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Hi All

 

We know in many respects the USA can be a country of excess and ostentatiousness. But I have never seen anything like this restaurant before and I just saw a documentary on this place on one of CNN medical shows. I would like to get others opinions

 

http://www.heartattackgrill.com/

 

Okay this place is a legitimate restaurant in Vegas but they unashamedly promote high calorie and very unhealthy food that can lead to a heart attack, hence the name. In fact the last 2 spokesmen for the restaurant have died from heart attacks. There have been several customers who have also had heart attacks in the restaurant

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartHealth/blair-river-hefty-heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies/story?id=13056400

 

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/11/heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-heart-attack/

 

The last  spokesmen died  2 weeks ago, he ate there every day. The restaurant has a policy that if you are over a certain weight you eat for free, you need to be 25 stones/ 160 KG to qualify for this "great deal"

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328863/Heart-Attack-Grill-Free-food-customers-weigh-25st.html

 

I watched an interview on CNN with the owner Jon Basso and he didn't seem that concerned, his argument was basically we don't force people to eat the good and we admit its all bad for you.

 

I am not parochial in any respects but where do we draw the line? This place actually rewards people for there obesity and encourages the epidemic of unhealthy eating. It glorifies the fact that a bad diet can lead to a heart attack. There one burger has 10000 Calories !!! I believe in a free market and don't support nanny  states but I feel there is something fundamentally wrong with openly glamorizing peoples addictions in a way that is perfectly legal? Where is the moral and ethical boundary for a place like this. I see this place as worse than smoking adverts because they are quite happy to joke about how harmful there food is. Am I being over sensitive?

 

Finally the only good thing I can say about the place is that there are some really hot ladies who work there dressed as nurses that serve the food. But this is just part of the image they create that you are in a hospital

 

I find the behavior and marketing of this restaurant chain as reprehensible and have to ask " in our modern age is there place for establishments like this" ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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Honestly? I find it tasteless. Not the food, but the deliberate targeting and profiting of peoples misery. Ranks up there with payday loans. Other peoples mileage may vary, just my 0.25$

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Who's to say what should be banned and what shouldn't? And where does personal responsibilty come in? Should we ban everything that might cause harm to people because of their stupidity? It's a gimmick. And where does it end? Should we ban McDonalds, KFC, etc? Because most of their food isn't exactly healthy.

 

Australia has many such food outlets where you have food challenges to see if you can get through a certain amount of food. eg Killa Burgers with a hamburger that's a foot wide and is served in a cake box - as that's the only box that will fit the burger in. http://www.killaburgergrill.com/ If I was visiting America, I'd stop by the Heart Attack Grill and try one of their burgers.

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Yeah it's pretty depraved. Especially the part about offering free unhealthy meals to people already at risk. That's going beyond simply staging an event which would be a one off for tourists, ei, not actually trying to kill them with bad diet.

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Who's to say what should be banned and what shouldn't? And where does personal responsibilty come in? Should we ban everything that might cause harm to people because of their stupidity? It's a gimmick. And where does it end? Should we ban McDonalds, KFC, etc? Because most of their food isn't exactly healthy.

That's one way of looking at things but when we talk about personal responsibility why should average tax-payer have to cover medical expenses associated with obesity? If we consider being overweight a personal choice made by individual rather than a eating disorder that needs curing then such expense should be covered by the people deciding to be obese.
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Honestly? I find it tasteless. Not the food, but the deliberate targeting and profiting of peoples misery. Ranks up there with payday loans. Other peoples mileage may vary, just my 0.25$

 

 

Who's to say what should be banned and what shouldn't? And where does personal responsibilty come in? Should we ban everything that might cause harm to people because of their stupidity? It's a gimmick. And where does it end? Should we ban McDonalds, KFC, etc? Because most of their food isn't exactly healthy.

 

Australia has many such food outlets where you have food challenges to see if you can get through a certain amount of food. eg Killa Burgers with a hamburger that's a foot wide and is served in a cake box - as that's the only box that will fit the burger in. http://www.killaburgergrill.com/ If I was visiting America, I'd stop by the Heart Attack Grill and try one of their burgers.

 

Really? Australia has many places that admit there food  can kill you , admit that there food will absolutely cause heart issues you and if you are over a certain weight you eat for free. I find that hard to believe. Please provide the links as I did for verification

Yeah it's pretty depraved. Especially the part about offering free unhealthy meals to people already at risk. That's going beyond simply staging an event which would be a one off for tourists, ei, not actually trying to kill them with bad diet.

