Malcador Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Pirate Bay's response to the UK ISP bans - http://thepiratebay.se/blog TPB gets censored in the UK The Western countries of the world all complaints about the censorship in Iran, China, Saudi Arabia and so on. But they are really the worst culprits themselves, having double morals in doing an even worse thing themselves. Today news was out that the UK high court has decided that TPB is "massively infringing on copyright". The facts that no copyright is being infringed upon here at the site was not a welcome fact, so that was ignored apparantly. Noone from TPB was invited to the court case, which would be normal to do in a democracy. This is not the first time this happens, it's been the same in most countries we're censored in. We have no right to speak since we're not rich. Five ISPs got sued by the record companies to force them to block us. This is particularily interesting since music released and promoted exclusively here on TPB is currently in the brittish top charts. We are simply competitors that they just managed to squeeze out of their market, in a maffiesque way. As usual there are easy ways to circumvent the block. Use a VPN service to be anonymous and get an uncensored internet access, you should do this anyhow. Or use TOR, I2P or some other darknet with access to the internets. Change your DNS settings with OpenDNS. Or use googles DNS servers... we could go on... But don't forget that we can't allow this **** to happen. Next time they're coming for something else. And yes, there will be a next time if we don't stop them. Write to your ISP and tell them to appeal the case. Write to your local MPs and tell them that this is not allowed. Make sure your voice is heard. Remember, we're all the pirate bay, and we must stand united against the censorship from our opponents! 1 Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Im surprised they havent figured out some way to send an electrical pulse back to the servers and simply fry them. "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfosse Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) Pirate Bay's response to the UK ISP bans - http://thepiratebay.se/blog Anyone surprised? There's no freedom (of speech or other) in the West. It's a big joke. Edited May 1, 2012 by Delfosse 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaesun Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Don't we already have a piracy thread? Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Pirate Bay's response to the UK ISP bans - http://thepiratebay.se/blog Anyone surprised? There's no freedom (of speech or other) in the West. It's a big joke. I know, where will this respect of basic property rights end, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Don't we already have a piracy thread? This is not about piracy, this is about censorship... Just read the link https://torrentfreak.com/pirate-bay-boosts-sharing-is-caring-into-the-music-charts-120427/ They cut Dan Bull and other people like him from promoting their music in UK... What does this have to do with piracy? Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 It's weird how the people who always rant about the West not having free speech and censoring rarely live in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfosse Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) I know, where will this respect of basic property rights end, eh? 1- Torrents aren't used exclusively for pirating. I download approximately 10-15 gigabytes per month of historical and political shows that aired in Russia on free television channels. That's just one of the million examples to use torrents legitimately. 2- What do you qualify as basic property rights, as opposed to advanced property rights? Owning physical objects such as apartment and a car is basic. Owning rights to a certain sequence of ones and zeros, that once decoded with a certain algorithm, turn into singing of words (that may have been "stolen" from previous singers), how is that simple? A singing that you did just once, then went home and made millions from it, that's not "basic", because it raises questions. How do you own rights of a sequence of ones and zeros? For how long should it remain YOUR property? How many millions is a person allowed to make yearly, since our resources aren't unlimited and by making so much money, your slow down humanity's progress, and since certain amounts of money are immoral, especially since they come from simple luck and no real useful accomplishment? Keep in mind, that money could be spent on research and development, or on sick kids, or on medical research for cancer. It's basic to you because you make absolutely no distinction between malum prohibitum and malum in se, which is a common trait of Westerners. If something is prohibited by law, then it must be bad (even if it isn't). If something isn't, then it must be good (even if it isn't). Independent thinking is frowned upon. 3- There can be models, in which private property in cultural and entertainment spheres doesn't exist, simply because those are essential to human beings, like medicine. Depriving people of such is one of the most inhuman ways to treat anyone. Providing a poor with a digital copy of his favorite song that he can't afford and WOULDN'T have afforded anyway (which means nobody loses anything), is it really a crime? Is it a crime that a kid whose parents are poor or simply don't spend money on him, gets to listen to someone sing? What a grim world you must live in. Nothing is simple about digital content. Edited May 1, 2012 by Delfosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gfted1 Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 "I'm your biggest fan, Ill follow you until you love me, Papa" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Whoa. I agree with the basic point that there is no such thing as 'inherent' property rights, and especially intellectual property is a particular historical construction rather than founded on a consistent set of ethics, but that's a whole load of equally artificial assumptions and judgments you're bringing in there. Anyway, feel free to create a thread on this or find an existing one, but let's keep this one for game news... Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 (edited) I know, where will this respect of basic property rights end, eh? 1- Torrents aren't used exclusively for pirating. I download approximately 10-15 gigabytes per month of historical and political shows that aired in Russia on free television channels. That's just one of the million examples to use torrents legitimately. 2- What do you qualify as basic property rights, as opposed to advanced property rights? Owning physical objects such as apartment and a car is basic. Owning rights to a certain sequence of ones and zeros, that once decoded with a certain algorithm, turn into singing of words (that may have been "stolen" from previous singers), how is that simple? A singing that you did just once, then went home and made millions from it, that's not "basic", because it raises questions. How do you own rights of a sequence of ones and zeros? For how long should it remain YOUR property? How many millions is a person allowed to make yearly, since our resources aren't unlimited and by making so much money, your slow down humanity's progress, and since certain amounts of money are immoral, especially since they come from simple luck and no real useful accomplishment? Keep in mind, that money could be spent on research and development, or on sick kids, or on medical research for cancer. It's basic to you because you make absolutely no distinction between malum prohibitum and malum in se, which is a common trait of Westerners. If something is prohibited by law, then it must be bad (even if it isn't). If something isn't, then it must be good (even if it isn't). Independent thinking is frowned upon. 3- There can be models, in which private property in cultural and entertainment spheres doesn't exist, simply because those are essential to human beings, like medicine. Depriving people of such is one of the most inhuman ways to treat anyone. Providing a poor with a digital copy of his favorite song that he can't afford and WOULDN'T have afforded anyway (which means nobody loses anything), is it really a crime? Is it a crime that a kid whose parents are poor or simply don't spend money on him, gets to listen to someone sing? What a grim world you must live in. Nothing is simple about digital content. I don't really give a rat's arse about your definiton mate. The law in the UK regarding copyright is clear. The UK is entitled to operate within it's jurisdiction regarding the same. On a personal level, I've just written a book. It's with a publisher. It took me a long time to write, and if you want to read it you pay for it. Whining about free access to other people's labour just because it's in code doesn't cut any ice with me. Grow up. Edited May 1, 2012 by Monte Carlo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 LOL Britain. That's what is happening when your country is run by a bunch of entitled Oxford college-kids that think they can wield power like an absolute monarch. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 The crazy train is really picking up speed in this thread. Maybe we should talk about something less controversial, like the ending of Mass Effect 3. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted May 1, 2012 Author Share Posted May 1, 2012 Who's being crazy here ? Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entrerix Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 How many millions is a person allowed to make yearly, since our resources aren't unlimited and by making so much money, your slow down humanity's progress, and since certain amounts of money are immoral, especially since they come from simple luck and no real useful accomplishment? I wish i were this drunk Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted May 1, 2012 Share Posted May 1, 2012 Who's being crazy here ? People who believe this has anything to do with censorship? Funny how they always try to play that card every time such ugly concepts as accountability and similar rears their ugly head. In an ideal world, you would have an internet that didn't get monitored by authorities constantly and where there was no anonymity whatsoever. Then people would always have to face up to their actions. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 I guess they'll have to start actively screening for a whole host of things. Probably should have brought the TPB folk in to hear from them, but eh, is Britain. