BruceVC Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 4 hours ago, Gromnir said: no. we woulda' agreed with you at the time o' the election, but the past two years has proven us wrong. the mueller report is far worse than gd believes. am recalling your but for kinda statements regarding those in trump's orbit protecting him from obstruction, but that ain't the law. trump attempts to obstruct justice were crimes and failure o' subordinates to carry out orders only impacted evidentiary strength rather than existence o' criminal activity. mueller also described a systematic pattern o' lies and misrepresentation which we is surprised the media outlets never bothered to compare direct to Nixon, 'cause trump administration lies were far more numerous and arguable worse. trump has attempted to politicize the military and he has used pardon power to help more than one bad actor. numerous senior cabinet member has described trump as stoopid, and a few has pointed out how they necessarily had to step in to prevent him from doing overt illegal. mattis and kelly… why did they leave the administration? knowing what you know o' these military men, do you see such persons leaving the administration over disagreement on issues? is hard to imagine these folks leaving over differences in policy. conscience. similar, mcmaster were effective fired 'cause he insisted on doing his job and advising the President honest. short after all three men left, honorable men who served best possible in jobs trump made difficult, the President criticized all three for either lack o' intelligence or character. admiral mcraven said trump's attacks on the press is the greatest threat to democracy in his lifetime. no President has so active attacked the legitimacy o' the press. why? 'cause the press has been mean to him. clinton, who no doubt woulda' received bad press, mighta' attacked individual reporters and stories, but am not able to imagine her using "enemy of the people" language. evar. is the kinda stuff we previous thought were reserverved for autocrats and internet hoaxers. alternative facts and outright lies. claim sound from windmills cause cancer and when confronted with abject stoopidity o' such statements he doubles-down on such. crowd size. mit global warming studies. payoffs to porn stars. authorship o' press releases. could spend tens o' pages discussing trump admin lies... and when he is caught in an obvious lie, he tends to make lie bigger rather than retracting. ignores the unanimous advice o' intelligence chiefs in favor o' tucker carlson and sean hannity? why? 'cause the fox guys says what trump wants to hear. attacks on McCain even after the senator's death, and why? 'cause mccain, who were in favor o' obamacare repeal, were having too much integrity to go along with the slapped together replacement plan which were forced through committee w/o debate. (can ff to ~7:00-9:45ish if just wanna hear reasons for voting 'gainst obamacare repeal.) faked medical condition to avoid military service while ridiculing mccain's efforts in service to his country. lies. pettiness. willful stoopidity. oh, and as bad as were hillary emails and the potential damage such coulda' done to US intelligence and diplomatic efforts, within month o' being in office trump spilled israeli secrets to the russians in the oval office and he forced security clearances to be given to family members he were told were in danger o' being compromised. clinton woulda' been bad, but trump daily lies and character breaches has made gd and others numb to how terrible he is. we honest could not imagine how terrible trump character as President has been. had assumed pu$$y grab before being elected woulda' been low water mark, but have been proven wrong almost daily. your gas station guy is perpetual safe from making good on offer, eh? oh, and mexico tariffs? HA! Good Fun! I have to say when you summarize these bad points and decisions made by Trump it makes a very compelling argument that anyone could have been worse...I doubt Hilary Clinton would have been this egregious. "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 20 minutes ago, Skarpen said: The fact that most people given the opportunity of time travel would resort to killing AH, rather than consider any alternative option, is enough evidence that history would not change significally with or without AH. Probably not, but I doubt the other time machine what ifs would either because history isn't made by a few great men and their ideals. It would make a better excursion than changing an election or lecturing historical figures on policy though. "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Guard Dog Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 2 hours ago, KaineParker said: Probably not, but I doubt the other time machine what ifs would either because history isn't made by a few great men and their ideals. It would make a better excursion than changing an election or lecturing historical figures on policy though. I'd go back to the Jurassic age and stomp on some butterflies "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Guard Dog Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Grom & Bruce: Would you rather be stung by a scorpion of bitten by a snake. Trading one bad for another is no bargain. Besides sooner or later you know this country was going to elect an utter idiot. I thought we already had, turns out I was wrong. Maybe we got that out of our system now. Edited May 31, 2019 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
