The US Election, Part X

[Meshugger]

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796396412325871616

 

Theory why Clinton didn't win.

 

It also make me think that she is speaking about this forum   

 

Nah, they have already found a new target: https://archive.is/eQuzX

 

Dear Fellow White Women: We F**ked This Up

 

Exit polls show 53 percent of white women voted for Trump — compared to only 43 percent for Clinton.

 

Fellow white women, I’m done with you.

 

After all this talk of allyship, you didn’t show up to the polls to push back against the openly racist, xenophobic, misogynistic now-President-elect Donald Trump.

 

The exit polls from the Nov. 8 election show that 53 percent of white women voted for Donald Trump, compared to only 43 percent for Hillary Clinton. It appears many white women are not moved by Trump’s sexism, and instead would rather applaud the candidate for his lack of political correctness.

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

https://twitter.com/i/moments/796396412325871616

 

Theory why Clinton didn't win.

 

It also make me think that she is speaking about this forum   

It's such pathetic demonisation and conspiracy theory crafting that makes me laugh, when Brexit results were announced and now, the desperate need to blame voters who don't align with their own smug elitist positions is always absolutely hilarious. One wonders how such people deal with the real world where not everyone echoes their inane tweeting.

 

 

 

Well there are few bits of thruth in those tweets, for example that some people now must hide their political views for fear of being persecuted

 

 

An irrational fear of imaginary feminist bogeymen coming to take away your rights is not something I'd use the word "must" for.

[redneckdevil]

Yep, ahh the whole racist, sexist, bigotist accusations have been spewing forth like a huge broken sewer pipe...

 

I'll be honest, maybe .......JUST maybe it's that kinda attitude that has drove Trump to become president and why the senate AND house is full of republicans....

Just maybe

 

These type of people have no idea that they are in same group as racists, bigots, and such with their attitudes and hate.

[Fighter]

They are sure to win white people next time. Just need to smugly screech about "whiteness", etc, louder. That's the way to success.

[Drowsy Emperor]

Its not really wrong. There was strong social pressure to vote against Trump. I had Greeks, Swedes, Germans, Indonesians and all other sorts of people to whom the results of the elections are completely unimportant trying to convince me that Trump was the son of Satan and Hillary was the least bad choice. In the Netherlands, of all places.

 

In other words you had people parroting the main media line the world over even when they have no stake in it at all. That's how strong the whole media coverage was.

 

Therefore its surprising that in the US, where  everything is more extreme to begin with (and uhm, a relevant issue to begin with), a good portion of the voters kept their mouths shut for the polls, or even flat out lied and then went out and voted Trump.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Drowsy Emperor

[HoonDing]

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Its not really wrong. There was strong social pressure to vote against Trump.

 

Yupp, so strong he barely got any votes wait that's totally not what happened.

[Ben No.3]

That Right there made my day

[Pidesco]

What if I told you Trump under performed when compared to Romney, and it was Clinton that lost the election all by her lonesome.

 

 

[Wrath of Dagon]

Also, lol at the idea California would leave the US.  You don't just let the biggest agriculture provider in the country walk away.

Meh, as Ross Perot said, you don't have to own the cow to get the milk. And it would be cheaper to buy your produce in pesos once you rejoin Mexico.

[Drowsy Emperor]

 

Its not really wrong. There was strong social pressure to vote against Trump.

 

Yupp, so strong he barely got any votes wait that's totally not what happened.

 

 

Well, the pressure is only good for shaming in social groups and influencing weak willed people. But in the voting booth you're free to give them all the middle finger.

 

Which is what happened.

 

Its not illogical that there really was pressure and that it also backfired. Those can go hand in hand.

[Pidesco]

 

Also, lol at the idea California would leave the US.  You don't just let the biggest agriculture provider in the country walk away.

Meh, as Ross Perot said, you don't have to own the cow to get the milk. And it would be cheaper to buy your produce in pesos once you rejoin Mexico.

 

 

 

I thought you disliked globalization and wanted to get production and jobs back in America.

 

"Buy American" or whatever.

[Meshugger]

What if I told you Trump under performed when compared to Romney, and it was Clinton that lost the election all by her lonesome.

 

 

 

The couch-potatoes, the Homer Simpsons and those simply not caring are the true silent heroes of this election.

[Fighter]

Edited November 9, 2016 by Fighter

[Calax]

 

Also, lol at the idea California would leave the US.  You don't just let the biggest agriculture provider in the country walk away.

Meh, as Ross Perot said, you don't have to own the cow to get the milk. And it would be cheaper to buy your produce in pesos once you rejoin Mexico.

