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[Gfted1]

It would be hilarious if they got hit with the Brown Note: Brown note - Wikipedia 

I wish we had that here. 

[Malcador]

  On 3/19/2025 at 9:09 AM, Lexx said:

https://apnews.com/article/serbia-sonic-device-protest-vucic-e5a6f8c2aad995764c424a6f0d619887

Serbian gov used an area of denial weapon against peaceful protesters. This is some crazy ****. Video:

 

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Surprised the cops in America don't already have that.

[Sarex]

  On 3/19/2025 at 9:49 AM, BruceVC said:

@Sarex anything to say?

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Ja Rule and me are appalled. It was weird to see the crowd moving like that, but so far no one saw or recorded what actually caused it. The sound cannon from the pictures I saw should be fairly obvious, but I wouldn't put it past them...

[uuuhhii]

how eager are usa right now to attack iran and start ww3

one must plan their short remaining modern life accordingly

[Malcador]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/03/19/jackie-robinsons-pentagon-page-removed-then-restored-in-dei-purge/

US official going on about "Woke cultural Marxism", what a world.

[melkathi]

  On 3/15/2025 at 8:35 AM, majestic said:

So how long until Trump renames Rosa Parks Day to Uppity Bus Rider Day? 

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I find it hilarious the country that changed the name of the Gulf of Mexico and wants to rename Greenland to Red and Blue Land is threatening to close their consulate in Johannesburg over the change of a street name

[BruceVC]

  On 3/19/2025 at 10:00 PM, uuuhhii said:

how eager are usa right now to attack iran and start ww3

one must plan their short remaining modern life accordingly

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Iran is close to getting nukes 

And Israel and the US wont allow this. Its been explained many times and most people should be aware of this. A nuclear armed Iran would destabilize the entire ME 

But it wont be  a  WW3, that term keeps getting thrown around whenever there is regional war and it seems to be because of sensationalism, misinformation or fearmongering

You can only have a WW if the worlds superpowers are fighting each other. A war between Russia and Ukraine or war between Iran and Israel\US is not a WW 

 

 

 

[Elerond]

  On 3/19/2025 at 10:10 PM, Malcador said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2025/03/19/jackie-robinsons-pentagon-page-removed-then-restored-in-dei-purge/

US official going on about "Woke cultural Marxism", what a world.

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One would think that department of government efficient would look this case and fire people wasting governments money by mistakenly deleting and then restoring pages, that seem to be such bureaucratic waste they are trying to get rid of

[Azdeus]

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-administration-halts-program-track-abducted-ukrainian-children-lawmakers-2025-03-18/
 

It's like an endless deluge of ****

[rjshae]

  On 3/20/2025 at 6:17 AM, BruceVC said:

But it wont be  a  WW3, that term keeps getting thrown around whenever there is regional war and it seems to be because of sensationalism, misinformation or fearmongering

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A regional nuclear exchange could have a world-wide climate impact. It depends on the amount of carbon aerosols thrown up into the upper atmosphere.

https://doi.org/10.1029/2020JD033056

[BruceVC]

  On 3/20/2025 at 2:57 PM, rjshae said:

A regional nuclear exchange could have a world-wide climate impact. It depends on the amount of carbon aerosols thrown up into the upper atmosphere.

https://doi.org/10.1029/2020JD033056

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How would nukes be used in an Israel\US war with Iran?

 

Iran doesn't have nukes and the war would be about preventing Iran getting nukes

But none of the Sunni Gulf states also want the Iran to get nukes and before the Iranian nuclear  deal was agreed all permanent members of the UNSC agreed on sanctions against Iran to stop them getting nukes

Thats changed now from a Russian perspective since the invasion of Ukraine and Russia becoming closer to Iran but I doubt even Russia really supports Iran getting nukes  

[Gfted1]

  On 3/20/2025 at 2:57 PM, rjshae said:

A regional nuclear exchange could have a world-wide climate impact. It depends on the amount of carbon aerosols thrown up into the upper atmosphere.

https://doi.org/10.1029/2020JD033056

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Well at least we wouldnt have to worry about global warming.

