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[BruceVC]

So mocking women  is enoguih to demomize you but you cna mock Asians according to Bruce b/c that's 'funny'?

 

 

Which is hialrious since Bruce is fine with  laughing at rape victims. The LOGIC.

 

 

Also, why is Bruce ignoring the story of the Clinton supporter who physically assaulted Sanders supporters? Why isn't he attacking Clinton and blaming her for his actions like he does with Trump and his supporters?  I know why. Do you know why? Does Bruce know why? I dunno but I know why.

Volo....I am shocked by what you suggesting, you CANNOT blame the candidate for the actions of his supporters 

 

You cant blame Hilary for that ...lets be reasonable here 

[BruceVC]

So mocking women  is enoguih to demomize you but you cna mock Asians according to Bruce b/c that's 'funny'?

 

 

Which is hialrious since Bruce is fine with  laughing at rape victims. The LOGIC.

 

 

Also, why is Bruce ignoring the story of the Clinton supporter who physically assaulted Sanders supporters? Why isn't he attacking Clinton and blaming her for his actions like he does with Trump and his supporters?  I know why. Do you know why? Does Bruce know why? I dunno but I know why.

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy 

 

Sorry, its  a personal view

[HoonDing]

"I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy"

 

Qistina was Malaysian, why did you drive her off?

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy 

 

 

Presumably it was the entirety of the Chinese people, acting in complete unison, who did this.

[Malcador]

Didn't we go over this once before, referring to the state not people.

 

Hm...eventually we may be able to have arguments by number or make Bash scripts to do this for us.

[BruceVC]

 

 

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy 

 

 

Presumably it was the entirety of the Chinese people, acting in complete unison, who did this.

 

No it was every single Chinese person...all 1 billion of them But on a serious note you cant separate how they do business in Africa 

 

They have a certain trade approach but its harmful and they lied to us 

[aluminiumtrioxid]

 

 

 

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy 

 

 

Presumably it was the entirety of the Chinese people, acting in complete unison, who did this.

 

No it was every single Chinese person...all 1 billion of them But on a serious note you cant separate how they do business in Africa 

 

They have a certain trade approach but its harmful and they lied to us 

 

 

My point is that this doesn't magically make racism "okay".

 

I mean, jesus Malc, use context.

Edited May 16, 2016 by aluminiumtrioxid

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

 

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy 

 

 

Presumably it was the entirety of the Chinese people, acting in complete unison, who did this.

 

No it was every single Chinese person...all 1 billion of them But on a serious note you cant separate how they do business in Africa 

 

They have a certain trade approach but its harmful and they lied to us 

 

 

My point is that this doesn't magically make racism "okay".

 

I mean, jesus Malc, use context.

 

No its different, racism is a prejudice that is not related to anything

 

I have seen how the Chinese operate and that put me off them, I appreciate the point you making but I dont think this is racism?

 

Also how much do you know about the Chinese....they do several things that are unacceptable to Western countries like 

 

 

 

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Dear friends,

 

For the Yulin dog meat festival, some dogs are stolen from their owners and beaten or bled to death. Then they’re hung upside down from hooks, a slit cut from their anus and skin ripped off their bodies, and sold to be eaten.

 

The suffering must be unbearable -- new research shows that in terms of emotion, dogs' brains are much like ours, something dog owners and lovers understand well. When we see dogs for what they are -- living beings with thoughts and feelings -- the torture they endure at this 'festival' becomes inexcusable.

 

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To Chinese President Mr. Xi Jinping, the Governor of Guangxi Province Mr. Chen Wu, and members of the Chinese Central Government:

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Yulin Dog Meat Festival 2016: New pictures emerge of 'nightmare' conditions for animals involved in Chinese event (The Independent)

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Chinese public urges government to crack down on dog meat industry (Channel NewsAsia)

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This Year, China Needs to End Its Horrific Dog Meat Festival (Observer)

http://observer.com/2016/04/this-year-china-needs-to-end-its-horrific-dog-meat-festival/

 

Animal Rights Activists Target China Dog Meat Festival (VOA)

http://www.voanews.com/content/animal-rights-activists-target-china-dog-meat-festival/3283551.html

 

Why the Brains of Dogs and Humans are More Similar Than You Think (Gizmodo)

http://io9.gizmodo.com/why-the-brains-of-dogs-and-humans-are-more-similar-than-1527707674

 

[Malcador]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy

 

Presumably it was the entirety of the Chinese people, acting in complete unison, who did this.

