Nick_i_am Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Jagged Alliance 2, Silent Storm and Xcom show how that kind of Combat should be done. Fallouts take on it was pretty crappy to my estimation. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Hurlshort Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 In RPG's I don't really need a great combat system. I need it to be serviceable at best, and hopefully easy enough to bypass or play on easy. I play RPG's for character development, atmosphere, and storytelling.
Sand Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 SS combat kicked major ass. I love the desrtuctable terrain aspects. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Slowtrain Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 In RPG's I don't really need a great combat system. I need it to be serviceable at best, and hopefully easy enough to bypass or play on easy. I play RPG's for character development, atmosphere, and storytelling. Exactly. WHich is why it is somewhat important to see the non combat aspects of FO3 before we can make judgements. I really want to see three or four consecutive dialogue screens from a main story quest conversation. The fact that we haven't seen anything yet like that is hardly helping Bethesda hype me on their product. CRPG combat doesn't have to be good because there are other things going on. So lets see those other things. Notice how I can belittle your beliefs without calling you names. It's a useful skill to have particularly where you aren't allowed to call people names. It's a mistake to get too drawn in/worked up. I mean it's not life or death, it's just two guys posting their thoughts on a message board. If it were personal or face to face all the usual restraints would be in place, and we would never have reached this place in the first place. Try to remember that.
Sand Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 That is why I am holding off final judgment on the game. If they make significant improvements over Oblivion then all might be good. Murphy's Law of Computer Gaming: The listed minimum specifications written on the box by the publisher are not the minimum specifications of the game set by the developer. @\NightandtheShape/@ - "Because you're a bizzare strange deranged human?" Walsingham- "Sand - always rushing around, stirring up apathy." Joseph Bulock - "Another headache, courtesy of Sand"
Volourn Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I base it on the fact that Bestheda sucks period, and the game play in the video looks *boring*. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
random n00b Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 Cool Volo, thanks for your input. You can go back to sleep now.
Pidesco Posted July 15, 2008 Posted July 15, 2008 I really want to see how Bethsoft will pull off actual dialogues. They've never ever done them, even in a competent fashion. "My hovercraft is full of eels!" - Hungarian tourist I am Dan Quayle of the Romans. I want to tattoo a map of the Netherlands on my nether lands. Heja Sverige!! Everyone should cuffawkle more. The wrench is your friend.
Dark_Raven Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I base it on the fact that Bestheda sucks period, and the game play in the video looks *boring*. That they do to a point. They don't suck as much as EA does. F3 just sucks period. Hades was the life of the party. RIP You'll be missed.
Volourn Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 They suck worse than EA. EA has made a lot of fun, and awesome games. Beth has made crap after crap with no good stuff. DWARVES IN PROJECT ETERNITY = VOLOURN HAS PLEDGED $250.
Jaesun Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 EA has made a lot of fun, and awesome games. Just like the awesome Ultima IX. Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Wow, Bethesda is getting negative attention. The PR team is soooo gonna get fired. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
Deadly_Nightshade Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 EA has made a lot of fun, and awesome games. Humm.... I cannot think of "a lot" of good EA games at the moment. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
WILL THE ALMIGHTY Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 EA has made a lot of fun, and awesome games. Humm.... I cannot think of "a lot" of good EA games at the moment. Nah they've made good games. Only problem is they wrecked a few franchises and studios along the way. "Alright, I've been thinking. When life gives you lemons, don't make lemonade - make life take the lemons back! Get mad! I don't want your damn lemons, what am I supposed to do with these? Demand to see life's manager. Make life rue the day it thought it could give Cave Johnson lemons. Do you know who I am? I'm the man who's gonna burn your house down! With the lemons. I'm going to to get my engineers to invent a combustible lemon that burns your house down!"
Deadly_Nightshade Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Also, Fallout 3 does not look as bad as I was fearing - I'll probably still pick a copy up unless they use a lot of DRM or I find out it's horrible. "Geez. It's like we lost some sort of bet and ended up saddled with a bunch of terrible new posters on this forum." -Hurlshot
Spider Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Also, Fallout 3 does not look as bad as I was fearing - I'll probably still pick a copy up unless they use a lot of DRM or I find out it's horrible. Considering Oblivion had virtually no DRM (a simple cd-check and that was it), it seems unlikely they'll all of a sudden go down that path.
Kissamies Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Like many others, I haven't seen anything to really convince me to one way or the other yet. SODOFF Steam group.
Atom523 Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 In case people haven't seen this, probably the best hands on preview of Fallout 3. Made by someone who seems to actually know what he is talking about. http://www.gamesradar.com/pc/fallout-3/pre...327151320531089 I wish this guy was in charge of demoing the game to people instead of Todd Howard
Xard Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I encountered the Family How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
Jaesun Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 I encountered the Family Some of my Youtube Classic Roland MT-32 Video Game Music videos | My Music | My Photography
Kelverin Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 "Did this taste live up to expectations? Absolutely - in fact, I J1 Visa Southern California Cleaning
Nick_i_am Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Yea. Remember all the vampires in Fallout 1 and 2? Oh wait... What's next, talking Raccoons? Or flowers. (Approved by Fio, so feel free to use it)
Tale Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 (edited) I encountered the Family Edited July 16, 2008 by Tale "Show me a man who "plays fair" and I'll show you a very talented cheater."
Xard Posted July 16, 2008 Posted July 16, 2008 Besides, FO2 had more retarted stuff in it How can it be a no ob build. It has PROVEN effective. I dare you to show your builds and I will tear you apart in an arugment about how these builds will won them. - OverPowered Godzilla (OPG)
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