 

Yes this is one of my major issues with the establishment. I like the way you have worded it, "it goes beyond staging an event"

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

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You guys obviously haven't been to Vegas much. I used to live there, and still go to visit. Vegas is marketed as a land of excess in general. It's a tourist Mecca. Tourists often want a little excess no matter where they are. And Vegas is a great place to vacation in the eyes of a great many, even many who don't gamble as there is a lot to do there other than gambling.

 

Those burgers are small compared to others I've seen, and eaten. And no, I'm not a fat guy.

 

Very large portions are a common thing at many restaurants in Vegas. Be they burgers, slices of cakes, a Margarita, a bowl of rice pudding, or most anything else one could eat or drink. And if you know where to go these portions don't cost much either. Many people who eat them (or rather in most cases attempt to eat them) are either tourists for the novelty of it, or do a nifty thing called taking some of it home for later in a To Go container. Or even more commonly, split the giant portion with a friend or loved one.

 

Vegas is also the land of the all you can eat buffet. They are everywhere. And some of them are of extremely good quality. Something you'll find almost no where else.

 

The marketing is a tongue in cheek joke. It capitalizes on a relatively commonly used tongue in cheek joke when referring to a really good meal that involves something from a deep fryer or a grill (something that some folks would tell you will kill you or shorten your life if you consume them). The phrase goes something like this: 'Ok! Who wants a heart attack!?!?' , and is something occasionally said by whomever might be serving up what many would consider a very tasty meal. And a common reply is 'Hell yea... I want one of those!', because it usually means a great cut of meat and/or high quality something from the frier (usually french fries). Then the burger and fries or something of the like is served up. Person eats, enjoys, and the vast vast vast majority of the time, like any other meal, they then go on about their business. They don't drop dead of a heart attack...

 

There's nothing tasteless about what the restaurant does. It's good marketing. And having worked for years in the restaurant business as well as traveled extensively and eaten at hundreds of restaurants, I'd wager a bunch they have much better than average burgers and fries. That's certainly what they're advertising.

 

Places in Vegas have various hooks to get people in their doors. You need to realize that almost every single establishment in Vegas is at least a mini casino. Giving away free food or drinks is very common to get people in your doors where they'll play their games. The money lost giving away the products at a loss is generally more than made up for in profits from the gambling.

 

People should be able to eat what they want. Eating just about anything in excess is of course a bad thing, however that choice should be left to whomever is doing the eating. That anyone would think to deny someone that basic human right smacks of evil and/or totalitarianism (Hi Mayor Bloomburg!).

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You guys obviously haven't been to Vegas much. I used to live there, and still go to visit. Vegas is marketed as a land of excess in general. It's a tourist Mecca. Tourists often want a little excess no matter where they are. And Vegas is a great place to vacation in the eyes of a great many, even many who don't gamble as there is a lot to do there other than gambling.

 

Those burgers are small compared to others I've seen, and eaten. And no, I'm not a fat guy.

 

Very large portions are a common thing at many restaurants in Vegas. Be they burgers, slices of cakes, a Margarita, a bowl of rice pudding, or most anything else one could eat. And if you know where to go these portions don't cost much either. Many people who eat them (or rather in most cases attempt to eat them) are either tourists for the novelty of it, or do a nifty thing called taking some of it home for later in a To Go container. Or even more commonly, split the giant portion with a friend or loved one.

 

Vegas is also the land of the all you can eat buffet.

 

The marketing is a tongue in cheek joke. It capitalizes on a relatively commonly used tongue in cheek joke when referring to a really good meal that involves something from a deep fryer or a grill (something that some folks would tell you will kill you or shorten your life if you consume them). The phrase goes something like this: 'Ok! Who wants a heart attack!?!?' , and is something occasionally said by whomever might be serving up what many would consider a very tasty meal. And a common reply is 'Hell yea... I want one of those!' Then the burger and fries or something of the like is served up. Person eats, enjoys, and the vast vast vast majority of the time, like any other meal, they then go on about their business. They don't drop dead of a heart attack...

 

There's nothing tasteless about what the restaurant does. I'd say it's good marketing.

 

Places in Vegas have various hooks to get people in their doors. You need to realize that almost every single establishment in Vegas is at least a mini casino. Giving away free food or drinks is very common to get people in your doors where they'll play their games. The money lost giving away the products at a loss is generally more than made up for in profits from the gambling.