No it was every single Chinese person...all 1 billion of them But on a serious note you cant separate how they do business in Africa

 

They have a certain trade approach but its harmful and they lied to us

My point is that this doesn't magically make racism "okay".

 

I mean, jesus Malc, use context.

Hah, racism. Pretty clear to me he's not speaking of hating the yellow devils but, alright, heh.

[BruceVC]

 

 

 

 

 

I dont really like the Chinese, they lied to the South African government...manipulated people and seriously messed up our economy

Presumably it was the entirety of the Chinese people, acting in complete unison, who did this.

No it was every single Chinese person...all 1 billion of them But on a serious note you cant separate how they do business in Africa

 

They have a certain trade approach but its harmful and they lied to us

My point is that this doesn't magically make racism "okay".

 

I mean, jesus Malc, use context.

Hah, racism. Pretty clear to me he's not speaking of hating the yellow devils but, alright, heh.

 

Thats the thing, I dont think it was racist because I have extensive experience with there business practice

 

So making an informed decision shouldn't be seen as racist ?

[Gfted1]

Lets leave racism off the table for a second, it just poisons the conversation. Surly BVC you can mentally separate the difference between the actions of a state government and the day to day citizens?

 

That they eat a certain animal during a festival that we happen to domesticate is immaterial and just an affront to your personal tastes. Would you hate me if I told you that I'm pretty sure I ate monkey meat while on liberty in the Philippine's? It was delicious. Taste kinda like bbq pork.   

[Malcador]

Lets leave racism off the table for a second, it just poisons the conversation. Surly BVC you can mentally separate the difference between the actions of a state government and the day to day citizens?

 

That they eat a certain animal during a festival that we happen to domesticate is immaterial and just an affront to your personal tastes. Would you hate me if I told you that I'm pretty sure I ate monkey meat while on liberty in the Philippine's? It was delicious. Taste kinda like bbq pork.

I would. But I hate you for so many other reasons.

[BruceVC]

Lets leave racism off the table for a second, it just poisons the conversation. Surly BVC you can mentally separate the difference between the actions of a state government and the day to day citizens?

 

That they eat a certain animal during a festival that we happen to domesticate is immaterial and just an affront to your personal tastes. Would you hate me if I told you that I'm pretty sure I ate monkey meat while on liberty in the Philippine's? It was delicious. Taste kinda like bbq pork.   

Yes of course I can accept if I was in China the average Chinese citizen may not be like the Chinese who come to Africa

 

But I have seen them operate for years in  Africa, its always the same methodology and its always about one thing " they dont care about human rights. They will trade with any dictator and they legitimize certain African failed states ....so they allow some African dictators to remain in power at the expense of the black citizens of the actual country "

 

 

They actually harm the overall economic transformation of the continent ....so I'm not sure what I am suppose to like about them?> 

[Volourn]

Sorry Bruce but nice try. It is one thing to dislike someone because of their business practices but you seem to feel that makes it okay to dehumanize them and mock them for the way they speak. How is that not 'racist'? btw, I personally don'tind the occasional good spirited 'racial' joke (including against us whities) but your guffawing seems to come from racial hatred.

 

 

And, the fact you still get what I'm doing with the whole 'blame Hilary' thing is hilarious.

[BruceVC]

Sorry Bruce but nice try. It is one thing to dislike someone because of their business practices but you seem to feel that makes it okay to dehumanize them and mock them for the way they speak. How is that not 'racist'? btw, I personally don'tind the occasional good spirited 'racial' joke (including against us whities) but your guffawing seems to come from racial hatred.

 

 

And, the fact you still get what I'm doing with the whole 'blame Hilary' thing is hilarious.

