Heijoushin Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 So, as the title says: Why do people watch/love "Let's play..." videos? Some of the guys at my work rave about them, and old PewDiePie keeps making the news for all his subscribers. Now, just to be clear, I'm not here to hate on anyone, so if you're a PewDiePie fan, that's cool but... I don't get it. If I have that kind of extra time, I'd rather play the game myself. Is it like... playing video games with a buddy? Like having someone next to you to discuss the game with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosbjerg Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 There's some research being done on this at my faculty actually - and they are leaning towards it creating a feeling of community in much the same way a forum does. Lets Plays are often singleplayer games and often hosted by popular/beautiful people, so in short; watching it makes you feel like you're part of a popular activity. Which most of us need to feel - in a way multiplayer games do very directly, so its simply a way to create a feeling of togetherness around an, in essence, lonely experience. Thats grossly simplifying it of course. 1 Fortune favors the bald. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heijoushin Posted February 23, 2016 Author Share Posted February 23, 2016 There's some research being done on this at my faculty actually - and they are leaning towards it creating a feeling of community in much the same way a forum does. Lets Plays are often singleplayer games and often hosted by popular/beautiful people, so in short; watching it makes you feel like you're part of a popular activity. Which most of us need to feel - in a way multiplayer games do very directly, so its simply a way to create a feeling of togetherness around an, in essence, lonely experience. Thats grossly simplifying it of course. Haha, my company has also asked me to look into it, so I would love to read your research;) That's more-or-less what I figured. A sense of doing your favorite activity with a beautiful/interesting "friend". And unlike multiplayer, its one-directional, so you can't flame each other;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Humanoid Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 It's just equivalent to watching TV, no? Just the delivery medium happens to be different. Incidentally, my TV antenna is loose and tends to turn itself the wrong way in a stiff breeze, so I haven't watched TV at all this year. I could fix it by climbing up and smacking the thing with a long broom, but I only really bother when there's something I really want to watch. L I E S T R O N GL I V E W R O N G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoonDing Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Not really into this, but I only watch when the player keeps his/her piehole shut. The ending of the words is ALMSIVI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 My personal experience: - Do people watch Let's Plays in their free time? I generally put them on when I'm doing something else. Sometimes I watch a Let's Play *while* I'm playing a game. - Compared to playing the game yourself: It's generally not about the game but about the performer. Let's Plays started getting popular with horror games originally, where you could laugh at other people getting their pants scared off and it just grew into people attempting entertaining commentary. - I watch Let's Plays mostly if the player has a different perspective (Jesse Cox gaming style is completely different to mine) or I find the player(s) funny (Game Grumps makes me laugh). - The most popular LPers fit Rosbjerg's description like Pewdiepie and Markiplier but they're outliers more than anything. Those guys are totally based on a sense of community (Pewds with his bro army and Mark constantly adressing you, the watcher like you're his personal friend) - but, as far as I can tell their fanbase exists mostly out of 13 year olds - I think it's safe to assume that's not who your colleagues are watching. Out of the Lets Players I watch, only about one or two even have a face cam and very few pander to the community. It's also not all single player, most of the stuff I watch is multiple people. - It's more entertaining than most stuff on TV. TV comedy seems to be almost entirely lost on me these days (other than Galavant, I can't think of a single comedy show that made me laugh in the past 3 months) but I can watch a 3 hour video of a bunch of Lets Players getting together and playing a board game through Board Game Simulator and I'll laugh until I cry. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chilloutman Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I think its supplement for a company really. When I was kid even when I played single player game there were usually some friends around and it was quite 'group play'. As we get older everyone have less and less time to do this gaming sessions so you supply it with someone else who is playing 'with you'. I often only watch lets plays of games I am currently playing or vice versa, I have bought few games that lets player is currently playing (mordheim, darkest dungeon) I'm the enemy, 'cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, and freedom of choice. I'm the kinda guy that likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecue ribs with the side-order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol! I wanna eat bacon, and