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Combat looks clunky, but that's par for the course for PB.  I'm definitely interested, as I am in all PB games.

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I'd like that, if the gameplay supported it fully

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I'd like that, if the gameplay supported it fully

 

I dislike 1st-person view unless it's for an actual FP shooter.

 

For RPGs or action/adventure games, I prefer to actually see my character as they make their way through the environment.

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More shady dealings from the company that everyone loves to hate:

 

http://3wirel.lostsig.com/2016/08/06/the-long-story-of-prey-2s-development-the-darkside-of-bethesda/

 

Yikes.  It's pretty clear that the publisher arm of Bethesda (Zenimax) sucks.  

 

 

There had been bad stories about Zenimax already back in the days when Fallout 3 was in development (not Fo3 related, though). Though everyone said Fallout fans are but haters. :>

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There had been bad stories about Zenimax already back in the days when Fallout 3 was in development (not Fo3 related, though). Though everyone said Fallout fans are but haters. :>

I'm pretty sure Zenimax being crap and Fallout fans being haters are not mutually exclusive :-P
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So the link is down for me. A recap? :)

It pretty much says that Prey 2 developers were pushed down because Bethesda continuously tried to find reasons not to pay for development milestones. After a while, Zenimax would step in and offer to lend money to the developers, until "the situation has been worked out" and in the end they would try to buy the studio to get their hands on the full game and all following profits.

 

I'm pretty sure Zenimax being crap and Fallout fans being haters are not mutually exclusive :-P

Look at all these lies. :>

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What's Bethesda working on now?

As a developer or publisher? They're definitely working on another Elder Scrolls game somewhere behind the curtains, new and 'improved' Prey, new MP-focused Quake game which'll surely be catastrophic (I am only saying this because when I said it about Wolfenstein and Doom, they turned out excellent), Dishonored 2 and I'm pretty sure Machine games mentioned somewhere they're working on follow-up to Wolfenstein: The New Order. And Fallout 4 DLC I suppose?
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I think fo4 dlcs are all done. Also funny how all their games now are shooter and not at all related to RPGs. Lel. I mean, not that they necessarily only have to work on rpgs, but looking back the past, it seems fo5 won't even get branching dialogues. :>

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It seems to be a trend in the AAA games industry, not just Bethesda themselves, where almost all games are going toward the same convergence point of being action adventures with RPG-lite elements.  So you have traditional RPG studios dumbing down their RPG systems to make games more based on action (glares at Bethesda and BioWare) and other developers pushing RPG-style progression into genres like shooters and such that didn't traditionally have (or need) such elements.  On the one hand, I don't mind ideas from different genres crossing over as sometimes it makes for cool gameplay, but I don't like the trend of all games essentially becoming the same, only the setting differing.  This is why I play less and less AAA games and more and more indies, who still make focused games, which are now niche.

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It seems to be a trend in the AAA games industry, not just Bethesda themselves, where almost all games are going toward the same convergence point of being action adventures with RPG-lite elements.  So you have traditional RPG studios dumbing down their RPG systems to make games more based on action (glares at Bethesda and BioWare) and other developers pushing RPG-style progression into genres like shooters and such that didn't traditionally have (or need) such elements.  On the one hand, I don't mind ideas from different genres crossing over as sometimes it makes for cool gameplay, but I don't like the trend of all games essentially becoming the same, only the setting differing.  This is why I play less and less AAA games and more and more indies, who still make focused games, which are now niche.

I've been in the same boat as of late. I intentionally limit my AAA purchases to a couple/few games a year (if it's a good year). I bought DOOM, and will likely get Titanfall 2. However, I am interested in Deus Ex, but will likely wait till years end or the beginning of next year when I build my new rig. May as well wait for a sale at that point.

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It seems to be a trend in the AAA games industry, not just Bethesda themselves, where almost all games are going toward the same convergence point of being action adventures with RPG-lite elements. So you have traditional RPG studios dumbing down their RPG systems to make games more based on action (glares at Bethesda and BioWare) and other developers pushing RPG-style progression into genres like shooters and such that didn't traditionally have (or need) such elements. On the one hand, I don't mind ideas from different genres crossing over as sometimes it makes for cool gameplay, but I don't like the trend of all games essentially becoming the same, only the setting differing. This is why I play less and less AAA games and more and more indies, who still make focused games, which are now niche.

Same here. The only titles, which can be considered AAA, which I am buying nowadays are traditional JRPGs. But these games are becoming more and more niche titles with the passing of time as well.

 

I am not complaining, because I am still having fun with all the indies and japanese games, but more variability in AAA industry would hurt no one.

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I have currently two AAA games on my radar - XCOM and Deus Ex, but I will wait for complete version including all that cut content. Did XCOM already get some DLCs/Expansion?

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XCOM 2 has released all the DLC that is part of their "season pass", but that's not really saying much, it's not a lot of content. I mean I own it, but can't be bothered to start a new game just to play it because the fundamental gameplay experience would be unchanged. Across the 3 DLCs you get a grand total of two new scripted missions. *Two*. The rest of the content consists of the addition of mechs, the introduction of some special boss aliens, the obligatory new guns and stuff, and a bunch of purely cosmetic options for soldier customisation.

 

Besides that, there's been no announcement as of yet for any further content, whether DLC or fully-fledged expansion, though you'd imagine the latter is quite likely to happen at some point.

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That's a pretty embarrassing excuse for a "season pass". They're rarely worth it, but between that and the joke of the new Deus Ex's recently announced "season pass", it seems like they're getting even worse.

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So the link is down for me. A recap? :)

 

A mod asking for TL:DR? For shame.

 

Here you go: https://web.archive.org/web/20160810015843/http://3wirel.lostsig.com/2016/08/06/the-long-story-of-prey-2s-development-the-darkside-of-bethesda/

 

That version is lacking a later edit where the author added these tweets acknowledging the story:

 

https://twitter.com/NathanCheever/status/762691399896616960

https://twitter.com/NormNazaroff/status/762779556759605248

 

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Going to be a long wait for DX to get cheaper

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