Gromnir Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Guard Dog said: Grom & Bruce: Would you rather be stung by a scorpion of bitten by a snake. Trading one bad for another is no bargain. may indeed be a bargain. garter snake bite v. arizona bark scorpion? snake is the bargain choice. converse, pretty much any other usa indigenous scorpion v. a diamondback rattler is gonna be a similar ez choice and would be representing a potential life saving bargain. make a choice between bad options is representing most o' the hard decisions we has had to face over the years. choices is typical tough precise 'cause there is no good option. hardly ideal, but one needs look at situation from a realistic pov and make the tough choice 'tween those bad options. not every scenario with all bad options is kobayashi maru. write off situation as no-win is foolish if there is a way to minimize losses. good losses is indeed possible when looking long-term and such is sometimes better option than a pyrrhic victory. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Guard Dog Posted May 31, 2019 Posted May 31, 2019 (edited) Assuming we even have a choice. We both cast votes in states where the outcome is a foregone conclusion. Unless you know a way to reprogram the simulation so we actually can rescue the ship. Of course I didn't vote for either so I'm cool with the guy in the mirror. Not voting for either D or R in '20 or ever again for that matter. Now when it comes to the make up of Congress we do have a little more control. Just a little. I like my Congress in opposition to the Presidents. If only they would find the back bone to actually take back power ceded to the executive. Like tariffs. Of course they won't because all 535 of them dream of having that power themselves one day. Like I've said before, there are no saints in hell Edited May 31, 2019 by Guard Dog "While it is true you learn with age, the down side is what you often learn is what a damn fool you were before" Thomas Sowell
213374U Posted June 1, 2019 Posted June 1, 2019 Yeah, think about it man. Hillary not being elected was a waste of a perfectly good opportunity to go toe to toe with the ruskies in (possibly nuclear) combat. Now with these lily-livered pinkos you're getting on one side of the aisle and Putin fanboys on the other, you may not get another such chance in your lifetime. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Gromnir Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 trump claims he never called meghan markle "nasty" why lie? honest, who cares if he called her nasty, but why lie when there is video and audio recording proof? more mind boggling, trump's own people posted a link to the video in which potus says he didn't realize meghan markle were nasty... were some kinda bizarre attempt to refute media claims. now trump is demanding another apology from fake media. what? meanwhile, 30% o' the US population likely agree that trump is owed an apology. a few o' you know who you are. ... we are living a freaking twilight zone episode. at least during the first couple years in office, trump had folks around him who refused to lie for the President. those folks is gone. again, this were nothing, but why lie 'bout it? HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Skarpen Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 1 hour ago, Gromnir said: again, this were nothing, but why lie 'bout it? Well, might be that media became so untrustworthy that he actually can get away with it? Also I think this might be a semantics problem. Calling someone nasty and calling someone's action nasty, not the same thing.
HoonDing Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 Truth isn't truth. 1 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
BruceVC Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, HoonDing said: Truth isn't truth. Maybe in the Netherlands because everyone is stoned but not in most other places ..the truth is the truth and that is a matter of fact "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
ShadySands Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 He's a proven liar and not even the regular politician type liar either as he doubles down his lies rather than retract them. His supporters either excuse or ignore it and it doesn't matter what his opposition thinks because you're either with him or against him. This is the state of things now. The new normal. Bruce, that's a quote from Rudy Giuliani. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-quotes-of-the-year-20181212-story.html 2 Free games updated 3/4/21
BruceVC Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 8 minutes ago, ShadySands said: He's a proven liar and not even the regular politician type liar either as he doubles down his lies rather than retract them. His supporters either excuse or ignore it and it doesn't matter what his opposition thinks because you're either with him or against him. This is the state of things now. The new normal. Bruce, that's a quote from Rudy Giuliani. https://www.latimes.com/nation/la-fg-quotes-of-the-year-20181212-story.html Good response and link, nice one But I am not suggesting Trump or Giuliani are paragons of truthfulness. They have blatantly misrepresented the truth on numerous occasions. I am saying the truth is the truth 1 "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Skarpen Posted June 2, 2019 Posted June 2, 2019 2 hours ago, BruceVC said: Maybe in the Netherlands because everyone is stoned That's not a nice response. Attacking someone for their nationality is a faux pax at best. Try to be better in the future