butter, and buckets of cheese, okay?! I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section! I wanna run naked through the street, with green Jell-O all over my body, reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly may feel the need to, okay, pal? I've SEEN the future. Do you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sitting around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake, singing "I'm an Oscar Meyer Wiene" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malcador Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I do it to see the story of a game without playing it - either lack of interest or just not feeling like a replay. Can be somewhat handy to see how a game plays before buying, but is hit and miss as these streamers talk too much Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartimaeus Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 (edited) Basically what other people have said: *who* you're watching play is more about the player than the game. However, watching people you like play games can also give you a feel for those very games, and may make you interested in playing them yourself. People had been raving about Undertale for a while, and I look at it on Steam and just...wasn't very interested at all. Saw a relatively short video from someone I like who played like 20 minutes of it, and thought "that seems pretty cool", and made me get it and try it out. In a way, they're also an informal way of reviewing the game, and certainly at least complement the normal review process...as they're a perfect example of the "show, don't tell" ideal. The trick, then, is finding players who don't annoy the crap out of you... I don't generally watch entire Let's Plays of games, though, personally - I prefer just seeing relatively short "slices" of a game. Edited February 23, 2016 by Bartimaeus Quote How I have existed fills me with horror. For I have failed in everything - spelling, arithmetic, riding, tennis, golf; dancing, singing, acting; wife, mistress, whore, friend. Even cooking. And I do not excuse myself with the usual escape of 'not trying'. I tried with all my heart. In my dreams, I am not crippled. In my dreams, I dance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I generally only watch longform Let's Plays if I find the player funny. I couldn't care less about Mario Maker but seeing the Game Grumps make stupid jokes has gotten me through some 60 episodes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Like with any medium, there's no one size fits all answer. Different people watch Let's Plays for different reasons. For me, personally, there are 3 reasons I generally watch Let's Plays (sometimes the reasons overlap): I am interested, but undecided, in a game and I watch some Let's Plays as research to help me decide whether this is a game I want to purchase for myself. In this case, I'll usually only watch the first video or two of each LP, especially if it's a story driven game, so as to not spoil it for myself. It's a game I'm interested in but it's on a platform I don't own and the prospects of it ever coming to a platform I own are slim. This way, I still get to experience a game, to a lesser degree, that I would not have been able to experience otherwise. For example: I'll probably never get to play Until Dawn because I don't own a PS4 and have no plans on getting one, but this way I can still experience the story. It's a game I'm not interested in playing. I'm mainly watching because I like the YouTuber and I find his/her personality entertaining. For example: I watch Jesse Cox's Dragon Age: Inquisition LP. I would never consider putting myself through the dozens and dozens of hours of picking elfroot and doing MMO-esque quests that are that game, but Jesse's personality makes watching him go through it entertaining for me. 1 RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Haha, Jesse plays games so differently to me. His OCD run of Dragon Age is hilarious, but I also enjoy how half his Witcher 3 videos are him playing Gwent. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mamoulian War Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Me personaly watching LPs mostly as an edutainment. When I want to learn more in depth mechanics of the game. I spent countless hours watching people play various Paradox Grand Strategies and Hearthstone. The saddest thing is, that starring at map how the figures move slowly and the maps changes colors is most of the time more entertaining, than what is shown in our TV stations... even without commentary.. Sometimes I just like to watch speedruns of games, which I've already beaten. But yes, the one of the biggest reasons to watch it, is the feel of socializing, especially if the person you watch has similar personality, like you do. Lot of people like me grew here visiting netcaffes and LANcaffes where one person played and 2-10 people watched them to play and we talked about it, helped each other to evercome obstacles. It was fun, and I am really missing that stuffm that's why I have lately moved back to tabletop gaming again as well. Sent from my Stone Tablet, using Chisel-a-Talk 2000BC. My youtube channel: MamoulianFH Latest Let's Play Tales of Arise (completed) Latest Bossfight Compilation Dark Souls Remastered - New Game (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 1: Austria Grand Campaign (completed) Let's Play/AAR Europa Universalis 2: Xhosa Grand Campaign (completed) My PS Platinums