Gromnir Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Red Sonja wasn't dark fantasy (it was heroic fantasy, to be precise), but not very happy-go-lucky either, and Sonja was a female warrior. red sonja is... *shrug* the original character by Howard (Red Sonya of Rota-something-or-other) were a polish chick with guns and the setting for her story were real world ottoman empire at the height o' its power. 1 short story. No Conan and no swords for Sonya. am honest unfamiliar with the comic stuff. HA! Good Fun! "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I neither like the Witcher setting (too medieval), nor do I like the DA setting (too dull). So I really hope Obsidian comes up with something more imaginative for their new game. Though you haven't really experienced the setting of Dragon Age yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Though you haven't really experienced the setting of Dragon Age yet. I've seen enough from it to come to this conclusion. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volourn Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 "D:A world is supposed to have a dark, almost barbaric medieval feel (say Europe during the dark Middle Ages) yet there is no inequality between men & women." Eh? This is a silly argument. DA is NOT Ancient Medieval Europe. You cna have a 'dark' setting and not have it set in ancient europe. This is the same kind of losinga rgument about bashing the FR because it is 'loosely' based on Medieval Europe so some anal people mistake that for 'exactly like that time period'. It should also be noted that Dark. Medieval. Europe. did not have magic spells, dwarves, dragons, etc., etc. either. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 DA= Fantasy+ Dark and Edgy Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wrath of Dagon Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Not that excited about the setting either, but you can make a good game in any setting, the key is characters, writing, and quest design. "Moral indignation is a standard strategy for endowing the idiot with dignity." Marshall McLuhan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Though you haven't really experienced the setting of Dragon Age yet. I've seen enough from it to come to this conclusion. Fair enough. Before I started playing it I really knew nothing about the universe (since I had decided I was likely going to pick up the game, combined with the ridiculously long development time, I haven't been following it in the press at all), so it's pulled me in and I enjoy many unique aspects of the setting. The first thing I noticed about the game was that combat was pretty difficult. Until I had reacquainted myself with challenging combat, and worked out party composition and player/NPC progression it was not at all uncommon for me to die. I'm a lot more careful now, combined with a higher level and have returned mental mode of full party control to manage fights (especially some tougher ones) I am dying a bit less. And this is just on the default difficulty level too. I can see some people making some comparisons to Baldur's Gate, because it's probably the most difficult combat I've experienced in an RPG since probably Baldur's Gate (or maybe a different IE game like PS:T or IWD). There are still several fights though where if I expect to just get through them with auto attack and no thought (which I could do in a game like KOTOR), then I am dreaming. The challenge has been refreshing though. Of course I could be finding it difficult because recent RPGs have made me soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 (edited) ehm... when did Bioware lift NDA? Edited June 19, 2009 by Mamoulian War Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 ehm... when did Bioware lift NDA? alanschu has a special Bio-Licence to talk about the game. He is a psychological warfare operative for the sneaky Biowarians, his mission is to blast a hole in the carapace of cynicism that exists here about DA:O and the DaRK heRoiC FAntASy (etc). Greg and Ray sit up at night fretting that the Obz board regulars are unimpressed so far. Honest. Cheers MC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramza Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 It's dark and gritty, don't forget... and epic! roflmao "Ooo, squirrels, Boo! I know I saw them! Quick, throw nuts!" -Minsc "I am a well-known racist in the Realms! Elves? Dwarves? Ha! Kill'em all! Humans rule! -Me Volourn will never grow up, he's like the Black Peter Pan, here to tell you that it might be great to always be a child, but everybody around is gonna hate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 It's dark and gritty, don't forget... and epic! roflmao Although I suspect that it's going to be about as dark and gritty as an episode of Go Diego, Go! I suspect it might be quite epic, in a sort of er, big way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgoth Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 This will be the first Bio game I won't get on day one. There's something fishy about DA... Something tells me it's 5 years too late to arrive. Rain makes everything better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte Carlo Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 ^ Actually, I think you're right. I've been waiting for the gap DA was meant to fill for a long time... and maybe the gap closed while I wasn't paying attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhlaab Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 This will be the first Bio game I won't get on day