 

People should be able to eat what they want. Eating just about anything in excess is of course a bad thing, however that choice should be left to whomever is doing the eating. That anyone would think to deny someone that basic human right smacks of evil and/or totalitarianism (Hi Mayor Bloomburg!).

 

Interesting post, actually l go to Vegas every year for a Technical symposium so I am well aware of the nature of the place. I love Vegas and this issue I have is not about Vegas as a city or a hedonistic destination 

 

This is also not about large portions or even unhealthy food. We are all aware that junk food is bad for you.

 

This is about a restaurant that unapologetically brands itself as a place that causes heart disease and the last 2 spokesman for the restaurant have died of heart attacks.  This is about a restaurant that gives you free food if you are horribly obese. Explain to me the good marketing in there strategy or the tongue cheek result to there decisions? These are facts.

 

I'll give you an analogy. Imagine Heroine was legal, it is in some countries. You open a Heroine shop with a big neon sign that says "Buy Heroine, Get High and Die"

 

Yes its "catchy and funny". And legally the shop can advertise this but you are going to draw people into the shop that are addicts and cannot help themselves. Some people will be compelled to visit. When people start dying do you think you share some moral responsibility for there deaths? You should.....

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

Posted

What happens in Vegas, should stay in Vegas.

 

It did, until everyone had a camera in their cellphone.... :shifty:

"Cuius testiculos habeas, habeas cardia et cerebellum."

Posted (edited)

I agree with the principle of what you guys are saying, but on the other hand I now have a killer craving for cheese burgers and wish that we had something similar in the area. They may be unhealthy but they look delicious.

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Ah, outrage.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

Posted

Like many things in Vegas, this seems like a fun place to visit once.  People who eat there every day are exercising terrible judgement.  It's not like the place is trying to conceal how unhealthy it is for you.  I just would rather see people taking more personal responsibility for their health than attempting any legal junction on a business.  

 

Feeding the morbidly obese for free is a bit of a tough one, that might be going too far.  

Posted

Where is the moral and ethical boundary for a place like this.

 

Where is the moral or ethical problem? They're not selling illegal items nor are they forcing you to patronize their establishment.

 

I see this place as worse than smoking adverts because they are quite happy to joke about how harmful there food is. Am I being over sensitive?

 

I think you are. The problem with smoking has always been (at least in the sense of curtailing where people can smoke) in the claims of second-hand smoke - in other words the problem of your right to imbibe in carcinogens vs the rights of others to not be forced to imbibe in carcinogens by the simple fact that you and they are in the same place. There can't be any health risk here to anyone who isn't assuming the risk themselves by patronizing the establishment (and arguably their embracing the unhealthy-ness of their food does the same as a health warning on a pack of smokes). IMO

I cannot - yet I must. How do you calculate that? At what point on the graph do "must" and "cannot" meet? Yet I must - but I cannot! ~ Ro-Man

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Yeah, I'm a huge anti-smoking advocate, so it might sound odd that I wouldn't condemn this restaurant.  But the smell of french fries isn't quite the same as the smell of cigarettes.

 

On a personal level I'm anti-fast food, but I'd rather see these places change because their customer base is becoming more educated and health conscious than any forced legislation.

Posted

I'm all for an ocassional fatty and nutritionally unwise treat now and again, not so fond of the extra miles I have to run the dogs to work it off, but what is life without base pleasures.

Quite an experience to live in misery isn't it? That's what it is to be married with children.

I've seen things you people can't even imagine. Pearly Kings glittering on the Elephant and Castle, Morris Men dancing 'til the last light of midsummer. I watched Druid fires burning in the ruins of Stonehenge, and Yorkshiremen gurning for prizes. All these things will be lost in time, like alopecia on a skinhead. Time for tiffin.

 

Tea for the teapot!

Posted

You get a pack of cigarettes if you order a bigger burger?! How awesome isn't that?!  :w00t: 

 

Screw you "ethical and moral"-people, your concern for health is as sincere as the seller's.

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Posted

Like many things in Vegas, this seems like a fun place to visit once.

