Bartimaeus Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) In this political climate, I don't think conservative America would even entertain the idea of making all candidates submit to physical and mental tests. Maybe physical, but definitely not mental...and I kind of have my own misgivings about the latter, too. I think most people have mental issues of some kind - some more serious that can interfere with doing your job and your life in general, and some much less so. If the results of these tests were revealed to the public, both sides would just weaponize them against each other, and eventually the political parties would just try to find candidates who'll get a totally clean bill of health - or candidates who can at least fake their way through. So much of mental health diagnostics require the subject to answer honestly with the intent of getting the correct diagnosis: I don't want to encourage even more liars and sociopaths to pursue our highest offices than we already do. And if you don't reveal the results publicly, what's the purpose of screening? Would you give psychologists the power to unilaterally eliminate candidates for reasons they won't divulge? No, I just don't think most people would go for that - I think even many liberals and progressives would probably take issue to that. Edited December 13, 2017 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance.
Volourn Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 "I don't think that's entirely true - keyword being "entirely". The voting splits suggested that white turnout was horrible - but what whites did vote voted for him (instead of the Dem) at about the same percentage as normal. That happened almost certainly because of the controversy (especially when the large write-in count was almost certainly because of what would've been Republican voters deciding he was not worth their vote). On the other hand, yes, black voters had great turnout (saying that America was better when slavery was still around probably wasn't the wisest choice of words, as indirectly as he said it), and a little over 95% of all black voters went for Jones. " The same thing happened to Moore that happened to Clinton. The people who were supposed to be part of his base either a0 voted for him as expected or b) just didn't bother to vote as they didn't want to vote for the opponent. That happened to Clinton largely with the black vote. % wise she won their vote as expected but many blacks (especially men) had no interest in voting for the older white woman no matter her opponent so they didn't bother to show up. 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Hurlshort Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 DC would be a ghost town if people had to pass mental health tests. Of course, so would Hollywood. 2
Volourn Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) So would the world. In fact, this thread would not exist if people in it needed to pass a mental test. Edited December 13, 2017 by Volourn 1 DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Agiel Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) What for? Will it change anything? Trump 2020! It will make for some fine entertainment. Polish Trump fanboys are amusing to no end, especially when they spam 'Trump 2020' everywhere. I'm actually beginning to question whether Sharp is actually Polish and not some Russian troll-farm keyboard warrior given how he's somehow oblivious to the "Immigrant Polish Plumber" stereotype that's so prevalent in Europe. Edited December 13, 2017 by Agiel Quote “Political philosophers have often pointed out that in wartime, the citizen, the male citizen at least, loses one of his most basic rights, his right to life; and this has been true ever since the French Revolution and the invention of conscription, now an almost universally accepted principle. But these same philosophers have rarely noted that the citizen in question simultaneously loses another right, one just as basic and perhaps even more vital for his conception of himself as a civilized human being: the right not to kill.” -Jonathan Littell <<Les Bienveillantes>> Quote "The chancellor, the late chancellor, was only partly correct. He was obsolete. But so is the State, the entity he worshipped. Any state, entity, or ideology becomes obsolete when it stockpiles the wrong weapons: when it captures territories, but not minds; when it enslaves millions, but convinces nobody. When it is naked, yet puts on armor and calls it faith, while in the Eyes of God it has no faith at all. Any state, any entity, any ideology that fails to recognize the worth, the dignity, the rights of Man...that state is obsolete." -Rod Serling
Malcador Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 So would the world. In fact, this thread would not exist if people in it needed to pass a mental test. Only the insane are truly sane. 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 I did read something where a bunch of horse people were questioning his form and riding ability.
Tagaziel Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 I'm actually beginning to question whether Sharp is actually Polish and not some Russian troll-farm keyboard warrior given how he's somehow oblivious to the "Immigrant Polish Plumber" stereotype that's so prevalent in Europe. Unfortunately, this kind of cluelessness isn't uncommon in Poland. HMIC for: [ The Wasteland Wiki ] [ Pillars of Eternity Wiki ] [ Tyranny Wiki ]
aluminiumtrioxid Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 I'm actually beginning to question whether Sharp is actually Polish and not some Russian troll-farm keyboard warrior given how he's somehow oblivious to the "Immigrant Polish Plumber" stereotype that's so prevalent in Europe. Unfortunately, this kind of cluelessness isn't uncommon in Poland. Granted, judging by sharpie's posts, other kinds of cluelessness aren't either "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
Gfted1 Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 YEAH! Personal attacks! WoooHoooo! Oh wait... Thank goodness he wasn't wearing spurs! PETA would have been all over his ass. But he was using reins, which attaches to a bit, which hurts the horse every time you try to steer or stop, so I guess they can go after him for that. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Malcador Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 I must be missing something, but what's the sarcasm about PETA and such for ? You think Moore's catching flak unjustly ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gfted1 Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 No, I think hes a run-of-the-mill dirtbag. I just want to pile on! No slight left unsquealed! "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Hurlshort Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 YEAH! Personal attacks! WoooHoooo! Oh wait... Thank goodness he wasn't wearing spurs! PETA would have been all over his ass. But he was using reins, which attaches to a bit, which hurts the horse every time you try to steer or stop, so I guess they can go after him for that. No, I mean he apparently doesn't know how to ride a horse properly. I can't speak with any expertise, as I don't either, but I don't parade my lack of skill in front of camera crews.