 

I'm sure you'd be happy for higher costs for Entertainment, Food, Air Travel and a grossly deflated GDP in the US once the 5th largest economy in the world went independant or joined another nation.

 

A part of me is wiling to bet that somethings gonna happen that'll get trump removed from office and/or he won't even be sworn in.

[Wrath of Dagon]

 

 

Also, lol at the idea California would leave the US.  You don't just let the biggest agriculture provider in the country walk away.

Meh, as Ross Perot said, you don't have to own the cow to get the milk. And it would be cheaper to buy your produce in pesos once you rejoin Mexico.

 

 

 

I thought you disliked globalization and wanted to get production and jobs back in America.

 

"Buy American" or whatever.

 

But I'd like to increase our exports. I'd like to export Californians.

[Hiro Protagonist]

I'd like to take this opportunity to remind people that a Chinese monkey turned out to be a more accurate predictive tool than almost every US poll.
 

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

Its not really wrong. There was strong social pressure to vote against Trump.

 

Yupp, so strong he barely got any votes wait that's totally not what happened.

 

 

Well, the pressure is only good for shaming in social groups and influencing weak willed people. But in the voting booth you're free to give them all the middle finger.

 

Which is what happened.

 

Its not illogical that there really was pressure and that it also backfired. Those can go hand in hand.

 

 

Sure, but Chilloutman probably wasn't talking about "your social circle thinks ill of you" levels of 'persecution', and I strongly question that anything beyond that exists outside of the heads of the paranoid.

[Gfted1]

Crazy that Clinton didn't even carry Wisconsin. They haven't voted Red since 1984. Not even the Simpsons saw that coming!

[Darkpriest]

Well technically you might get in trouble if in a round of affection you will call someone a dirty N- even if that person stole from you. Heck, you even have police officers being lynched by media even when they had right to act the way they did. - or that's the impression i get from some of the stories.

 

EDIT: anyone recall T-shirt drama and similar stuff?

Edited November 9, 2016 by Darkpriest

[Calax]

Crazy that Clinton didn't even carry Wisconsin. They haven't voted Red since 1984. Not even the Simpsons saw that coming!

From what I heard that could be attributed to Paul Ryan never actually pulling his endorsement (he's from there and quite popular)

 

Source, 538

[Namutree]

 

I don't know which one, that's why I phrased it as a question. False rumor or not, my point is it's only a matter of time before they find one on Donald "grab her by the ****" Trump that sticks. Bill Clinton got impeached over a blowjob, I expect Donald Trump's sexually assaulted enough women to get the same thing to happen.

 

I seriously doubt Trump has sexually assaulted anyone. Prepare for disappointment.

 

 

 

Also, lol @ people attributing this Obamacare. Republicans do everything they can to mangle Obamacare before it even gets off the ground and then platform about how mangled Obamacare is. Shovel **** into Republicans mouths and they chew dutifully. Whenever I think nobody's as dumb as US democrats (because only US democrats are dumb enough to think Hillary is a liberal), the republicans come in and prove me wrong.

Obamacare's problems have NOTHING to do with republicans. It's main issue is that young people don't want to pay higher insurance for old people with pre-existing conditions. Thus they don't pay for their insurance. This makes premiums go up which makes even more people refuse to pay it. That makes premiums go up. The process is repeated until no one is paying for it.

 

Republicans opposed it because it was fundamentally unsound and not a viable program. Obamacare's failing is 100% on the authors of the bill and the idiot democrats that voted for it. Many career politicians and especially leftists don't understand that when a demand is unreasonable; people won't cooperate, even if not cooperating is against their personal interest (which is why increasing the fine for not being covered won't work). Ironically, a lot of the people refusing to pay and dodging insurance are young Obama voters; see, coercive government programs are cool until it's your turn to be pushed around. The Dems were so busy shoving their new healthcare system down our throats they never really considered if it should be shoved down our throats (seriously, many of the dems had no idea how the new system worked).

 

Also, don't give me any BS bemoaning a lack of a "public option" either. If the bill would have included that, insurance companies would never have allowed it to pass. It was a doomed system and republicans were 100% correct to oppose it.

Edited November 9, 2016 by Namutree

[PK htiw klaw eriF]

What if I told you Trump under performed when compared to Romney, and it was Clinton that lost the election all by her lonesome.

 

 

Then I'd just spam Bernie and tell you it didn't have to be like this.

 

[Drowsy Emperor]

I wonder if Bernie secretly voted for Trump after being shafted so bad during the campaign. 

[Hiro Protagonist]

A new phenomenon has hit the country - The Triggering is in full swing.