PK htiw klaw eriF Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 30% of Americans believe this is a salad. Who are we to say that they're wrong? 2 "Akiva Goldsman and Alex Kurtzman run the 21st century version of MK ULTRA." - majestic "you're a damned filthy lying robot and you deserve to die and burn in hell." - Bartimaeus "Without individual thinking you can't notice the plot holes." - InsaneCommander "Just feed off the suffering of gamers." - Malcador "You are calling my taste crap." -Hurlshort "thankfully it seems like the creators like Hungary less this time around." - Sarex "Don't forget the wakame, dumbass" -Keyrock "Are you trolling or just being inadvertently nonsensical?' -Pidesco "we have already been forced to admit you are at least human" - uuuhhii "I refuse to buy from non-woke businesses" - HoonDing "feral camels are now considered a pest" - Gorth "Melkathi is known to be an overly critical grumpy person" - Melkathi "Oddly enough Sanderson was a lot more direct despite being a Mormon" - Zoraptor "I found it greatly disturbing to scroll through my cartoon's halfing selection of genitalias." - Wormerine "I love cheese despite the pain and carnage." - ShadySands
Malcador Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Just wait til you see an American Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gromnir Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 swedish film. there is an imdb listing for a movie called swedish meatballs, but is a swedish documentary 'bout rock climbing in sweden? HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Malcador Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 I hate clickbait thumbnails on videos normally, but will make an exception for that one. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
BruceVC Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jun/03/trump-praises-nigel-farage-and-refuses-to-apologise-for-nasty-jibe-as-he-leaves-us Trump has insulted the mayor of London before arriving in the UK, why is Trump being so naughty? Trump loves these types of Twitter wars and he never ignores them or will concede ...he rather doubles down which is why its best to just ignore him "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Volourn Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Dude. The London mayor has called Trump a whole bunch of nasty ****. Yet you cry that Trump returns the favor? LMAO I find it funny. People call Trump a host of nasty things. He returns the favor. And, people are shocked and horrified by it. Like, HOW COULD HE!?! LMAO 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
BruceVC Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 4 minutes ago, Volourn said: Dude. The London mayor has called Trump a whole bunch of nasty ****. Yet you cry that Trump returns the favor? LMAO I find it funny. People call Trump a host of nasty things. He returns the favor. And, people are shocked and horrified by it. Like, HOW COULD HE!?! LMAO I tend to agree, the mayor of London has also been petulant and used Twitter in an inappropriate manner for someone of this position "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
rjshae Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 Love it when the Troll heads overseas and we get a mini-vacation from the bile. He should spend more time over there; maybe work on his short game. 1 "It has just been discovered that research causes cancer in rats."
Gromnir Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 26 minutes ago, BruceVC said: I tend to agree, the mayor of London has also been petulant and used Twitter in an inappropriate manner for someone of this position vol may have the attention span o' a goldfish, but don't let him and trump distract you. yes, the mayor o' london has said mean things to trump, but that ain't what started the whole "nasty" nonsense. trump lied. he lied for no reason. not only did he lie, but he had his campaign try and refute his lie with additional lies. so trump, instead o' apologizing or distancing himself from the lie, is gonna get as much mileage as possible outta this swirling toilet o' idiocy. his followers love to watch trump fight. so trump takes his lie and transforms... is now 'bout whether or trump should need sit quiet and meek while folks is being nasty to him? don't follow trump and vol down into the sewer. if you are gonna make mistake o' jumping into the toilet in the first place, at least be the floater who refuses to be dragged down with the likes o' the potus... and vol. HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
BruceVC Posted June 3, 2019 Posted June 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, Gromnir said: vol may have the attention span o' a goldfish, but don't let him and trump distract you. yes, the mayor o' london has said mean things to trump, but that ain't what started the whole "nasty" nonsense. trump lied. he lied for no reason. not only did he lie, but he had his campaign try and refute his lie with additional lies. so trump, instead o' apologizing or distancing himself from the lie, is gonna get as much mileage as possible outta this swirling toilet o' idiocy. his followers love to watch trump fight. so trump takes his lie and transforms... is now 'bout whether or trump should need sit quiet and meek while folks is being nasty to him? don't follow trump and vol down into the sewer. if you are gonna make mistake o' jumping into the toilet in the first place, at least be the floater who refuses to be dragged down with the likes o' the potus... and vol. HA! Good Fun! This post made me laugh and I do indeed want to avoid being dragged into any toilet "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
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