Chilloutman Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 (edited) SO, dawn of Germany is near, and people are surprised when someone want to get out of Union of European socialistic republics http://www.dw.com/en/court-rules-against-böhmermanns-erdogan-poem/a-37490204 as would Gromnir state HA! Good fun! Edited February 10, 2017 by Chilloutman I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
HoonDing Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 "SO, dawn of Germany is near, and people are surprised when someone want to get out of Union of European socialistic republics" This sentence does not make sense. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Blarghagh Posted February 10, 2017 Posted February 10, 2017 I feel like doing the first part of the classic "I'm the goddamned Batman" rant but I'll hold back. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Je_suis_Charlie 1
Darkpriest Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I feel like you are referring to Charlie Chaplins great dictator, but I don't get how Charlie Hebdo - freedom of press, terrorist attacks, etc.? rings a bell?
Elerond Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Germany has had long time now law that forbids slandering heads of foreign states. This year they seem to try to abolish that law, but it is still in effect. One main reason for abolishing that law is probably this case.
Lexx Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 It is. Before that, nobody really remembered the law exists at all. No idea what happens next. I guess they will go into revision or something, because the reasoning and what exactly has been banned is very shaky. Also, as far as I've read about it now, the ruling pretty much goes against the other court rulings that happened before in this case. "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Darkpriest Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Germany has had long time now law that forbids slandering heads of foreign states. This year they seem to try to abolish that law, but it is still in effect. One main reason for abolishing that law is probably this case. Funnily, it did not work when it was Polish president being mocked like 10 years ago, or American president, or name a few more. Suddenly it works when it's Turkey involved, where majority of German muslims are coming from and where that state is blackmailing EU in terms of ME migrants crisis. Edited February 11, 2017 by Darkpriest
Gfted1 Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Germany has had long time now law that forbids slandering heads of foreign states. This year they seem to try to abolish that law, but it is still in effect. One main reason for abolishing that law is probably this case. I feel like I'm missing some information so can you tell me the difference? The comic in the linked OP was charged under the slander law for a poem about a head of state but didn't a magazine recently run a cover of Trump beheading the State of Liberty. What's the difference? "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa"
Lexx Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 The difference is that Erdogan sued, Trump did not. 1 "only when you no-life you can exist forever, because what does not live cannot die."
Hurlshort Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I feel like you are referring to Charlie Chaplins great dictator, but I don't get how Charlie Hebdo - freedom of press, terrorist attacks, etc.? rings a bell? Always good to remember that Ben is young and his point of references are not the same as many of us. Charlie Hebdo was two years ago, and while I am sure he is familiar with it, it probably did not have the same impact if he was 12 or 13. That is something I always try and remind myself in the classroom. My students did not live through 9/11, Columbine, or many of the other major events that shaped the world we live in.
Chilloutman Posted February 11, 2017 Author Posted February 11, 2017 I feel like you are referring to Charlie Chaplins great dictator, but I don't get how Charlie Hebdo - freedom of press, terrorist attacks, etc.? rings a bell? Always good to remember that Ben is young and his point of references are not the same as many of us. Charlie Hebdo was two years ago, and while I am sure he is familiar with it, it probably did not have the same impact if he was 12 or 13. That is something I always try and remind myself in the classroom. My students did not live through 9/11, Columbine, or many of the other major events that shaped the world we live in. oh my bad, i though he is 18 or something I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene"
HoonDing Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Fake news. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Varana Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 It's the Daily Mail. Trust them to twist things (or report them completely wrong). Therefore I have sailed the seas and come To the holy city of Byzantium. -W.B. Yeats Χριστός ἀνέστη!
Zoraptor Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Posting articles from well known and confirmed fascist newspaper the Daily Mail? Why are you reading a commie newspaper, oby_one? Won't be suffering from anaemia any time soon with that dose of irony.
213374U Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Why are you reading a commie newspaper, oby_one? Probably the sidebar with all the trashy reality TV broads. I know it's why I do. - When he is best, he is a little worse than a man, and when he is worst, he is little better than a beast.
Hurlshort Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 (edited) Is that a compliment? Besides, "12 or 13".... -.- 14 or 15? It's not really the point, and it isn't a compliment or an insult, just a reminder that we all come from different perspectives, and age is a major part of that. edit: The age was a guess as to how old you were when the Charlie Hebdo massacre happened. Edited February 11, 2017 by Hurlshot
HoonDing Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I read 'Thus spoke Zarathustra' when I was 12. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Varana Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 I don't know what daily mail is an I don't care. The story is legit and is reported in by numerous media. There are some facts hidden in there that are legit. The story as presented - including context, implications, and general impression on the reader - isn't. Therefore I have sailed the seas and come To the holy city of Byzantium. -W.B. Yeats Χριστός ἀνέστη!
Malcador Posted February 11, 2017 Posted February 11, 2017 Yeah, I always go with Charybdis. 3 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Hurlshort Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I didn't read the article. Just assumed it would be a solid article about the issue because it was the top link in google.Oh well, guess I should only stick to Breitbart then. Yes, that sounds like the lesson you should learn here.
Gromnir Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I don't know what daily mail is an I don't care. The story is legit and is reported in by numerous media.There are some facts hidden in there that are legit.The story as presented - including context, implications, and general impression on the reader - isn't. I didn't read the article. Just assumed it would be a solid article about the issue because it was the top link in google. Oh well, guess I should only stick to Breitbart then. similar thinking had a boardie posting joshua goldberg as their source. the internet is a dangerous place for the lazy and stoopid. don't be one o' those people, or soon you will be skeptical o' vaccinations, a fan of putin and/or a voter for trump/brexit. HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Wrath of Dagon Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Is this source approved by the brain trust? http://heatst.com/culture-wars/angela-merkel-will-expel-asylum-seekers-from-germany-as-support-for-muslim-migrants-collapses/ "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan
Malcador Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I read the article. There is nothing wrong with it. Again some guys are just biased towards anything their agenda doesn't support. I could post the article in three different languages but some are to lazy and stoopid to know any other language. Ha! Good fun! Ah, tales of woe and persecution. The injustice. You should have just posted the article in the languages, surprisingly people would get it translated or the array of languages understood across this forum might be used. Also, is fairly ignorant to use that as a marker of intelligence, but ironies abound. But also, yeah, the Daily Mail was fake news before it was cool, they're like the Sun minus the **** (though, Joey Fisher IS nice, it isn't something one reads a paper for) Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra
Gromnir Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 I read the article. There is nothing wrong with it. you posted the article before you read it. ... you "assumed it would be a solid article about the issue because it was the top link in google." ... wouldn't matter at this point if it turned out the article were pulitzer material, 'cause you didn't know anything save for its placement as a top google link. HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
Gromnir Posted February 12, 2017 Posted February 12, 2017 Ha! Good Fun! not getting it, are you? we were dismissive o' your admitted blind posting o' an article you didn't even bother to read, and your defense o' such ridiculous behavior. the fact you still don't grasp your error only compounds the mistake you made, and increases our mirth. serious. how is this not getting through to you? HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019)
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