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azdeus Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 LOL Britain. That's what is happening when your country is run by a bunch of entitled Oxford college-kids that think they can wield power like an absolute monarch. Such juicy things as their libel laws and now this. Britain really likes free speech it would seem. Civilization, in fact, grows more and more maudlin and hysterical; especially under democracy it tends to degenerate into a mere combat of crazes; the whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary. - H.L. Mencken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orogun01 Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 So hacking phones it's ok but hacking the pop charts it's wrong. Britain its a confusing place I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgon Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 TPB has never once in its history attempted to remove copyrighted content. half hearted attempts were made by both Mininova and ISOhunt and others concerned with their long term survival. People go there to get illegal ****, and maybe they check out whatever band is being promoted as well. Lets call a spade a spade people. 1 Na na na na na na ... greg358 from Darksouls 3 PVP is a CHEATER. That is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfosse Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) I don't really give a rat's arse about your definiton mate. The law in the UK regarding copyright is clear. The UK is entitled to operate within it's jurisdiction regarding the same. On a personal level, I've just written a book. It's with a publisher. It took me a long time to write, and if you want to read it you pay for it. Whining about free access to other people's labour just because it's in code doesn't cut any ice with me. Grow up. I knew you didn't give a flying **** about any of it right when I saw your post. Cause you wrote a book. And you're so superior now. A writer, not like that everyday scum! Not like everyone else around who is just a biological waste, and if they want to read your oeuvre d'art, they have to pay you cause you're a genius. I know people like you, buddy. You're not surprising anyone, nor do you look unique with your "i don't give a **** about anyone but myself" approach. Behold the typical byproduct of post-modernity. In case you're wondering - no, I don't want to read your book. But if I did, I'd probably go to a store and read it there legally and then I wouldn't buy it, just to piss you off. But hey, since it's legal, means it's okay (morally good!), by your own logic. In an ideal world, you would have an internet that didn't get monitored by authorities constantly and where there was no anonymity whatsoever. Then people would always have to face up to their actions. If you had to face up for your last action, my friend, I don't think you would've liked that And hey, good news for you, they already did that in China, everyone has to register in MMOs and on forums with their passport! China as in "the country that takes the last spot in the countries graded by freedom of speech". I think you should move there, or Saudi Arabia, especially since you're big on travel. Edited May 2, 2012 by Delfosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted May 2, 2012 Author Share Posted May 2, 2012 Idon't really give a rat's arse about your definiton mate. The law in the UK regarding copyright is clear. The UK is entitled to operate within it's jurisdiction regarding the same. On a personal level, I've just written a book. It's with a publisher. It took me a long time to write, and if you want to read it you pay for it. Whining about free access to other people's labour just because it's in code doesn't cut any ice with me. Grow up. To be fair, I doubt your book'd be pirated. Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorth Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 If you had to face up for your last action, my friend, I don't think you would've liked that Try harder. And hey, good news for you, they already did that in China, everyone has to register in MMOs and on forums with their passport! China as in "the country that takes the last spot in the countries graded by freedom of speech". I think you should move there, or Saudi Arabia, especiallyg since you're big on travel. False dichotomy. Try shopping online for strawmen. You are burning them up at an alarming rate. “He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.” - Albert Einstein Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfosse Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) So are you saying you're actually for freedom of speech? Reread what you wrote. It didn't make any sense "i want freedom of speech and total anonymity, then everyone will be held accountable", I just assumed you meant "i DONT want freedom of speech", because how the **** are you gonna hold everyone accountable if you don't know who they are.... ah never mind. I know you hate expression of opinions that don't coincide with yours. Seriously, Muslim Brotherhood is recruiting. And you love fancy quotes. You're the perfect candidate. Edited May 2, 2012 by Delfosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfosse Posted May 2, 2012 Share Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) To be fair, I doubt your book'd be pirated. Fair point. You too noticed he wrote "within it's jurisdiction"? I don't think he actually has a book. Maybe a comic book? Because frankly, illiterate writer = division by zero. Edited May 2, 2012 by Delfosse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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