 Yeah, yeah Hurlshot I'm onto you my friend. You just thinking how great its going to be to see those hot ladies in there nurses outfits when you visit Vegas on your hockey tour. Its okay Hurlshot, you are amongst friends. You can be honest :fdevil:

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

Posted (edited)

Interesting

post, actually l go to Vegas every year for a Technical symposium so I

am well aware of the nature of the place. I love Vegas and this issue I

have is not about Vegas as a city or a hedonistic destination 

 

This is also not about large portions or even unhealthy food. We are all aware that junk food is bad for you.

 

This is about a restaurant that unapologetically brands itself as a place

that causes heart disease and the last 2 spokesman for the restaurant

have died of heart attacks.  This is about a restaurant that gives you

free food if you are horribly obese. Explain to me the good marketing in

there strategy or the tongue cheek result to there decisions? These are

facts.

 

I'll give you an analogy. Imagine Heroine was

legal, it is in some countries. You open a Heroine shop with a big neon

sign that says "Buy Heroine, Get High and Die"

 

Yes its "catchy and funny". And legally the shop can advertise this but you are

going to draw people into the shop that are addicts and cannot help

themselves. Some people will be compelled to visit. When people start

dying do you think you share some moral responsibility for there deaths?

You should.....

 

 

The use of Heroin or the abuse of another Opiate based drug is not akin to

eating a hamburger. Selling something to someone that has close to zero

health benefits in most people who is only looking to get high is not

the same as selling someone some food (that does have health benefits)

that may not be the healthiest thing for them to eat.

 

That said. I'm all for legalizing said drug and most others. Prohibition is

not the answer to the problem, and creates far more problems itself. But that is somewhat another subject.

 

And that said, I do think people who profit off of other people's misery

are at best, disgusting individuals. However, barring the relatively few

instances where someone is coerced or forced to take a drug, drink more

than they wanted to, or even eat something unhealthy they wouldn't

normally eat, the onus is 100% on the individual who sought out and

consumed whatever it is we're talking about.

 

The spokesmen who died of heart disease (if that's what they indeed died of)

were dying of heart disease long before they were ever the spokesmen of

the restaurant we're talking about. Having a really fat person

advertise your restaurant for you isn't exactly bad marketing. It's

implied that they liked the food so much they eat a real lot of it. For

some this reinforces the idea that the food might be good. While I

wouldn't be swayed by it I can tell you after working with dozens for

chefs in all manners of restaurants, with no exception in my personal

experience (though I'm sure there's a few exceptions out there

somewhere), all of the best chefs had more than a little meat on their

bones. 

 

Also, there's no relatively common amongst

the populace tongue in cheek joke that heroin will get you high and

kill you, as there is that a great burger and fries is a heart attack

meal. The marketing is based on that joke. The potential

marketing you describe for heroin would not be.

 

 

 

I'm all for an ocassional fatty and nutritionally unwise treat now and again, not so fond of the extra miles I have to run the dogs to work it off, but what is life without base pleasures.

 

Indeed. I haven't had a good burger in ages, and now I want one after this thread. I may go find Five Guys later today (the best burger around where I currently am, but no where near as good as what you can find in Vegas).

 

Exercise is really the key. You can eat a real lot of greasy food like burgers and fries if you get the exercise to burn that fat off. Fat is actually very good for you as long as you make use of it. Of course, if that's all you eat you're going to be in trouble in the long run. But that is true of just about everything. Variety is not only the spice of life, in meals it's key to living healthier along with exercise.

 

 

 

My apologies for the formatting. Apparently multi-quoting now squashes text on this forum.

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Posted

 

Interesting

post, actually l go to Vegas every year for a Technical symposium so I

am well aware of the nature of the place. I love Vegas and this issue I

have is not about Vegas as a city or a hedonistic destination 

 

This is also not about large portions or even unhealthy food. We are all aware that junk food is bad for you.

 

This is about a restaurant that unapologetically brands itself as a place

that causes heart disease and the last 2 spokesman for the restaurant

have died of heart attacks.  This is about a restaurant that gives you

free food if you are horribly obese. Explain to me the good marketing in

there strategy or the tongue cheek result to there decisions? These are

facts.

 

I'll give you an analogy. Imagine Heroine was

legal, it is in some countries. You open a Heroine shop with a big neon

sign that says "Buy Heroine, Get High and Die"

 

Yes its "catchy and funny". And legally the shop can advertise this but you are

going to draw people into the shop that are addicts and cannot help

themselves. Some people will be compelled to visit. When people start

dying do you think you share some moral responsibility for there deaths?

You should.....

