Labadal Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 The battle system on console needed to be redone for a sequel. It was playable, but not the best I have seen. Despite that I had a great time with the game.
Tale Posted October 12, 2010 Posted October 12, 2010 And the geek's belief that any difference of opinion and a successful resolution of an internet argument gives you the rights to the losers catgirl... I need to start more arguments over the internet... Just keep in mind that by 'catgirls' he meant 'furries'. Now, if that's your thing, great for you. Most of us avoid internet arguments for exactly that reason. The old bait and switch! "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Orogun01 Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 And the geek's belief that any difference of opinion and a successful resolution of an internet argument gives you the rights to the losers catgirl... I need to start more arguments over the internet... Just keep in mind that by 'catgirls' he meant 'furries'. Now, if that's your thing, great for you. Most of us avoid internet arguments for exactly that reason. What's a furry? I'd say the answer to that question is kind of like the answer to "who's the sucker in this poker game?"* *If you can't tell, it's you.
Volourn Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 "If the system was indeed perfect as you say" Who is this 'you' you are speaking of as it surely isn't me since I said no such thing. Don't put words into my post. "And if Bioware feel indeed the need to change the combat system to come "in the way of the audience" (Laidlaw's words in a famous interview) it seems to me that those change were needed to adjust the game to the consolle (even the first DA2's preview in Game Informer imply such things talking about focus group feedback's and such). " DA got high ratings on console including combat. The fact they made chanegs for DA2 means very little since they changed ME2 rom ME1 despite ME being successful. BIO probably changes thinsg up so they can hear less whining about 'making the same game repeatedly' (heh like that will happen) and instyead get told they're 'dumbing things down. Then again, BG1 was probably BIO's most dumbed down game other than KOTOR which is dumbed down personified. "focus group feedback's and such" Focus groups are funny. They're no more reliable to be trustworthy than internet geeks like us. It's funny how people are saying how horrible DA is now considering the success it had including the mega praise it got everywhere including here with only the Codex bashing it but that's par for the course. Including the combat. And, of course, BIO is gonna say the combat is improved. That's how they pimp it. They alreayd got our $ for DA1 now they need our $ for DA2 so no way are they gonna say yeah DAQ1 is betetr than DA2. No way no how. They're gonna tell you that DA2 does everything better than DA1 because that's how they will push it. Afterall, if BIO says DA is better than DA2 why would anyone wnat to buy DA2 when they can just playu DA1? Does not compute. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Oblarg Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Nah, it's not possible that I legitimately didn't enjoy DA. I'm simply bashing it to make BioWare look bad, because Volourn said so! "The universe is a yawning chasm, filled with emptiness and the puerile meanderings of sentience..." - Ulyaoth "It is all that is left unsaid upon which tragedies are built." - Kreia "I thought this forum was for Speculation & Discussion, not Speculation & Calling People Trolls." - lord of flies
Nepenthe Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I remember many review that stated that the combat system in the consolle version was inferior and not developed as well as the PC version. I remember many complaints on Bio board too about that. I never played it on the consolle so I can't really say, but knowing that it was without iso view I really do not understand how it could play out (not that my position matters much, just to say). I played with both, and I can safely say that the console versions' combat controls were inferior. I think the Eurogamer reviews are pretty spot-on. I won't say they were 'bad', though, in fact it was a fairly solid implementation and I doubt it could have been done much better without cutting down on the amount of abilities and other options, but still clearly inferior to the PC one. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
HoonDing Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Some more gameplay Bloody Mess @ 0:02 The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Guest Slinky Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Eeeehh.. I hope all that darkspawn turning into bloody mess and the ogre dying with some strange blue light show is just that dwarf exaggerating.
sorophx Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 looks like a dumbed down version of Severance Walsingham said: I was struggling to understand ths until I noticed you are from Finland. And having been educated solely by mkreku in this respect I am convinced that Finland essentially IS the wh40k universe.
HoonDing Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I'm glad they fixed the robotic staring of characters during conversations. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI.
Nepenthe Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Also looks like the health bar will actually be visible in the console versions this time around. And that's from the PS3 version, so it might not be the borderline-playable frame skipping afterthought it was the last time. That said, the 'press x to swing sword' looks just as unpleasant as I was afraid it would. Hopefully my Mini won't choke on the game... You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Guest Slinky Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Hopefully my Mini won't choke on the game... If needed, just drop the gfx settings until the name of the game turns into Conan the Pixel Murders Gaiderland and looks like this: Loved that game BTW
Nepenthe Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Hopefully my Mini won't choke on the game... If needed, just drop the gfx settings until the name of the game turns into Conan the Pixel Murders Gaiderland and looks like this: ... All witticism aside, DAO and everything else I've tried has worked just fine. You're a cheery wee bugger, Nep. Have I ever said that? Reapercussions
Atom523 Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Alright i admit i haven't been keeping up with DA2 and perhaps this has been asked and answered so I apologize....but after watching that video one thing kept on nagging me....why does it seem to be a third person hack and slash game? Not that i dislike hack and slash games, i do enjoy them. But if I want Dynasty Warriors i will buy dynasty warriors. Not that I am writing off DA2, it might end up being great, but i did enjoy the combat from the first game.
