Chilloutman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I think even if Diablo 4 would be like D2 again, at highest I would play through it only once... just like D3. I've grown out of that gameplay and it isn't as much fun to me anymore as 15 or what years ago. Quite opposite for me, I really liked D1 and D2 but I was really not impressed with D3 at all, from visuals, to always online, to fiasco with real cash market... I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 its not surprising tho in relation to latest comments from Blizz that they are going to focus on mobile games Well, is a huge revenue area that they're not fully exploiting, no? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 its not surprising tho in relation to latest comments from Blizz that they are going to focus on mobile games Well, is a huge revenue area that they're not fully exploiting, no? Sure, again I don't care, I use my phone for calls, sms, and sometimes news on iternet. But to each his own I say I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I can stand term 'monetisation' in gaming world. Why someone even need to debate that? You make game - we buy it, end of monetisation 2 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 I can stand term 'monetisation' in gaming world. Why someone even need to debate that? You make game - we buy it, end of monetisation Because people give them money for the microtransaction stuff. If people want to pay you, take their money Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Ubisoft lucritively defends loot boxes, blames gamers for all industry's mistakes. Sound familiar? Edit: Actually the more that I think about it, the more I relize that Ubisoft is very smart with what they said, they're not wrong. Edited November 23, 2018 by SonicMage117 Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
injurai Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Some credible info about Diablo 3 and Diablo 4 development at Blizzard, courtesy of the poster Fusion at Battlenet, and of course Kotaku: https://kotaku.com/the-past-present-and-future-of-diablo-1830593195 DIII originally planned to have two expansions but since it was perceived a "failure" after launch Blizzard decided to scrap the second one before seeing how Reaper of Souls performed to jump straight into D4 development. D4 started in 2014 as Project hades. over the should point of view, dark souls inspired title. Was scraped around 2016. D4's second iteration code named Fenris started around 2016. Want to make it dark, scary atmosphere like DII, remove cartoony graphics. Not sure if they want to do over the shoulder or isometric camera. (how can this even be an argument) much more. see below.Even as speculation this already relieves me so much. Pretty sad that this journalist has provided us more information than Blizzard has though. Wow, project Hades is an obvious mistake. Even the Souls genre is niche and waning. Let's hope project Fenris isn't canned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 all those blizz 'leaks' sounds more like a damage control to me 3 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Curious damage control to slate your management, though. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Ubisoft lucritively defends loot boxes, blames gamers for all industry's mistakes. Sound familiar? Edit: Actually the more that I think about it, the more I relize that Ubisoft is very smart with what they said, they're not wrong. Ubisoft made most of its revenue last year from "Player Recurring Investment", why should they stop if people are buying them? Plus if the games are so compromised by the inclusion of microtransactions you can easily not buy them. I don't get the rage over this stuff and getting the government involved is just going end up backfiring. https://gamerant.com/ubisoft-microtransaction-sales/ 1 I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Hot taek: Titan Quest > Diablo 2. Grim Dawn > * 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoraptor Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) Curious damage control to slate your management, though. It's not like Robert Kotick esquire has any rep to lose with gamers, indeed he seems to enjoy being disliked by them. No one is going to remove management just because gamers hate them or there wouldn't be any management. In which case everyone would be Valve and we'd get tremendous non monetised deep SP games with all the features people want like Artifact instead. The people whose opinion of Bobby K does count care about the share price and dividends, they couldn't care less about any backlash so long as sales hold up, and they read wsj/ ft etc instead of Kotaku or Polygon. Edited November 23, 2018 by Zoraptor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 (edited) True, but I'd just assume there's no game being played with the article. Will have to see what the Diablo community is saying, always worth a laugh - read Brevik referred to as a 'titan of the industry' a week ago, for example. Dev hell and reboots in dev seem to be a theme with Blizzard - worked out okay for Titan and WC3 though (again, sort of curious marketing as it sounds as lower tier management has issues). Edited November 23, 2018 by Malcador Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 So I just found out that playing multiplayer on PS4 costs money. You have to spend like 8€ / month for a PS-Plus membership. Damn, console peasants are getting milked like crazy. Everything costs muchos monetos. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Another reason I never really play alotta online games (with the exception of a few on pc). I'd never pay for subscriptions for something like WoW either, no matter how good the game is considered. Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