[Malcador]

https://newrepublic.com/post/192969/tattoo-soccer-ball-enough-get-deported-el-salvador

Sucks for him that due process is now Cultural Marxism.

[rjshae]

  On 3/20/2025 at 3:21 PM, BruceVC said:

How would nukes be used in an Israel\US war with Iran?

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Wasn't your premise that we'd go to war to prevent Iran from having a nuclear arsenal? We're not at full-blown war with them now, so presumably that would happen once Iran is nuclear armed to some degree? Do we invade Iran at that point? What's the trigger point? When Iran tests a nuclear weapon?

[rjshae]

  On 3/20/2025 at 3:38 PM, Gfted1 said:

Well at least we wouldnt have to worry about global warming.

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The paper predicts an effect that would last four years, so presumably a very poor agricultural output for a few years. Enough to cause mass starvation? I don't know, But after that, we're back to global warming again.

[Zoraptor]

  On 3/20/2025 at 3:21 PM, BruceVC said:

How would nukes be used in an Israel\US war with Iran?

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One of the methods for dealing with hardened underground facilities is a nuclear version of the bunker buster (B61m11). It's extremely likely Israel has an equivalent.

Funny thing is, of course, that there was a mechanism for stopping Iran getting a nuclear bomb without the supreme irony of using nukes to do it: the JCPOA. Donald Trump should seriously consider drone striking whoever decided to renege on that deal for causing so much unnecessary threat to the world and to Israel.

[rjshae]

Well it looks like DJT is going ahead with the plans to "dismantle" Department of Education. I wonder what the Democrats would do with that kind of capability (assuming there will still be a constitution)? Get rid of the NRC? Toss ECAP? Eliminate fossil fuel subsidies? Take down the US Customs and Border Protection? Eliminate the DHS? What do you think?

[BruceVC]

  On 3/20/2025 at 9:25 PM, Zoraptor said:

One of the methods for dealing with hardened underground facilities is a nuclear version of the bunker buster (B61m11). It's extremely likely Israel has an equivalent.

Funny thing is, of course, that there was a mechanism for stopping Iran getting a nuclear bomb without the supreme irony of using nukes to do it: the JCPOA. Donald Trump should seriously consider drone striking whoever decided to renege on that deal for causing so much unnecessary threat to the world and to Israel.

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It was stupid for Trump to end the nuclear deal but then have no long-term objective and commitment around "what next "

He did this because of pressure from Israel due to other things Iran was doing which wasnt inline with the spirit of the nuclear deal  which was about a peaceful Iran going forward 

One of  the factors in Trumps ill-conceived decision was Iran tested ballistic missiles after the nuclear deal was signed so for the protractors of Iran this was "evidence " that Iran was still a military threat for the region  in different ways. And this was in contravention to another agreed on UNSC resolution 

https://www.armscontrol.org/blog/2017-02-01/irans-ballistic-missile-test-troubling-not-cause-provoking-confrontation

"Without question, Iran’s decision to continue testing ballistic missiles is unhelpful and inconsistent with the spirit of a key 2015 UN Security Council resolution. But the Trump administration and the Congress should measure their response to Iran’s missile test and refrain from actions that will provoke escalation or unnecessarily endanger the nuclear deal.

While Iran’s ballistic missile tests are clearly not a violation of the nuclear deal, these activities are inconsistent with UN Security Council Resolution 2231, which endorsed the agreement and lifted some UN sanctions, but kept in place restrictions on Iran’s ballistic missile activities.

Resolution 2231 “calls upon” Iran not to test any ballistic missiles that are “designed to be nuclear capable.” This language is less restrictive than the prior prohibition on missile testing contained in UN Security Council Resolution 1929 (2010), which said that Iran “shall not undertake any activity related to ballistic missiles capable of delivering nuclear weapons.” This restriction was replaced by 2231. "

 

But the nuclear deal should have been preserved because its different to Iran having Ballistic missiles 

Because you now have this current situation, Iran is close to enriching Uranium levels for nukes and we  face a possible  Israel\US military campaign to exactly prevent Iran getting nukes which was already covered by JCPOA 

And  then different US presidents have different appetites for a war with Iran, its unlikely  Israel will find another Trump who will support them in this way and they definitely wont get that support from the Dems 

 

 

[BruceVC]

  On 3/20/2025 at 8:01 PM, rjshae said:

Wasn't your premise that we'd go to war to prevent Iran from having a nuclear arsenal? We're not at full-blown war with them now, so presumably that would happen once Iran is nuclear armed to some degree? Do we invade Iran at that point? What's the trigger point? When Iran tests a nuclear weapon?