 

 

The use of Heroin or the abuse of another Opiate based drug is not akin to

eating a hamburger. Selling something to someone that has close to zero

health benefits in most people who is only looking to get high is not

the same as selling someone some food (that does have health benefits)

that may not be the healthiest thing for them to eat.

 

That said. I'm all for legalizing said drug and most others. Prohibition is

not the answer to the problem, and creates far more problems itself. But that is somewhat another subject.

 

And that said, I do think people who profit off of other people's misery

are at best, disgusting individuals. However, barring the relatively few

instances where someone is coerced or forced to take a drug, drink more

than they wanted to, or even eat something unhealthy they wouldn't

normally eat, the onus is 100% on the individual who sought out and

consumed whatever it is we're talking about.

 

The spokesmen who died of heart disease (if that's what they indeed died of)

were dying of heart disease long before they were ever the spokesmen of

the restaurant we're talking about. Having a really fat person

advertise your restaurant for you isn't exactly bad marketing. It's

implied that they liked the food so much they eat a real lot of it. For

some this reinforces the idea that the food might be good. While I

wouldn't be swayed by it I can tell you after working with dozens for

chefs in all manners of restaurants, with no exception in my personal

experience (though I'm sure there's a few exceptions out there

somewhere), all of the best chefs had more than a little meat on their

bones. 

 

Also, there's no relatively common amongst

the populace tongue in cheek joke that heroin will get you high and

kill you, as there is that a great burger and fries is a heart attack

meal like there. The marketing is based on that joke. The potential

marketing you describe for heroin would not be.

 

 

 

>I'm all for an ocassional fatty and nutritionally unwise treat now and again, not so fond of the extra miles I have to run the dogs to work it off, but what is life without base pleasures.

 

Indeed. I haven't had a good burger in ages, and now I want one after this thread. I may go find Five Guys later today (the best burger around where I currently am, but no where near as good as what you can find in Vegas).

 

Exercise is really the key. You can eat a real lot of greasy food like burgers and fries if you get the exercise to burn that fat off. Fat is actually very good for you as long as you make use of it. Of course, if that's all you eat you're going to be in trouble in the long run. But that is true of just about everything. Variety is not only the spice of life, in meals it's key to living healthier along with exercise.

 

 

 

My apologies for the formatting. Apparently multi-quoting now squashes text on this forum.

 

 

I appreciate your detailed response, I don't agree but thats fine. We all have our opinions on this matter and how this restaurant chooses to market itself and promote there food. End of the day the owner Jon Basso will have a lot to answer to when he  leaves this world. For me he  is one of  the worst types of people, he is enriching himself on the vices and addictions  of others and the effect to there health is irrelevant to him. He has turned this crisis of obesity into something that can be packaged and legally sold and he jokes about it. It is truly depraved, but its his life and unfortunately he will continue to encourage certain people to lead both a harmful and unhealthy lifestyle :banghead:

"Abashed the devil stood and felt how awful goodness is and saw Virtue in her shape how lovely: and pined his loss”

John Milton 

"We don't stop playing because we grow old; we grow old because we stop playing.” -  George Bernard Shaw

"What counts in life is not the mere fact that we have lived. It is what difference we have made to the lives of others that will determine the significance of the life we lead" - Nelson Mandela

 

 

Posted

I believe Jon Basso himself is a pretty big guy, so I'm guessing he has bought into his own line on the obesity epidemic, which is to make light of it.  I have a few overweight friends who really just seem to be completely accepting of their excesses.  It's a bizarre thing, I hate the way I feel when I go more than a couple weeks without a good workout or when I eat a few unhealthy meals strung together.   

Posted (edited)

Hi All

 

We know in many respects the USA can be a country of excess and ostentatiousness. But I have never seen anything like this restaurant before and I just saw a documentary on this place on one of CNN medical shows. I would like to get others opinions

 

http://www.heartattackgrill.com/

 

Okay this place is a legitimate restaurant in Vegas but they unashamedly promote high calorie and very unhealthy food that can lead to a heart attack, hence the name. In fact the last 2 spokesmen for the restaurant have died from heart attacks. There have been several customers who have also had heart attacks in the restaurant

 

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/HeartHealth/blair-river-hefty-heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies/story?id=13056400

 

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2013/feb/11/heart-attack-grill-spokesman-dies-heart-attack/

 

The last  spokesmen died  2 weeks ago, he ate there every day. The restaurant has a policy that if you are over a certain weight you eat for free, you need to be 25 stones/ 160 KG to qualify for this "great deal"

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1328863/Heart-Attack-Grill-Free-food-customers-weigh-25st.html

 

I watched an interview on CNN with the owner Jon Basso and he didn't seem that concerned, his argument was basically we don't force people to eat the good and we admit its all bad for you.

