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This is a terrible tragedy, and I hope they take down ISIS hard after this.

 

But I'm also pretty amazed how quickly you folks turn this into a crusade against Islam.  This had everything to do with a terrorist organization targeting France.  The refugees are trying to get AWAY from these cretins.   

I won't be surprised if it comes out that many of these animals that struck tonight came in as refugees. I have nothing by sympathy for the innocents in the middle east but the truth is I would not trade the life of one American, or Canadian, or Frenchmen, or Russian, or Briton or (insert European/African/Pacific nation here) if it would save every man woman and child from Syria to Tehran.

 

You can't keep the roaches out unless you shut the door.

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Sure, the overwhelming majority of them are muslim but don't you suggest there is any problem with islam... Yes, it's not all of them but it's enough of them to justify questioning both their culture and how the bleeding heart white guilt "tolerance" lets the worst of them walk amongst you.

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Thats what happens when you let your guard down and go with an extremely political correct course.  

 

My condolences go to the people killed and their families, who, as always, have to pay for the incompetence of a few. 

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So we have over 140 dead people and 4 dead terrorists. France is the weakest link due to how many muslims from ME and Africa they accepted in the last 30 years, next is either UK or Germany, after that we have Spain, then Scandinavians and Italy.

 

Keep inviting retards from ME and Africa and not allow to migrants from East EU and Far East...

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Nah, not until it will start actively support fights in ME. Swe is too laid back and not involved in geo politics to be a target for now, it will become once other countries will be in deep **** and a new place will have to start burning.

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Well, people are somehow forgetting, that one of the biggest terrorist actions in Europe in last decade was made by white straight male...

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The refugees are trying to get AWAY from these cretins.   

 

Yep.

 

Though the catastrophic way in which they've been handled means that it would be very easy for extremists to infiltrate Europe I'd suspect that it will be primarily or solely 2nd gen French rather than refugees, much as it was last time.

 

There's plenty of degrees of blame to be thrown around but nobody else caused this other than those who perpetrated it.

 

Well, people are somehow forgetting, that one of the biggest terrorist actions in Europe in last decade was made by white straight male...

 

I wouldn't be surprised if some people were actually more angry at Breivik for not being muslim than for killing dozens of people.

 

This sort of event always sends some people sociopathic, at least if you take them at their word.

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Obola on ISIS: "We Have Contained Them" just today. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/13/obama_on_isis_we_have_contained_them.html

 

This is the result of ending terrorist interrogations, restricting surveillance, and open borders.

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I won't be surprised if it comes out that many of these animals that struck tonight came in as refugees. 

 

 

I would be surprised.  These were guys with guns and bombs, they had resources and support.  ISIS doesn't need to send fighters through the refugee lines, they have better ways to get their crazy radicals on foreign soil.  The Charlie Hebdo attackers were born and raised in France.  

 

I am sure we will find out soon enough.

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Say what you will about former Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbot but he did have this to say a couple of weeks ago.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-10-28/tony-abbott-urges-european-leaders-to-turn-back-asylum-seekers/6890886

 

 


He outlined his concern that "misguided altruism" was "...leading much of Europe into catastrophic error".

 

"No country or continent can open its borders to all comers without fundamentally weakening itself," he said.

 

He cautioned, "too much mercy for some necessarily undermines justice for all".

 

Well, France has closed its borders. I assume this mean no flights in and out of France as well?

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Obola on ISIS: "We Have Contained Them" just today. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/11/13/obama_on_isis_we_have_contained_them.html

 

This is the result of ending terrorist interrogations, restricting surveillance, and open borders.

Well, despite that assertion being a bit comic, ISIS being contained and all (then again that's a decent weasel word). Not sure that ending torture really hurt the cause, not did limiting surveillance. Price of a free country is being open to this kind of attack and all.

 

Wonder what France's response will be, Hollande's words and all.

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I'd expect that folks will play bleeding hearts for days and pretend like they are personally victimized by the attacks.

 

People in power would likely take harder stance towards Muslims after this anyway. They'd be a fool not to, although they are foolish in the first place by accepting so much immigrants coming from war torn places, do they really think average people coming from impoverished countries will be nice and orderly?

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 I have nothing by sympathy for the innocents in the middle east but the truth is I would not trade the life of one American, or Canadian, or Frenchmen, or Russian, or Briton or (insert European/African/Pacific nation here) if it would save every man woman and child from Syria to Tehran.

 

 

Your sympathy doesn't seem to be worth much. You would seriously let every single man, woman, and child from Syria to Tehran die for a single life of a member of a European/African/Pacific nation? WTF?

 

There lives are just as valuable as ours or anyone else's. Not that I'm saying anyone is or isn't obligated to let in the migrants, but seriously, I hope this was a case of hyperbole on your part.

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You gotta admit it's really bad PR for Islam. People want easy solutions, they are always looking for scapegoats, so when something like this happens they wonder what else is wrong with the muslim religion, since it has so much room for this kind of thing. 

 

There aren't that many religions where you so often hear of people shouting 'god is great' while committing atrocities, not anymore anyway. Of course it's all politics and all shades of gray, and religion is just a tool in an asymmetrical battlefield. 

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You gotta admit it's really bad PR for Islam. People want easy solutions, they are always looking for scapegoats, so when something like this happens they wonder what else is wrong with the muslim religion, since it has so much room for this kind of thing. 

 

There aren't that many religions where you so often hear of people shouting 'god is great' while committing atrocities, not anymore anyway. Of course it's all politics and all shades of gray, and religion is just a tool in an asymmetrical battlefield. 

It has less to do with specific religion and more with the region from where it all comes from. I live in Russia and we have millions of muslims, and most of them don't cause any problems whatsoever. 

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In my mind the best way to respond to these attacks is not to let yourself be taken over by emotions of fear or anger and paranoia of everyone who looks Middle-Eastern. Because that's exactly what these terrorists want.

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