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Okay I see your point, I agree its not clear what the point would be around when does Israel\US attack Iran

And it would be extensive airstrikes and not a land invasion but even then what would be the achievable military objectives

The general concern is Iran is close enriching Uranium to 90%, its on 60% 

So the airstrikes would have to be on Iranian sites that are enriching Uranium to prevent this? 

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-stock-near-bomb-grade-uranium-grows-sharply-iaea-report-shows-2025-02-26/

"The stock of uranium enriched to up to 60% fissile purity, close to the roughly 90% of bomb grade, has been a long-standing concern for Western powers, which say there is no civil justification for enriching uranium to such a high level. Iran says it seeks only peaceful nuclear energy.

While U.S. President Donald Trump's administration has said it plans to pressure Iran over its nuclear programme, the International Atomic Energy Agency has said time is running out for diplomacy to impose new restrictions on Iran's activities.

"The significantly increased production and accumulation of high enriched uranium by Iran, the only non-nuclear weapon state to produce such nuclear material, is of serious concern," the International Atomic Energy Agency said in a passage that, unusually, was included in both its quarterly reports on Iran. "

 

 

[HoonDing]

The old world is dying and the new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monsters.

[Malcador]

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5208187-commerce-secretary-social-security-fraud/

Says a lot about their mindset 

[ShadySands]

  On 3/22/2025 at 12:45 AM, Malcador said:

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5208187-commerce-secretary-social-security-fraud/

Says a lot about their mindset 

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Yeah, billionaire can't comprehend people on fixed incomes and living paycheck to paycheck because billionaire's MIL will be alright if she doesn't get a check for a month. They must be scammers.

I mean, why don't they just get a small loan of a million dollars from their dads? These people are truly amazing human beings and awe inspiring bastions of empathy.

[BruceVC]

  On 3/22/2025 at 2:45 AM, ShadySands said:

Yeah, billionaire can't comprehend people on fixed incomes and living paycheck to paycheck because billionaire's MIL will be alright if she doesn't get a check for a month. They must be scammers.

I mean, why don't they just get a small loan of a million dollars from their dads? These people are truly amazing human beings and awe inspiring bastions of empathy.

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You   know what is interesting, I have seen a massive change in support for Trump on Codex because so many people believe Trump is completely controlled by Israel\Jews and the US is now " MIGA "(make Israel great again )

There are the normal anti-Semites and conspiracy theorists that always peddle Jew conspiracy theories  which I ignore but then there are real stories and legitimate concerns like the political influence and funding that AIPAC has over Congress on both parties 

https://theintercept.com/2024/10/24/aipac-spending-congress-elections-israel/

Lobby groups exist and I dont have an issue with them when they open about what  they do but I dont think its helpful for any lobby group to have this type of influence on Congress 

 

 

[Malcador]

  On 3/22/2025 at 2:45 AM, ShadySands said:

Yeah, billionaire can't comprehend people on fixed incomes and living paycheck to paycheck because billionaire's MIL will be alright if she doesn't get a check for a month. They must be scammers.

I mean, why don't they just get a small loan of a million dollars from their dads? These people are truly amazing human beings and awe inspiring bastions of empathy.

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Real shame Lutnick was late to work on 9/11.

[rjshae]

Per the Howard Lutnick article: As with many things this administration is implementing, they don't seem to have thought through the consequences. They want to:

1. Make significant cuts to the Social Security Administration, including closing offices
2. Make people come in person to verify their identity

Alas, there may be nobody around to check the identities. Hmm, problem solved I suppose. I.e. just die old person.