 

I am not parochial in any respects but where do we draw the line? This place actually rewards people for there obesity and encourages the epidemic of unhealthy eating. It glorifies the fact that a bad diet can lead to a heart attack. There one burger has 10000 Calories !!! I believe in a free market and don't support nanny  states but I feel there is something fundamentally wrong with openly glamorizing peoples addictions in a way that is perfectly legal? Where is the moral and ethical boundary for a place like this. I see this place as worse than smoking adverts because they are quite happy to joke about how harmful there food is. Am I being over sensitive?

 

Finally the only good thing I can say about the place is that there are some really hot ladies who work there dressed as nurses that serve the food. But this is just part of the image they create that you are in a hospital

 

I find the behavior and marketing of this restaurant chain as reprehensible and have to ask " in our modern age is there place for establishments like this" ?

Well, rather than having emergency rooms foot the bill for emergency coronary bypasses for the people who choose to eat such nauseating dishes, we should let them make the choice to become a walking conduit of cholesterol, forgo any form of medical treatment for any problems that arise (it's not like smoking, aside from unpleasant odors they're not harming anyone else,) and give a boost to the XXXXL casket industry. American manufacturing jobs!

 

Even though there's a part of me that supports government bans on forms of stupidity that cost the public money, i.e. Michael Bloomberg's crackdown on diabeetus-causing sugar-water (it's the government that foots the bill for emergency room patients who can't afford to pay, part of the need for healthcare reform that certain parties willfully overlook because such reforms would hamper the health insurance industry's ability to shaft customers in a non-medical way, despite the fact that, in the end, healthcare reform would reduce government spending, and until a Republican takes the white house again, it's the deficit and government spending that matters most,) if people are stupid enough to eat these things regularly they're probably not a boon to the public good in the first place. It's not like the line cooks and waiters/tresses employed by these joints are paid a fair/living wage to begin with.

I believe Jon Basso himself is a pretty big guy, so I'm guessing he has bought into his own line on the obesity epidemic, which is to make light of it.  I have a few overweight friends who really just seem to be completely accepting of their excesses.  It's a bizarre thing, I hate the way I feel when I go more than a couple weeks without a good workout or when I eat a few unhealthy meals strung together.

Which is part of the problem, of course. I never ate that sort of garbage even when overweight, but these people are a whole different class of apathetic (remember what Kreia said!) lumps. There is an addiction aspect, and sort of a cycle of low self-esteem feeding that apathetic attitude toward self-image and health, but after dropping below the 200lb mark, things like a Big Mac are absolutely disgusting to me where they weren't before. It's like they exude a miasma of fatty grease, like a morbidly obese guy who hasn't showered in a week. Edited by AGX-17
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You get a pack of cigarettes if you order a bigger burger?! How awesome isn't that?!  :w00t: 

 

Screw you "ethical and moral"-people, your concern for health is as sincere as the seller's.

Nah, they care. It's their tax money being wasted to treat the scum that eat this food, after all.

Why has elegance found so little following? Elegance has the disadvantage that hard work is needed to achieve it and a good education to appreciate it. - Edsger Wybe Dijkstra

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If you think Komrad Bloomburg's ban on soft drinks over a certain size is a good thing. Please please, move to an appropriate communist nation, where you'll fit in much nicer than a place where freedom is supposed to be had. It'll work out better for you, and for the people who actually want to live free to not have to bother to argue with you, or one day fight the likes of you in a civil war if too many of you keep getting your way.

 

The government of a free people has zero business legislating , let alone dictating (which is the case with Bloomburg and his crusade against soda) what or how much someone can drink or eat. And again, the insanity of such a dictation is that it is assumed that one person consumes the entire drink. You now can't get a 2 litre with your pizza delivery in New York. Most pizzas are not consumed by one person, nor are most two litres of soda, at least not in one sitting. Nevermind that there are other things still perfectly legal that are worse for you to consume (and they should be 1000000% legal) in large or even small quantities. Nevermind the precedents set with Bloomburg's evil dictations that will likely see worse things to come if it's not overturned soonish.

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