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I think the water and shadows part is actually pretty simple: Make it demi-3D. Create simple 3D models that animate as the characters would (or potentially just a single model!), and then make them draw invisible. However the models themselves would cast shadows, and could potentially receive shadows as well, which could overlay on the sprite characters and fake a 3D shadow effect from the environment. This means doubling up asset creation a little, but it's actually simplified a bit since you don't have to define the models very much. They're just there to cast shadows.

 

Likewise water has been done to death and back to life with shaders on 3D planes. You can create areas in your Unity scene which apply these shaders to cause rippling water, and save a ton on animated textures. Seriously, realistic water shaders are plentiful and beautiful.

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I hadn't realized how much I missed watching the updates great stuff.

 

I worry that the scope of the project and huge amount of expectations (we did give 4 million on a promise that they'd recapture something we haven't had in a while) don't wear them down too badly! Best of luck couldn't have asked for a better bunch to give this thing a go.

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Regarding the Blu-rays, did you take into consideration archiving? KGB Archiver supposedly is very good at getting files to their minimum size.

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Love the T-shirt, NOW that would be a bold (and great IMO) choice, Amon Tobin for the soundtrack! Too often "fantasy" music has automatically meant orchestral movie soundtrack blandness.

 

As for the update, I was wondering...what can we do ? You have this great community who will work for free, please use it \ us.

I know the P.E staff will come to the fotums for some fan feedback but how about something more preoactive, say have a competition to write a one page backstory on some of the companions, submitted to PE, they flick thru and choose the best one. Fan fiction might be 95%fluff but you will find a diamond in the rough every now and then.

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Bah, 'tis no problem. I am surprised that none of you noticed the midnight blue +5 Bracer of Swift Game Development Sawyer was wearing on his right wrist. Legend has it that he stole recovered it from BIS, in the crypt where a statue of Herve Caen looked menacingly over scenes of employee sacrifice.


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The size and structure of the world - This game will be... large. And it will have two big cities, exploration areas, and a 15-level mega-dungeon. Ensuring that the world is planned properly requires examination of what has worked for us in the past and what hasn't. The original Baldur's Gate had a number of wilderness areas, but low density of content in many of those areas. Baldur's Gate II had much greater content density, but fewer wilderness/pure exploration areas. We'd like to make sure we have pure exploration areas while still maintaining good content density.

 

 

Hey Dudes PLEASE leave the low density wildernes areas. It is quite easy to be done, need only to assemble the terrains and invironment and in some of them you can put treasures, small quests, hidden places etc. WE WANT TO EXPLORE! :))))

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Yay! An Update! I'm really curious how many lvls are needed to complete the art for the statue. I was hoping that we did complete it with 15 lvls but it seems as if we fell a bit short ;( Perhaps we can still make the 40k Facebook likes >.< Only ~12k left!

What about final Paypal numbers? Perhaps we qualify for another dungeon lvl? *Grabs each straw he can find*

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I think I am kind of update addicted now XD

I really like the new dungeon artwork, but still there is the bitter feeling not seeing the statue in total...

And I doubt with the slow progress of the 40000 facebook likes we are still able toachieve the Level 16.

Anyway does someone know how long this will be possible?

I don't even know if one more level would be enough for the completion considering the proportions.

Yes I know we will get a lot of other stuff. But in my opinion, I think this also a kind of rpg player habit trying to achieve perfection ;-)

Nevertheless I really enjoy every bit of information shared with us.

This will be an awesome game

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I really like the new dungeon artwork, but still there is the bitter feeling not seeing the statue in total...

 

 

Absolutely agree!!!

LET them surprise us, If we know everything before the game come out it will be very boring!


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Hand painted 2d backrounds with some 3d and animations sound great to me. Make it cool even if it takes a lot of memory ;)

 

When talking about making backrounds and the world coming alive I always remember the old Blade Runner game that still in my mind is beautifully made game. All the backrounds are animated and not static at all. I don't know what engine they used but still, it's a great example: http://youtu.be/k_FhzXFUAzE

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So did someone break his hand while being falldown drunk during the afterparty? :)


Anything I say, do or write while drunk is declared null and void once the hangover starts!

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Regarding the Blu-rays, did you take into consideration archiving? KGB Archiver supposedly is very good at getting files to their minimum size.

KGB is waaaaaay slow for commercial use. I don't want to buy an game and wait for a day (or more) before the whole thing is unpacked an installed.

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Don´t know if CO-OP is already on the shedule.

 

So will there be CO-OP-campagne or will the mainstory be co-op-able?

 

No co-op no MP.


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The BG maps themselves were absolutely huge.

A good example is the full Saradush map I pieced together some years ago for the hell of it (I was going to do every map, but it was just way too much work)

http://img.photobuck...es/bgmaptry.jpg

This is drastically jpeg compressed, so I got it down to a little under 1 MB for a 3395x2882 map.

The full PNG file however, is 16.2 MB.

So given that the minimum resolution for BG was 640x480, and for PE they are talking about a minimum of 1920x1080, that makes almost a 7-fold difference in the number of pixels. That would make the static background of the same map around 110 MB in size. That makes it unlikely, in my opinion, that they will go for any higher resolutions, like 2560x1600, without upsampling (hopefully not) or increasing view area. Supporting the same map at the same view area and full background quality at WQXGA resolutions would mean another 2x increase in file size, and 220 MB for a single map static background, without any of the effects and props would be quite something.

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I still only see the old 13 level design :(, otherwise cool update really looking forward to this

Delete your browser cache and reload.

I can't see the new image even in another browser. I've never been on that page in that browser.

 

A few people in the comments section have linked to this http://i.imgur.com/Ayktx.jpg which appears to be the 15 floor dungeon artwork.

 

I'm not sure if we're 1 or 2 floors away from the bottom of the foot, but it does make me a little sad we won't get to see it in the artwork.

 

I can only hope the expansion will add floors :) I wanna see this thing go all the way to hell damnit.

Thanks! I guess they've left something for the 16th level. Something like a foot.

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They will consider co-op in PE2 if this one sells good. Due to the limited budget they have they wont make a co-op feature for PE or its expansion (well i guess the expansion could have it depending on how much money they make).

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