Raithe Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 This is one I was very tempted to put in the funny things thread... NY Daily News - Why the trumps NY mayoral votes didn't count President Trump and his family of New Yorkers were not in the Big Apple Nov. 7 when voters went the polls, so they voted by absentee ballot. Or at least they tried to. Officials at the city's Board of Elections said the President signed and dated an absentee ballot along with an application on Oct. 19, checking a box that said he would be absent from the city on Election Day. First Lady Melania Trump did the same, submitting a handwritten form that had everything in capital letters. But the First Lady did not sign the envelope she put the ballot in as required by BOE, so her vote wasn’t counted. Trump's daughter Ivanka also botched her ballot. It was filled out correctly, but she didn’t mail it until Election Day—which was too late to be counted, officials said. Her husband, Jared Kushner, didn't mail his back at all, according to the board. Officials said the President’s ballot was fine. But that was before the Daily News pointed out to an official that the date of birth on his application was a full month off. Trump, 71, was born on June 14, 1946, but his ballot application lists his birthday as July. 2 "Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."
Zoraptor Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 Trump just wanted to be born on Bastille Day, that's how committed he is to the principles of freedom!
aluminiumtrioxid Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 No, I think hes a run-of-the-mill dirtbag. I just want to pile on! No slight left unsquealed! what did he mean by this "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
HoonDing Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 he loves horses... and children The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
smjjames Posted December 13, 2017 Posted December 13, 2017 (edited) As for the horse, it also seemed like the horse wasn't used to crowds or at least all the noise or something. Which was probably on top of what he was doing, but you'd think he would bring one who is used to crowds, or he doesn't care. @Raithe: Was it Trump that did that with the birthday month or was it a typo on whoever typed it up? Edited December 13, 2017 by smjjames
smjjames Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) So, uh, anybody miss the drama in the WH? Because there was apparently some (though unclear just how much drama) over Omarosa being fired. https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/12/13/16773148/omarosa-trump-white-house-drama http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/364827-omarosa-tripped-white-house-alarms-report And apparently Rep Farenthold is a major a-hole to guys as well: https://www.axios.com/farenthold-faces-new-allegations-from-male-staffer-2517281611.html?utm_medium=linkshare&utm_campaign=organic The comment he made to the guys fiance is sexual, yes, but it's just pure a-holery there. Edited December 14, 2017 by smjjames
BruceVC Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 Trump 2020!Sharp_one what would be the main reasons you like Trump Please be honest, I can guess but I would rather not His politics and his stand against the liberal agenda. That would be the main. What was your guess? Trump 2020! Similar to your own and I would have added something like " there is perception or view that in some parts of the world white, males are being blamed for certain unfair things or generalizations are made about them around what they can or cant do. It seems to be some sort of campaign or narrative. Its nebulous but does seem to exist " I have seen this before. I am collecting as much data to explain why people support Trump "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Chilloutman Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 and first victim of #meetoo (I know about) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/13/kentucky-republican-dan-johnson-death 1 I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
BruceVC Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 and first victim of #meetoo (I know about) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/13/kentucky-republican-dan-johnson-death He definitely took the easy way out, avoid all that media attention and eventual jail time I probably would have done the same "Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss” John Milton "We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” - George Bernard Shaw "What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela
Chilloutman Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 (edited) and first victim of #meetoo (I know about) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/13/kentucky-republican-dan-johnson-death He definitely took the easy way out, avoid all that media attention and eventual jail time I probably would have done the same what are you talking about? Police dropped that case. Are all people mad these days? You are ok with ruining peoples lives without trial? wtf Edited December 14, 2017 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
aluminiumtrioxid Posted December 14, 2017 Posted December 14, 2017 and first victim of #meetoo (I know about) https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/13/kentucky-republican-dan-johnson-death He definitely took the easy way out, avoid all that media attention and eventual jail time I probably would have done the same what are you talking about? Police dropped that case. Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. "Innocent until proven guilty" is fine and good, but when guilt is extremely difficult to prove, "he was clearly a pure soul cruelly bullied into suicide" is hardly the only way to interpret events. "Lulz is not the highest aspiration of art and mankind, no matter what the Encyclopedia Dramatica says."
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