Humanoid Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 It appears that the pronouncements of it being Dragon Effect were wildly exaggerated. Dragon Gauntlet would be a more apt tag. L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G
Tale Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Grey Warden needs food badly. "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Niten_Ryu Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I'm glad they fixed the robotic staring of characters during conversations. Damn that's freaky looking stare. Reminds me of late 90's 3d poser model amatour animations. Combat is now close to something like in God of War series so Bioware better prepare to take the heat if combat ain't as good in that game... or looking as good. Let's play Alpha Protocol My misadventures on youtube.
Junai Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 Hopefully my Mini won't choke on the game... If needed, just drop the gfx settings until the name of the game turns into Conan the Pixel Murders Gaiderland and looks like this: Loved that game BTW I never ever ever-- ever... ever.. killed that sorcerer at the end. The one with the fireballs. Ever. *sigh* J.
Guest Slinky Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I never ever ever-- ever... ever.. killed that sorcerer at the end. The one with the fireballs. Ever. *sigh* J. Neither did I, but I was having too much fun choppin off heads to let that bother me.
entrerix Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 wow, i've been preparing myself to enjoy this game, but the videos I keep seeing make it look just awful. I think I'm going to bury my head in the sand on this one and wait for the reviews to come out before I consider getting it. maybe they are going to make mass effect 3 into a 4x game just to really mess with people's heads. Killing is kind of like playin' a basketball game. I am there. and the other player is there. and it's just the two of us. and I put the other player's body in my van. and I am the winner. - Nice Pete.
Meshugger Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 It appears that the pronouncements of it being Dragon Effect were wildly exaggerated. Dragon Gauntlet would be a more apt tag. Or Dragon Siege for that matter. I thought that i saw grimdark version of DS3 for a moment. I would love to try some Dragon Gaiden though, that would be interesting. But ditch the mage-class then, just have warrior or rogue for some true barbarian carnage. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
Guest Slinky Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I felt like I was getting ADHD, epilepsy and a brain tumor just by waching that
meomao Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 (edited) Who is this 'you' you are speaking of as it surely isn't me since I said no such thing. Don't put words into my post. Sorry, I must apolgize. You never said such a thing. You only said that the game was received very well critically on both platforms. Wich is mostly true off course. But even in the most enthusiastic revievws (and I read a lot of them) there were a lot of mention on the disparity between PC and Consolle version for the combat part. The fact they made chanegs for DA2 means very little since they changed ME2 rom ME1 despite ME being successful. BIO probably changes thinsg up so they can hear less whining about 'making the same game repeatedly' (heh like that will happen) and instyead get told they're 'dumbing things down. Well, everyone is entitled to his opinions. I believe that if Bioware is changing combat so much is because they have received some negative feedback about it, were not pleased by its reception or simply do not like how it played out from a design point of view. Same for ME2. I don't think that it's because they listen to fan rants, otherwise they would still be a "PC/D&D centric" developer . Focus groups are funny. They're no more reliable to be trustworthy than internet geeks like us. Right or wrong, they fell that they are important to reach people who are not internet geeks and that normaly would not not express their opinion in forums. It's funny how people are saying how horrible DA is now considering the success it had including the mega praise it got everywhere including here with only the Codex bashing it but that's par for the course. Including the combat. I do agree. DA:O was mostly a very good game and deserved its success. But personally, I was not in love with DA:O's combat even if I enjoyed the game very much in general. I was not expecting them to go action and I would have prefereed something else, but who am I to discuss the design of their game? I will play it and make my mind about it. And, of course, BIO is gonna say the combat is improved. That's how they pimp it. They alreayd got our $ for DA1 now they need our $ for DA2 so no way are they gonna say yeah DAQ1 is betetr than DA2. No way no how. They're gonna tell you that DA2 does everything better than DA1 because that's how they will push it. Afterall, if BIO says DA is better than DA2 why would anyone wnat to buy DA2 when they can just playu DA1? Does not compute. Off, course (even if in Bioware forums they are more moderate about those changes, maybe just to avoid displeasing the old fans). But (imho) it's interesting to speculate on the reason why they have changed DA:O's formula so much. You know, while the VO change is obvious (again, like it or not) it's difficult to understand why they have changed the combat system so much if not taking consolle in consideration (imho, off course). Edited October 13, 2010 by meomao
Meshugger Posted October 13, 2010 Posted October 13, 2010 I felt like I was getting ADHD, epilepsy and a brain tumor just by waching that That's why it would be awesome. "Some men see things as they are and say why?""I dream things that never were and say why not?"- George Bernard Shaw"Hope in reality is the worst of all evils because it prolongs the torments of man."- Friedrich Nietzsche "The amount of energy necessary to refute bull**** is an order of magnitude bigger than to produce it." - Some guy
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