213374U Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Ubisoft made most of its revenue last year from "Player Recurring Investment", why should they stop if people are buying them? Plus if the games are so compromised by the inclusion of microtransactions you can easily not buy them. I don't get the rage over this stuff and getting the government involved is just going end up backfiring. https://gamerant.com/ubisoft-microtransaction-sales/ EA is the same. I guess any major publisher with a GaaS/MTX scheme is going to report more or less the same result. They can't stop because if they do, their market position may be compromised and then they risk being bought out by someone bigger... who in all likelihood engages in those practices anyway. And if they don't stop, they'll be the ones buying studios up, milking them for all they are worth, and running them into the ground. Win/win scenario, right? In any case, the idea is to cater to rich people by giving them the means to also display status symbols online and "stand out from the crowd"—that's literally the raison d'être of luxury items. You can only have this e-lambo if you open the $10k worth of lootboxes that we estimate it'll cost you to get it, based on drop odds. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Ubisoft made most of its revenue last year from "Player Recurring Investment", why should they stop if people are buying them? Plus if the games are so compromised by the inclusion of microtransactions you can easily not buy them. I don't get the rage over this stuff and getting the government involved is just going end up backfiring. https://gamerant.com/ubisoft-microtransaction-sales/ EA is the same. I guess any major publisher with a GaaS/MTX scheme is going to report more or less the same result. They can't stop because if they do, their market position may be compromised and then they risk being bought out by someone bigger... who in all likelihood engages in those practices anyway. And if they don't stop, they'll be the ones buying studios up, milking them for all they are worth, and running them into the ground. Win/win scenario, right? In any case, the idea is to cater to rich people by giving them the means to also display status symbols online and "stand out from the crowd"—that's literally the raison d'être of luxury items. You can only have this e-lambo if you open the $10k worth of lootboxes that we estimate it'll cost you to get it, based on drop odds. Except that a lot of those companies did get bought out by someone bigger. Tencent comes to mind since they had one of the biggest revenues last year in the industry and they own various stock on game developer studios. Microtransactions work well because of the relative low cost of production vs the high sell value, I don't see studios abandoning them anytime soon, although I don't know where that leaves pure single player experiences. Luckily there are a lot of mid level studios covering that market. Additionally with Microsoft beginning to acquire studios I wonder if other big companies that want to start developing their own content will follow suit. Amazon also bought out some studios but no one of consequence. I guess we will likely see a period of expansion for smaller companies followed by consolidation as they're absorbed by the bigger studios. Kinda of a repeat of the era of 2005 to 2011. I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marelooke Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 SkillUp's Fallout 76 review dropped. And hoooo boy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) So I just found out that playing multiplayer on PS4 costs money. You have to spend like 8€ / month for a PS-Plus membership. Damn, console peasants are getting milked like crazy. Everything costs muchos monetos.Buying a whole year of PS Plus at a time is by far the cheapest option and you do get free games every month, good ones too. Still does suck to have to pay for multiplayer though. If you just signed up snag Yakuza Kiwami, Bulletstorm, and Roundabout before the month is up. Just add them to your account and they're yours forever. You can download them whenever. Edited November 24, 2018 by Keyrock RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitalis Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 So I just found out that playing multiplayer on PS4 costs money. You have to spend like 8€ / month for a PS-Plus membership. Damn, console peasants are getting milked like crazy. Everything costs muchos monetos.Buying a whole year of PS Plus at a time is by far the cheapest option and you do get free games every month, good ones too. Still does suck to have to pay for multiplayer though. If you just signed up snag Yakuza Kiwami, Bulletstorm, and Roundabout before the month is up. Just add them to your account and they're yours forever. You can download them whenever. I was under the impression that the games disappeared if your subscription ran out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SonicMage117 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I was under the impression that the games disappeared if your subscription ran out. That is what happened with me on PS3, couldn't play the 30 games I got "free", had my PS4 since launch but haven't ever had PS+ on it so I'm not too certain if it operates the same or non. Just what do you think you're doing?! You dare to come between me and my prey? Is it a habit of yours to scurry about, getting in the way and causing bother? What are you still bothering me for? I'm a Knight. I'm not interested in your childish games. I need my rest. Begone! Lest I draw my nail... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katphood Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 (edited) The games are yours to keep but you can only play them so long as you have an active PS Plus subscription. It's 60 bucks a year. Edited November 24, 2018 by Katphood There used to be a signature here, a really cool one...and now it's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 hah sounds helluva like ransom 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lexx Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Sadly I don't play enough (console) games for that. Hell, I rarely play games anyway. Usually I'm just working on my projects and then won't have time to do anything else. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 hah sounds helluva like ransom Well that’s typical subscription model, which makes all of the actiUbiEaT2 execs wet all night long... Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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