one. There's something fishy about DA... Something tells me it's 5 years too late to arrive. It's not that the gameplay is outdated, I think it's incredibly silly to say things like the days of Fallout and Baldur's Gate are dead and gone forever because it's an arbitrary distinction. Like saying that a 2-D sidescroller could never EVER be made again. Sure it can. What I think the problem is is that they're trying to wrap this oldschool sensibility in a veil of "cool" like Dude, it's totally not nerdy to play a dungeons and dragons rpg. Well guess what bioware, yes it is. And your attempts to make your Elf Game look cool just appears even nerdier because of the misguided pandering and "14 year old Nine Inch Nails Fan" pastiche Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I didn't actually catch much of the E3 marketing. What was so bad about it? The only thing I saw was the dragon fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aristes Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I also get a bad vibe from Dragon Age. On the other hand, I tend to wait to purchase most games these days. There's a good chance that I'll pick up the title as long as I get some good word on it. I stopped buying NWN1 expansions a long time ago and I ended up passing over SoZ, even though I really enjoyed MotB. I dunno. I get the same vibe from DA, even though it's supposed to be different. Makes it a tough but not impossible sale for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 The big drawback of the game from my perspective (and part of why I wasn't following it too closely) is that it's been in development for so long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bhlaab Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I didn't actually catch much of the E3 marketing. What was so bad about it? The only thing I saw was the dragon fight. here it is: the new **** http://www.gametrailers.com/video/sex-dragon-age/49053 http://www.gametrailers.com/video/e3-09-dragon-age/50134 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Okay I'm familiar with the romance stuff. I'll take a look at the second video when I get home though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure79 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 Many well regarded fantasy novels have 'the evil reawakening' plot and I don't mind that at all as long as the personal story of the hero(s) is well written. I did find The Song of Ice and Fire novels really interesting because the evil reawakening plot was shown through bits and pieces, here and there, but mostly took a backseat to the political intrigue, betrayals, murders and battles. It also had great characters, with some I totally loathed earlier, but later I was silently rooting for. I really want something personal driving my PC forward and not just, 'oh, you're our most promising Grey Warden with this origin story, go out and save the world now from the reawakened evil.' One of the reasons I still love BG2 over all other Bio games is because the story is more personal. Its less about saving the world and more about getting something that was stolen from you back. I'm sure Bioware will deliver a great game, but I'm always hoping for more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I probably can't say too much about the story for more obvious reasons. I agree that a personal story works well because it illicits that emotional response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 'oh, you're our most promising Grey Warden with this origin story, go out and save the world now from the reawakened evil.' I'm starting to hate this in roleplaying games. Yeah sure, the main char saves the world, but in a genre where difference in skills is represented by levels, why do I have to be special? The other 130 allied soldiers in the game fight the same bad guys, they start on level 1 too, we're just luckier (dice rolls; tactical battles, not armies colliding; enemies with roughly the same level). Our char is special, so everyone else, no matter how elite and twice as strong as us dies for some stupid little reason, but ... ah, I trust I made my point. Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure79 Posted June 19, 2009 Share Posted June 19, 2009 I probably can't say too much about the story for more obvious reasons. I agree that a personal story works well because it illicits that emotional response. I don't mean to knock Bioware's stories. I always pretty much enjoy them, from KotOR to Jade Empire to Mass Effect. The only game I was really dissapointed in, storywise is NWN OC, which if I remember correctly also had some extinct evil race trying to make a comeback. All I'm saying is that Dragon Age seems to be heading down that reawakening evil story path, which is fine, but I'm hoping there is a strong personal story in there as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanschu Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I didn't think you were knocking the story haha. I have some thoughts on some of your comments, but should probably wait until after release to discuss them with you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azure79 Posted June 20, 2009 Share Posted June 20, 2009 I didn't think you were knocking the story haha. I have some thoughts on some of your comments, but should probably wait until after release to discuss them with you Sure thing. No doubt I'll come up with a list of little complaints on the game despite enjoying it immensely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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