Volo lets be honest...people throw the racist word around even when not appropriate 

 

I'm still  not convinced I'm wrong.....but if you  make a compelling point I will change my mind ?

[aluminiumtrioxid]

Hah, racism. Pretty clear to me he's not speaking of hating the yellow devils but, alright, heh.

 

 

 

"I can't be racist, I don't hate black people! In fact, I have many black friends!"

 

 

Lets leave racism off the table for a second, it just poisons the conversation. 

 

 

*cough* white fragility *cough*

[Guard Dog]

I had dog when I was in Korea. It wasn't intentional (and everyone else was laughing about it). But as far as the Yulin thing, a lot of animal rescue folks I associate with are up in arms about it but it doesn't rise high on my DGAF meter. My dogs will never be eaten. Nor will any I will ever have anything to do with. I can't stop anything the Chinese do anymore than they can stop anything I do. If signing a petition makes you feel better, knock yourself out. They will not care. Folks have been signing petitions for decades and the Japanese are still hunting whales and the Canadians are still hunting seals. 

[Gfted1]

*cough* white fragility *cough*

 

Of course.

[Volourn]

"I can't be racist, I don't hate black people! In fact, I have many black friends!"

 

I love this. Like the opposite is better. "I have no black friends so I must eb racist." I dunno but a racist wouldn't really hang out with people they despise right? RIGHT. Not a s amatter of coruse. The term racist is so diluted it loses all meaning. And, look at that. Another racist.. but, hey it cna't be racist because whites have 'all' the power... even in China. which is home to a huge % of the world's population it is all whitey power.

 

 

Bruce, if youd on't get why your comments towards Asians can be considered racist that is cute.

[ShadySands]

I've got black boots and a black belt...

 

Hell, I've even got a color TV

[BruceVC]

"I can't be racist, I don't hate black people! In fact, I have many black friends!"

 

I love this. Like the opposite is better. "I have no black friends so I must eb racist." I dunno but a racist wouldn't really hang out with people they despise right? RIGHT. Not a s amatter of coruse. The term racist is so diluted it loses all meaning. And, look at that. Another racist.. but, hey it cna't be racist because whites have 'all' the power... even in China. which is home to a huge % of the world's population it is all whitey power.

 

 

Bruce, if youd on't get why your comments towards Asians can be considered racist that is cute.

Volo I often agree with alum....normally his logic is reasonable so lets not dismiss his view

 

 

Volo can you give me your definition of racism? I dont think you understand what it means...sorry its just you throw the word around so indiscriminately 

[Malcador]

 

 

Hah, racism. Pretty clear to me he's not speaking of hating the yellow devils but, alright, heh.

 

 

"I can't be racist, I don't hate black people! In fact, I have many black friends!"

 

Lets leave racism off the table for a second, it just poisons the conversation.

 

*cough* white fragility *cough*

Did he say that in the post earlier? Given China's engagement in Africa recently I just took it as that in his post on trusting them.

 

Or not sure what the heck that is to mean to me, other than I posted the same earlier today, heh.

 

As for Gftd's advice, amusing but he is still correct.

[Volourn]

."sorry its just you throw the word around so indiscriminately"

 

*sigh* You still don't get it.

 

 

"Volo can you give me your definition of racism?"

 

Pre judging and/or hating someone based on their race.

 

 

"I dont think you understand what it means"

 

I udnerstand it better than SJW nazis who believe racism is 'white person saying anything negatie about non white person'. Or 'white perosn' for short. L0L;

Edited May 16, 2016 by Volourn

[BruceVC]

 

 

Hah, racism. Pretty clear to me he's not speaking of hating the yellow devils but, alright, heh.

 

"I can't be racist, I don't hate black people! In fact, I have many black friends!"

 

Lets leave racism off the table for a second, it just poisons the conversation.

 

*cough* white fragility *cough*

Did he say that in the post earlier? Given China's engagement in Africa recently I just took it as that in his post on trusting them.

 

Or not sure what the heck that is to mean to me, other than I posted the same earlier today, heh.

 

As for Gftd's advice, amusing but he is still correct.

 

You right and I have been polite about some of the more reprehensible practices they do 

[HoonDing]