

Everyone can relate to a pair of hands holding a gun. COD's characters aren't exactly puffed up all that much and most people play for the MP. I guess the character skin could matter.

Edited May 11, 2015 by Malcador

[BruceVC]

 

What the twentieth century taught us is that political groups can successfully promote their agendas by manipulating and controlling the media. Computer gaming is a logical extension of this practice.

 

It appears you stumbled on this thread under the mistaken impression that a serious discussion of what it says in the title is going on here.

When in fact, this is a therapeutic thread where a ...troubled individual with a narrow notion of what a women's face should look like, can publicly unravel their psyche.

 

The main benefit of this thread for the rest of us, is that it serves to contains that individual's pet peeve discussion in one place, and will hopefully mean that they'll stop derailing other threads with it.

Also, those not too creeped out by it may be able to derive some entertainment value from this thread...

 

 

You funny

 

You never told me you were funny ?

[213374U]

- Most straight male gamers complaining about the PC of Dragon Age Inquisition get their posts locked, end up getting multiple warnings or get flat out banned.

 

So you're bringing that **** here instead.

 

May I suggest Obs look into hiring Stanley Woo? Because that's how bad it's getting.

[Nonek]

Dirk here with an exclusive for all you Futureheads out there, Bioware have today unveiled their latest consumer survey and you will be among the honoured few to gain access to it. Please complete and e-mail to Bioware HQ:

Do you wish the game to be called:
a, Dragon Age: Let's play dress up.
b, Dragon Age: Magic fantasy kingdom funtime.
c, Dragon Age: Lots of blood and dramatic music, we're trying really hard to be mature.
d, Dragon Age: Dry humping the dating sim.
e, Dragon Age: A pony.
f, Dragon Age: A platform for cheap and profitable DLC.

Do you wish the protagonist to be :
a, Male.
b, Female.
c, A sexless but must be pretty thing with the barest hint of personality, spouting our god awful "humour".
d, Romanceable.
e, A pony.

Do you wish armour and weapons to be:
a, Oversized.
b, Needlessly and hideously ornate.
c, Romanceable.
d, All of the above.
e, A pony.

Do you wish companions to be:
a, Morons.
b, Useless.
c, Romanceable.
d, Pretty.
e, Cutesy and Snarky.
f, All of the above.
g, A pony.

Do you wish the plot to be:
a, Blah, blah, blah - skip, skip, skip.
b, A steady progression of ever more bland loot.
c, Illogical and insultive to the reasoning ability of a foetus.
d, Romanceable.
e, All of the above.
f, A pony.

Do you wish the primary antagonist to be:
a, A cliched big bad.
b, The tool of a McGuffin.
c, Romanceable.
d, A pony.
e, A reaper.

Do you wish the game DLC to be:
a, Content gouged out of the main plot, so that you can never just buy a full game.
b, Never ending.
c, Romanceable.
d, Other-Please purchase the "Discussing DLC bonus questionnaire pack" from the Bioware store to register any other options, yours for only $14.99.

Do you wish the possible failure of the game to be blamed on:
a, You.
b, 4chan.
c, EA.
d, Metacritic.
e, Bitter old trolls, who just don't understand our innovations and artistic integrity.

f, Gamergate.

 

Edit: In all seriousness Luzarius just get over it and play other, better games, the market has not had so many superior quality alternatives in quite some time. Or go back and play some old games that are packed with far more content, features and innovation than any new ones.

Edited May 11, 2015 by Nonek

[BruceVC]

Dirk here with an exclusive for all you Futureheads out there, Bioware have today unveiled their latest consumer survey and you will be among the honoured few to gain access to it. Please complete and e-mail to Bioware HQ:

 

Do you wish the game to be called:

a, Dragon Age: Let's play dress up.

b, Dragon Age: Magic fantasy kingdom funtime.

c, Dragon Age: Lots of blood and dramatic music, we're trying really hard to be mature.

d, Dragon Age: Dry humping the dating sim.

e, Dragon Age: A pony.

f, Dragon Age: A platform for cheap and profitable DLC.

 

Do you wish the protagonist to be :

a, Male.

b, Female.

c, A sexless but must be pretty thing with the barest hint of personality, spouting our god awful "humour".

d, Romanceable.

e, A pony.

 

Do you wish armour and weapons to be:

a, Oversized.

b, Needlessly and hideously ornate.

c, Romanceable.

d, All of the above.

e, A pony.

 

Do you wish companions to be:

a, Morons.

b, Useless.

c, Romanceable.

d, Pretty.

e, Cutesy and Snarky.

f, All of the above.

g, A pony.

 

Do you wish the plot to be:

a, Blah, blah, blah - skip, skip, skip.

b, A steady progression of ever more bland loot.

c, Illogical and insultive to the reasoning ability of a foetus.

d, Romanceable.

e, All of the above.

f, A pony.

 

Do you wish the primary antagonist to be:

a, A cliched big bad.

b, The tool of a McGuffin.

c, Romanceable.

d, A pony.

e, A reaper.

 

Do you wish the game DLC to be:

a, Content gouged out of the main plot, so that you can never just buy a full game.

b, Never ending.

c, Romanceable.

d, Other-Please purchase the "Discussing DLC bonus questionnaire pack" from the Bioware store to register any other options, yours for only $14.99.

 

Do you wish the possible failure of the game to be blamed on:

a, You.

b, 4chan.

c, EA.

d, Metacritic.

e, Bitter old trolls, who just don't understand our innovations and artistic integrity.

f, Gamergate.

 

Nonek .....that post is completely unacc.......actually its very funny, it made me laugh ..."Romanceable "  

[Amentep]

Do you wish the game to be called:
a, Dragon Age: Let's play dress up.


Do you wish the protagonist to be :
e, A pony.

Do you wish armour and weapons to be:
b, Needlessly and hideously ornate.


Do you wish companions to be:
f, All of the above.

Do you wish the plot to be:
c, Illogical and insultive to the reasoning ability of a foetus.

Do you wish the primary antagonist to be:
e, A reaper.

Do you wish the game DLC to be:
b, Never ending.

Do you wish the possible failure of the game to be blamed on:
e, Bitter old trolls, who just don't understand our innovations and artistic integrity.

Do I win anything for entering?