and 100% - 29 games so far (my PSN profile) 1) God of War III - PS3 - 24+ hours 2) Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 130+ hours 3) White Knight Chronicles International Edition - PS3 - 525+ hours 4) Hyperdimension Neptunia - PS3 - 80+ hours 5) Final Fantasy XIII-2 - PS3 - 200+ hours 6) Tales of Xillia - PS3 - 135+ hours 7) Hyperdimension Neptunia mk2 - PS3 - 152+ hours 8.) Grand Turismo 6 - PS3 - 81+ hours (including Senna Master DLC) 9) Demon's Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 10) Tales of Graces f - PS3 - 337+ hours 11) Star Ocean: The Last Hope International - PS3 - 750+ hours 12) Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII - PS3 - 127+ hours 13) Soulcalibur V - PS3 - 73+ hours 14) Gran Turismo 5 - PS3 - 600+ hours 15) Tales of Xillia 2 - PS3 - 302+ hours 16) Mortal Kombat XL - PS4 - 95+ hours 17) Project CARS Game of the Year Edition - PS4 - 120+ hours 18) Dark Souls - PS3 - 197+ hours 19) Hyperdimension Neptunia Victory - PS3 - 238+ hours 20) Final Fantasy Type-0 - PS4 - 58+ hours 21) Journey - PS4 - 9+ hours 22) Dark Souls II - PS3 - 210+ hours 23) Fairy Fencer F - PS3 - 215+ hours 24) Megadimension Neptunia VII - PS4 - 160 hours 25) Super Neptunia RPG - PS4 - 44+ hours 26) Journey - PS3 - 22+ hours 27) Final Fantasy XV - PS4 - 263+ hours (including all DLCs) 28) Tales of Arise - PS4 - 111+ hours 29) Dark Souls: Remastered - PS4 - 121+ hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyrock Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Haha, Jesse plays games so differently to me. His OCD run of Dragon Age is hilarious, but I also enjoy how half his Witcher 3 videos are him playing Gwent. Yeah, his OCD DA:I run is is quite entertaining. The internal struggle you get to experience as you see him look on a map, see the insane amount of markers he has yet to visit in that area, you could almost audibly hear his heart sink. But then you know he won't be able to just tunnel vision and do the main stuff only, he's going to go to every marker, do every meaningless quest, and pick up every bag of useless loot out there, because he can't help himself. It also helps that Jesse is very good at reading out loud, which probably comes from being a teacher before becoming a YouTuber. I haven't watched his The Witcher 3 or Firewatch LPs because those are both games I plan to play eventually (TW3 when it comes to Linux, assuming it still will at some point, and Firewatch when the price drops, as I don't want to pay $20 for a 3 hour game). RFK Jr 2024 "Any organization created out of fear must create fear to survive." - Bill Hicks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_dog_days Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 Like with any medium, there's no one size fits all answer. Different people watch Let's Plays for different reasons. For me, personally, there are 3 reasons I generally watch Let's Plays (sometimes the reasons overlap): I am interested, but undecided, in a game and I watch some Let's Plays as research to help me decide whether this is a game I want to purchase for myself. In this case, I'll usually only watch the first video or two of each LP, especially if it's a story driven game, so as to not spoil it for myself. This. I don't often watch more than a few episodes of a Let's Play because I'm usually looking for a game to buy and I don't want any huge spoilers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigranes Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 There's some research being done on this at my faculty actually - and they are leaning towards it creating a feeling of community in much the same way a forum does. Lets Plays are often singleplayer games and often hosted by popular/beautiful people, so in short; watching it makes you feel like you're part of a popular activity. Which most of us need to feel - in a way multiplayer games do very directly, so its simply a way to create a feeling of togetherness around an, in essence, lonely experience. Thats grossly simplifying it of course. It's rude and ignorant to poop on somebody else's research without knowing all the details, so I won't do that, but it's always difficult to figure these kinds of things out. Sometimes research of this kind ends up getting a Disney finding despite best practices because (1) there's a self-selecting bias on the type of people who agree to be, say, interviewed about video LPs, i.e. they are pretty passionate; (2) there's a self-rationalising process going on when people talk about what they do which can sometimes be very different from what they were motivated by when they really did it. This isn't to say the community aspect is wrong, I'm sure it plays a role, but I'd be curious to know to what extent these videos sometimes are treated like television by couch-youtube-surfers and how LPs that focus almost entirely on the game and not the presenter works. I don't watch video LPs because 99% of presenters are either nauseous annoying HAR HAR goblins, but I enjoy text/image LPs because they're avenues for telling stories that really are independent. Paradox forum LPs being a good example - they're basically a form of historical fan fiction with the game serving as a visual simulator. Let's Play: Icewind Dale Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Icewind Dale II Ironman (Complete) Let's Play: Divinity II (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG1 (Complete) Let's Play: Baldur's Gate Trilogy Ironman - BG2 (In Progress) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undecaf Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I don't watch video LPs because 99% of presenters are either nauseous annoying HAR HAR goblins Ditto. Tried a few some time ago, but couldn't keep listening to it past a couple videos. There were a few without the presenters narration that seemed more watchable, though. Perkele, tiädäksää tuanoini!"It's easier to tolerate idiots if you do not consider them as stupid people, but exceptionally gifted monkeys." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majestic Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I don't watch video LPs because 99% of presenters are either nauseous annoying HAR HAR goblins, but I enjoy text/image LPs because they're avenues for telling stories that really are independent. Paradox forum LPs being a good example - they're basically a form of historical fan fiction with the game serving as a visual simulator. Well, but there is a different term for using a game (engine) to tell a story: Machinima. I wouldn't count those as Let's Plays videos in the same way speedruns, reviews or dedicated video guides aren't. Or YouTube news coverage or commentary on games (I can heartly recommend "When Cheese Fails" for everyone who played a bit of Starcraft 2). Near as I can tell the HAR HAR goblin presentation is the core aspect of video LPs, which is why I don't like them, and most likely never will. No mind to think. No will to break. No voice to cry suffering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blarghagh Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I enjoy text/image LPs because they're avenues for telling stories that really are independent. Speaking of which! *points at your signature* 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hurlshort Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I'm surprised by how popular they are, but my kids seem to love to watch some of them. I think it is generational. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oner Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I only watch a few of them, but generally I enjoy the commentary/different point of view of the player(s). And the ability to see a game in action I don't have the chance to play or I'm not sure is a good investment yet. 1 Giveaway list: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DgyQFpOJvyNASt8A12ipyV_iwpLXg_yltGG5mffvSwo/edit?usp=sharing What is glass but tortured sand?Never forget! '12.01.13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gromnir Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I'm surprised by how popular they are, but my kids seem to love to watch some of them. I think it is generational. we would rather french kiss a light socket than watch some yutz play a video game. ... have somebody who looked like stephanie seymour circa the 1990 sports illustrated swimsuit issue host the "let's play" and we might be momentarily curious... 'cause Gromnir IS a guy. however, once ms. seymour's lookalike actual started playing the game in question, am certain we couldn't maintain interest for long. HA! Good Fun! 1 "If there be time to expose through discussion the falsehood and fallacies, to avert the evil by the processes of education, the remedy to be applied is more speech, not enforced silence."Justice Louis Brandeis, Concurring, Whitney v. California, 274 U.S. 357 (1927) "Im indifferent to almost any murder as long as it doesn't affect me or mine."--Gfted1 (September 30, 2019) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyseal Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I play only over my girlfriend's hous. Having a job and a side job it's hard to find the time for gaming. In evening I'm so tired I can't concentrate on a game. I watch a video instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leferd Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 I'm surprised by how popular they are, but my kids seem to love to watch some of them. I think it is generational. we would rather french kiss a light socket than watch some yutz play a video game. ... have somebody who looked like stephanie seymour circa the 1990 sports illustrated swimsuit issue host the "let's play" and we might be momentarily curious... 'cause Gromnir IS a guy. however, once ms. seymour's lookalike actual started playing the game in question, am certain we couldn't maintain interest for long. HA! Good Fun! Queuing the Stephanie Seymour Life Partner Simulator Let's Play: 1 "Things are funny...are comedic, because they mix the real with the absurd." - Buzz Aldrin."P-O-T-A-T-O-E" - Dan Quayle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkpriest Posted February 23, 2016 Share Posted February 23, 2016 For me it comprise several factors: 1) it is the game i am interested in 2) it is something that I can learn from and adapt to my gameplay 3) the quality of video is good 4) there is some added entertainment value, which hits my sense of humor/entertainment (for example Beaglerush and his XCOM videos) 5) I am to tired to play myself at that time or have time constrains which would affect my personal play. (hey you can watch it on your phone!) I prefer more live experience, for example twitch streams than watching youtube vids. Streams are a different beast, because i like watching esports streams (Dota2 is my main fix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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